Please identify brand, model and year for a point
Experts?
Well I'd say it's a Hotchkiss of about 1908. Possibly what we know as a 16/80.
not a Hotchkiss
Georges Roy
no
Sage
no
Pilain
let's make it a bit easier. Not French
Spyker
and not Dutch either
Italian car
And not Italian either
Belgian car "Germain"
not from Belgium either
English car
no
American car
yes
Rainier
locked for you to reveal other details, like model name and year
~ Rainier mod. C 30-35hp Touring 1907
quite so