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Title: Peter Lorenz / Kamei (Karl Meier) VW Beetle Coupe conversion, 1948/49
Post by: grobmotorix on January 21, 2017, 05:04:52 AM
Who did this unique coupé conversion to this very early Beetle?
Title: Re: grob 2017.12.21 (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on February 03, 2017, 11:33:22 AM
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Title: Re: grob 2017.12.21 (04)
Post by: Fёdor on February 05, 2017, 01:10:05 AM

Hebmüller
Title: Re: grob 2017.12.21 (04)
Post by: tobytwirl on February 05, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
 I have a similar photo but my lack of German language is somewhat limiting in translating that plate on the car's front.  I think the car was built for a client called Peter Lorenz, by a company owned by Heinrich Schwen, who employed Karl Meier - who actually designed and built it.
Title: Re: grob 2017.12.21 (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on February 05, 2017, 02:10:33 PM
Very, very good...

Your point!
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: tobytwirl on February 05, 2017, 02:26:40 PM
Danke!
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: Wendax on February 05, 2017, 04:18:03 PM
A nice addition to those two widened Volkswagen Karl Meier built after he took over the remnants of Schwen's company after its bancruptcy:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2016-45/wendax-1931/
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2016-45/neh-4770/
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: Wendax on May 12, 2020, 10:28:02 AM
Front view:
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: grobmotorix on May 13, 2020, 04:37:13 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: Wendax on March 26, 2021, 01:05:23 PM
According to the plate on the bumper this car was designed and built by Friedrich Peter Lorenz from Sandkamp (near Wolfsburg in 1948, nowadays part of it). Karl Meier is mentioned as being responsible for the interior. I can't find Heinrich Schwen's name on the plate. Do you have any proof of his involvement besides the car's similarity to his widened VWs and his connection to Karl Meier?
And I wonder whether the designer was the same Friedrich Peter Lorenz (born 1922) that designed the Lorenz & Rankl Silver Falcon 36 years later. According to his CV Lorenz built Kübelwagen-based race cars shortly after the Second World War.
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: grobmotorix on March 27, 2021, 05:07:15 AM
To be honest I did not really read the big plate on the front bumper thoroughly.

My puzzle photo was published in a book and the text reads like that:
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: Wendax on March 27, 2021, 06:10:12 AM
I came to think about it while reading the Durchgeboxt book which is full of mistakes so that I work myself through it in deep scepticism. There the car is called Sandkamp Coupé built by Peter Lorenz Sandkamp. As I wrote before I think it was designed by Friedrich Peter Lorenz from Sandkamp. Beetle historian Rüdiger Etzold says that Lorenz got the money for the car by selling some real estate.
Title: Re: VW Beetle Coupe conversion by Karosserie Schwen, 1948/49
Post by: grobmotorix on March 27, 2021, 03:15:14 PM
Agreed - I think I should change the initial text.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Peter Lorenz / Kamei (Karl Meier) VW Beetle Coupe conversion, 1948/49
Post by: Wendax on September 07, 2021, 03:47:15 AM
Another picture:
Title: Re: Peter Lorenz / Kamei (Karl Meier) VW Beetle Coupe conversion, 1948/49
Post by: grobmotorix on September 07, 2021, 12:48:50 PM
odd...