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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2017 => Topic started by: mekubb on December 01, 2016, 04:18:25 PM

Title: Ubb 230 Britnell 750 sport 1961
Post by: mekubb on December 01, 2016, 04:18:25 PM
Very low and a bit bulky, please identify this racer
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Post by: mekubb on February 05, 2017, 05:41:44 AM
No interest from the experts ? Will soon move it to the pro's ....
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Post by: mekubb on March 15, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
Last call for experts....
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 06:36:02 AM
Up to the pro's
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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 07:34:29 AM
Made in Europe ?
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 07:50:46 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 07:53:47 AM
Made in UK ?
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 08:23:03 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
British engine ?
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Post by: D-type on April 30, 2017, 02:12:07 PM
A Clubman's Formula sports car?
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
British engine ?
yes

Quote from: D-type on April 30, 2017, 02:12:07 PM
A Clubman's Formula sports car?
I'm not familiar with that term, but is was built for championship purposes

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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
BMC engine ?
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
BMC engine ?
Don't know for sure unfortunately, I have another name but can't confirm that the puzzle car has this engine
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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
Assuming the car was being raced in a historic event when the puzzle photo was shot, did this event take place after 2010 ?
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Post by: nicanary on April 30, 2017, 05:18:37 PM
I think this might be an earlier Clubmans racer which has been updated. Those front wings don't look like they started out like that. Early cars of this type had cycle wings, and it's only in recent years that they have used all-enveloping bodies.

Is this a Mallock?
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Post by: mekubb on April 30, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
Not a Mallock
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Post by: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
Centaur ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 01, 2017, 04:06:08 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
Centaur ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 01, 2017, 04:10:44 AM
Is it an Eigenbau?
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Post by: oko94 on May 01, 2017, 04:57:02 AM
Nemesis ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 01, 2017, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: nicanary on May 01, 2017, 04:10:44 AM
Is it an Eigenbau?
Not really, about 6 were made AFAIK

Quote from: oko94 on May 01, 2017, 04:57:02 AM
Nemesis ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 03, 2017, 02:20:51 PM
Is it one of Jim Yardley's Beagles? It's not the one he built from his MkIII monoposto, but I can't find photos of the Mk IV and MK V so I'm having a real guess.
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Post by: mekubb on May 05, 2017, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: nicanary on May 03, 2017, 02:20:51 PM
Is it one of Jim Yardley's Beagles? It's not the one he built from his MkIII monoposto, but I can't find photos of the Mk IV and MK V so I'm having a real guess.
Afraid not.....
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Post by: oko94 on May 06, 2017, 05:36:58 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 30, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
Assuming the car was being raced in a historic event when the puzzle photo was shot, did this event take place after 2010 ?

Still waiting for an answer...
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Post by: mekubb on May 07, 2017, 04:44:35 AM
Sorry, missed your question.... yes pictured in a historic event after 2010
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Post by: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 05:50:47 AM
UK historic event held after 2014 ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 07, 2017, 07:19:53 AM
Not in UK ! But 2014 is spot-on
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Post by: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 07:29:32 AM
Event in the Netherlands ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 07, 2017, 03:58:54 PM
Not in Holland
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Post by: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
Event in a Mediterranean country ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 07, 2017, 05:09:08 PM
Quote from: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
Event in a Mediterranean country ?
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 07, 2017, 05:30:37 PM
Event in Italy ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 08, 2017, 04:17:15 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 08, 2017, 09:24:01 AM
Was this event held between April and September 2014 ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 08, 2017, 12:52:12 PM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 08, 2017, 01:04:08 PM
Was this event held between April and June 2014 ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 08, 2017, 05:29:51 PM
Yes it was held in June 2014
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Post by: oko94 on May 09, 2017, 04:14:17 AM
Was this event held between June 1st and June 15th ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 09, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
No later in the month AFAIK
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Post by: oko94 on May 09, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
Was this event a hillclimb ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 10, 2017, 03:58:42 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 10, 2017, 05:37:16 AM
Is the car a Nerus ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 10, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
Not a Nerus
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Post by: oko94 on May 10, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Did it compete in Cronoscalata Monte Erice Storica 2014 ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 10, 2017, 03:39:25 PM
Not sure, but that's not where the picture was taken
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Post by: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 04:02:01 AM
Was the picture taken at Sarnano Sassotetto ?
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Post by: mekubb on May 12, 2017, 07:48:32 AM
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 04:02:01 AM
Was the picture taken at Sarnano Sassotetto ?
Don't know this name, is that a hillclimb ? If so, it's not the right one
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Post by: Hiawatha on May 12, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Castell'Arquato Vernasca 22th June?
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Post by: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 08:39:10 AM
1961 Britnell 750 Sport
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Post by: Hiawatha on May 12, 2017, 09:16:31 AM
I know it has been widely advertised as 1960/61, but it looks much later, and John Britnell himself states he built and raced a 750 special  in the late sixties. I believe the engine is a Reliant
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Post by: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 10:26:50 AM
I agree with you, the car looks much later than 1961.
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Post by: nicanary on May 12, 2017, 11:32:37 AM
John Britnell was very active in building cars - I doubt he built 6 like the puzzle car, more likely he built 6 different cars over a number of years. I was wrong in thinking it was a clubmans formula car, and I was searching for completely the wrong thing!

It conforms to the 750MC classes. You're right about the Reliant engine which is now almost universal in that club because the old Austin 7 engines are now too fragile to tune to increase power. Still looks way too modern so I reckon it's either a misprint and should be 1971, or it has been rebodied in order to remain competitive.
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Post by: Allan L on May 12, 2017, 01:18:48 PM
John Britnell lives within a mile of me and I still see him occasionally. His health doesn't permit him to build racing cars any more, but I'm sure I can ask him anything you need to know about those he did build!
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Post by: mekubb on May 12, 2017, 02:20:41 PM
Yes, it's a Britnell 750 sport. My source claims it to be from 1961, but I agree that it looks from a later date. If Allan speaks to John Britnell some day, we could have it verified. Thank you for all your input !

The point goes to oko94, well done sir.
Title: Re: Ubb 230 Britnell 750 sport 1961
Post by: oko94 on May 12, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Thanks for my 723rd point !
Title: Re: Ubb 230 Britnell 750 sport 1961
Post by: mekubb on May 13, 2017, 04:04:34 AM
Here is the original pic