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Title: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2012, 03:20:10 AM
SOLVED
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: Allemano on November 11, 2012, 08:51:22 AM
 :o :thumbsup:
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 28, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
Let´s see what our experts know about this...
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: FrontMan on November 29, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Hispano by Million-Guiet?....can't prove a thing at present, but what a fine looking machine.  A good 30 metres to the front must have been in a blind spot!         
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 29, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
QuoteA good 30 metres to the front must have been in a blind spot! 

:D
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: D-type on November 29, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
It couldn't race with a number so loosely attached, could it be an entry in a concours d'elegance?

Edit:  Just noticed that the retoucher appears to have made a deliberate mistake continuing the wing (fender) line downwards in front of the front wheel.  Why?
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on November 29, 2012, 05:11:41 PM
Quotecould it be an entry in a concours d'elegance?

I think that´s right.

Regarding the front fender line: I´m not sure if the whole front bumper has been added by the retoucher afterwords...
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: frederick59 on December 05, 2012, 09:37:28 PM
with such a design i guess it could be a Voisin
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 06, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
Well - I can feel the spirit of Voisin in this car, too.

But I do miss the significant cooler mascot:
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: frederick59 on December 06, 2012, 05:03:40 AM
i gather it's from France by the look of the spectators,maybe in the parc de Bagatelle in Paris?
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 06, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
Monaco GP as said in the text...
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: frederick59 on December 07, 2012, 04:06:38 PM
Isotta Fraschini by Saoutchik
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 08, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Is this just a guess or can you PM me a link or something as proof?
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: frederick59 on December 09, 2012, 07:29:59 PM
no just a guess as i searched for Bugatti Royale and fell on Bucciali and after searching.............. ;)
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: RayTheRat on December 10, 2012, 12:44:44 PM
1930 Ballot?
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 10, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
Well, I can´t tell...

I think it is time to move this up.
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: RayTheRat on December 14, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
I stumbled across the (possible) original (b/w monochrome) image and all the caption says is "Monaco Grand Prix Contest, Monte Carlo, 1933."
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Post by: grobmotorix on December 15, 2012, 07:14:35 PM
Yes, that´s all I also knew...
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 08, 2013, 01:48:55 PM
To the black hole...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 07, 2017, 02:51:53 AM
XXV Concours d'elegance in Montecarlo.
Albert Martin's 1-prize winning Delage (Category L: Aerodynamic coachworks)
Title: Re: grob november 2012 mystery (04)
Post by: Arunas on December 07, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 07, 2017, 02:51:53 AM
XXV Concours d'elegance in Montecarlo.
Albert Martin's 1-prize winning Delage (Category I: coupe and coupe-limousine)

:hyper: :applause: :applause: :applause: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco of Albert Martin / which coachbuilder?
Post by: grobmotorix on December 07, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Super!
Two points for you!

Now it would be percfect to find out the coachbuilding company...
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco of Albert Martin / which coachbuilder?
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 08, 2017, 05:01:11 AM
Albert Martin designed it.
In a 7-page article, there are all the results of that Concours. Owners, cars and Coachbuilders.
"An original aerodynamic coachwork designed by Albert Martin on a Delage chassis"
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco of Albert Martin / which coachbuilder?
Post by: grobmotorix on December 08, 2017, 05:02:27 AM
Perfect  :)
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: grobmotorix on January 06, 2018, 06:14:11 PM
I do not know my self, of course,
but now I found a photo of a Million Guiet bodied Hispano Suiza, which looks quite similar.

Just my guess - what do the others think - could they have built it for Mr. Albert Martin?
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: pnegyesi on January 07, 2018, 12:19:59 AM
I can only tell you this: in 1938 (or 1937 doesn't matter) there was a Concours d'Elegance in Budapest, Hungary which was won by a Mr Höke and his Alfa Romeo. In Hungary all reports said that Mr Höke built the body. It is only now that the truth came to light: Mr Höke comissioned Worblaufen to build the body for him.
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: grobmotorix on January 07, 2018, 03:50:32 AM
That´s what I also think - I gueuss some renowned coachbuilding company has built this bodywork.
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 20, 2018, 03:53:26 AM
One source reports this car once belonged to M. and Mme Peraldi and it was Renè Thomas's car. It also claims it is from 1926, but it can't be.
Title: Re: Delage 1933 Concours D`Elegance Monaco by Albert Martin
Post by: SACO on December 19, 2019, 04:36:30 AM
New pics of the car !