Marque and maker, please.
Experts?
Pringett Mistrale ?
Quote from: Willie McCrum on February 21, 2017, 08:11:26 AM
Pringett Mistrale ?
Similar colour scheme, but that's about it. Not a Mistrale.
Obviously losing wahtever touch I had.....If it isn't a Royale RP3, I have another suggestion - but little confidence !
Quote from: Willie McCrum on February 21, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Obviously losing wahtever touch I had.....If it isn't a Royale RP3, I have another suggestion - but little confidence !
Not a Royale, but ask as many questions as you like. It's like that stuff you throw at the wall - some of it might stick.
My initial thought was that this is an early fomula ford but some google searching suggests the engine looks wrong. Is there any Formula Ford in it?
I'd have guessed at an early Formula Ford 2000, but not my period so can't continue, even if I'm right!
Not Formula Ford, nor Formula Ford 2000. Nothing to do with Ford whatsoever.
Formula France ??
I note, somewhat belatedly, that the exhaust is on the 'wrong' side for a F.Ford in any case.
I do recall Formula Talbot from the dim and distant, but can't remember what side their exhaust systems were on.
Their chassis were nearly all Spartons too, if memory serves.
Quote from: Willie McCrum on February 23, 2017, 06:34:38 PM
I note, somewhat belatedly, that the exhaust is on the 'wrong' side for a F.Ford in any case.
I do recall Formula Talbot from the dim and distant, but can't remember what side their exhaust systems were on.
Their chassis were nearly all Spartons too, if memory serves.
Nothing to do with Formula Talbot, although there is a distant connection to that marque.
Looks like a cross-flow cylinder head. A Simca 1000 unit perhaps?
Quote from: richard cuyler on March 24, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
Looks like a cross-flow cylinder head. A Simca 1000 unit perhaps?
Not a Simca engine.
Let's start again. Is it French?
Quote from: D-type on March 24, 2017, 03:50:02 PM
Let's start again. Is it French?
It was not built in France, but part of it is French.
French engine, so Peugeot?
Built in the UK?
Australian built?
Could this possibly be a Rennmax ?
Quote from: Willie McCrum on April 03, 2017, 03:19:46 AM
Could this possibly be a Rennmax ?
Nothing like as common as that.
Pros?
Is it displayed in a museum ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 05, 2017, 09:10:37 AM
Is it displayed in a museum ?
No. The photo was taken when the car was for sale.
Peugeot 204 engine ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 06, 2017, 05:34:40 AM
Peugeot 204 engine ?
Not a 204, but earlier. I don't know for sure, but probably from a 203.
Was the car for sale in Australia ?
Was it sold at an auction ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 05:36:57 AM
Was it sold at an auction ?
No. For sale at a fixed price but offers considered.
Was the car built between 1960 and 1965 ?
1963 ?
Lynx ?
Did it compete in Australian Formula 2 ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
Did it compete in Australian Formula 2 ?
I believe it was built originally for Formula Junior, but took part in Formula 3 races.
Jolus ?
Koala ?
Sasin ?
Cadjar ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 08, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Cadjar ?
No.
(It's going to take you a long time! There were a lot of homebuilt F3 cars in Australia during the 1960s. A clue - this one was named after the initials of the builder.)
DSM by Dave Sullivan ?
Peugeot 203 engine was 1290 cc. Was its displacement decreased to less than 1100 cc ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 04:17:23 AM
Peugeot 203 engine was 1290 cc. Was its displacement decreased to less than 1100 cc ?
Sorry oko94, I don't know any more. I have just rechecked my source and there is no reference to the engine size. I also think I may have been wrong about the car taking part in FJ and F3 events. It is more likely that it raced in single-seater events against cars with much bigger engines so possibly the engine was not reduced in size in order to qualify for the F3 category.
My apologies for providing misleading information.
(Here's another photo of the car taken in period, which shows the type of race it entered. Apparently this race was for Group O & M cars, which is new to me!)
Monaco HS by Richard Hilyear and Derek Smith ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 05:07:59 AM
Monaco HS by Richard Hilyear and Derek Smith ?
Not that.
I have found out that Groups M & O are designations by the HSRCA for historic racing cars for the period 1961-1969. Obviously this is not the title for the category in period.
TAD ?
Has this Peugeot special competed in a Group O & M race after 2010 ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 07:02:32 AM
Has this Peugeot special competed in a Group O & M race after 2010 ?
It was definitely being raced in 2008, but I don't know about later dates.
I have found out that the engine was from a 1958 Peugeot 403 - 1468cc. So I was wrong about FJ and F3 unless the engine has been changed.
Sorry.
BBM ?
FMZ ?
RALT Mk V ?
GWG ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 11:30:38 AM
GWG ?
No.
(It is on the internet - if you know the builder's name and Google it, there are several entries ;D)
Quote from: nicanary on May 12, 2017, 04:37:18 AM
(Here's another photo of the car taken in period, which shows the type of race it entered. Apparently this race was for Group O & M cars, which is new to me!)
Was that photo taken in 1964 ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2017, 07:44:06 AM
Quote from: nicanary on May 12, 2017, 04:37:18 AM
(Here's another photo of the car taken in period, which shows the type of race it entered. Apparently this race was for Group O & M cars, which is new to me!)
Was that photo taken in 1964 ?
I don't know. It was on the information for the car on the "for sale" site.
Quote from: nicanary on May 08, 2017, 03:41:15 PM
(A clue - this one was named after the initials of the builder.)
Was the car's name an initialism (like DB) or an abbreviation (like Deebee) ?
An initialism. Three letters representing the 2 first names and surname of the builder.
Was it the only race car built by this builder ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2017, 09:12:51 AM
Was it the only race car built by this builder ?
I think he almost certainly built at least 2 other cars.
Were these two other cars single seaters too ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
Were these two other cars single seaters too ?
I don't know. This car was called the Mk 3. I think it's very possible he built two before this one! ;D
Is the sale ad still online ?
Was it sold by an individual or by a car trading company ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 19, 2017, 06:57:59 AM
Was it sold by an individual or by a car trading company ?
It was listed on a car sales website, and also on e-bay.
1964 KJC MK3 by Ken Code
Quote from: oko94 on May 19, 2017, 07:28:39 AM
1964 KJC MK3 by Ken Code
Yes! I admire your perseverance, and it results in a well-earned point.
Thanks for my 726th point !
It was strangely hard to find despite the numerous data I had gathered...