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Title: Solved NIC#704 - 1937 Batten Special
Post by: nicanary on November 03, 2016, 07:27:29 AM
Marque and engine, please.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: FrontMan on December 31, 2016, 01:40:43 PM
Lancia Augusta with Ford bits?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on December 31, 2016, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on December 31, 2016, 01:40:43 PM
Lancia Augusta with Ford bits?

I wouldn't be surprised if the radiator shell came from a Lancia, because it looks very much like one. However that's not the marque. There is a Ford connection though.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on January 02, 2017, 05:52:18 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on January 28, 2017, 05:33:18 AM
Pros?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
Ford engine ?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on January 28, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 28, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
Ford engine ?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2017, 04:10:51 PM
Is the manufacturer known for other cars ?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on January 28, 2017, 04:33:09 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 28, 2017, 04:10:51 PM
Is the manufacturer known for other cars ?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Wendax on January 28, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
Leidart 10 hp?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on January 28, 2017, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
Leidart 10 hp?

Not a Leidart, but the engine size is about right.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: oko94 on February 02, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
Was the manufacturer active only before WWII ?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 02, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: oko94 on February 02, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
Was the manufacturer active only before WWII ?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: oko94 on February 02, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
Was the manufacturer active only during the thirties ?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Fёdor on February 03, 2017, 03:52:34 AM
 Lanchester 10
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2017, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: oko94 on February 02, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
Was the manufacturer active only during the thirties ?

Yes.

Nothing to do with Lanchester.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: oko94 on February 03, 2017, 05:10:55 AM
Was the manufacturer active more than 5 years ?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2017, 05:18:28 AM
Quote from: oko94 on February 03, 2017, 05:10:55 AM
Was the manufacturer active more than 5 years ?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 04:21:28 AM
A known British name, like Vale?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 05:52:07 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 04:21:28 AM
A known British name, like Vale?

Quite a well-known name at the time, but only for a few years. This puzzle car is not like others they built.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Djetset on February 05, 2017, 09:05:46 AM
Atalanta?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 09:07:01 AM
Quote from: Djetset on February 05, 2017, 09:05:46 AM
Atalanta?

Very close, but no coconut.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
Not Squire, right?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 09:42:07 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
Not Squire, right?

Not a Squire.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Fёdor on February 05, 2017, 10:02:01 AM

Barclay
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on February 05, 2017, 10:02:01 AM

Barclay



No.

PS I mentioned in an earlier post that the engine could be around 10hp - I have rechecked my source and the engine size is not quoted. Sorry if this did not help your investigation, but it was definitely Ford-powered.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: luisps on February 05, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
Leidart?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: luisps on February 05, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
Leidart?

No - we've already had that question.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Wendax on February 05, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Vale?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 05, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Vale?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Batten?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: Wendax on February 05, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
Squire?
Title: Re: NIC#704
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2017, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Batten?

YES! Not a Squire, because it's a Batten Special. This photo was taken from an advert in a well-known magazine from 1955 and is therefore not readily available on the internet. It doesn't look anything like other Battens I've seen, but  a) I reckon a small maker like Batten would have built cars to order and this could have been a one-off commission and b) I see no reason why a garage would have not known what car they were selling!

The wording of the advert - " BATTEN SPECIAL - specially built for enthusiast in 1937 from Ford components. Terrific performance -value!!!!! £125.

When I first saw the car I thought it looked a bit too small for one of the V8 powered Battens and considered maybe it was 1172cc powered, but the ad does mention performance. Presumably the original owner wanted a drophead rather than a competition car.

Solved eventually.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#704 - 1937 Batten Special
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 12:27:42 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Solved NIC#704 - 1937 Batten Special
Post by: Allan L on February 05, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
How on earth d'you get that, PJ?!
As said it's not like any other Batten one knows of and it looks to me as if they used a d.h.c. body from (say) an early '30s Lanchester on the Ford V8 chassis (wheels look like big Ford).
Title: Re: Solved NIC#704 - 1937 Batten Special
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2017, 02:12:34 PM
I used my index: I sorted all the names I have according to the hints I had.
The names were not few, (Andrè, Atalanta, Barson, Vale, Harker,  Lammas-Graham, Leidart, Squire, Salmon etc.).
After a rough selection, there were still 70 names.
I tried to narrow them down looking at what they did (3-wheelers, coachbuilt cars, specials, and so on) and many names were out.
When I had less names, I started again from the beginning and Batten was the 1st of the possible ones.

Title: Re: Solved NIC#704 - 1937 Batten Special
Post by: Wendax on February 05, 2017, 04:12:17 PM
Even without doing SQLs on data bases, just by going through the good old Culshaw / Horrobin book, Batten would have been my next guess.  8)