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Title: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costanga (Mexican market)
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2018, 05:28:52 AM
For a point, please name the make and model (and remember that this is AutoPuzzles!) ;)
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 15, 2018, 03:32:30 PM
Amazingly no Rookie responses, so up to the Experts...
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: DeAutogids on March 15, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
Let's say Lamborghini for fun
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: el_monty on March 15, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
And to try to narrow it down a bit, I'm going to say Fiero-based.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 16, 2018, 05:33:21 AM
Quote from: el_monty on March 15, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
And to try to narrow it down a bit, I'm going to say Fiero-based.
It's not Fiero-based, as it is a Lamborghini, so now locked to DeAutoGids for the next reply!
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: DeAutogids on March 16, 2018, 05:42:38 AM
I would say a Lamborghini Diablo.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 16, 2018, 05:53:32 AM
Quote from: DeAutogids on March 16, 2018, 05:42:38 AM
I would say a Lamborghini Diablo.
It sort of is a Diablo, but this being AP, it's not quite that simple. So...?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: DeAutogids on March 16, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
Somewhere, online, this picture is used to sell a 1996 Lamborghini Diablo VT
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 17, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: DeAutogids on March 16, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
Somewhere, online, this picture is used to sell a 1996 Lamborghini Diablo VT
Not the name I have...
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: DeAutogids on March 17, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
The same company is using more pictures of different cars in the same location. I did not use google image search, well yes, but only using words.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 19, 2018, 06:28:31 AM
This one is not called a Diablo.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: ChanceHuncha on March 19, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
Is it a kit?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 20, 2018, 07:51:10 AM
Quote from: ChanceHuncha on March 19, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
Is it a kit?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 07:06:35 AM
OK, time for the Pros to demolish this one...
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 07:19:25 AM
I'm with DeAutogids. It's sold by JTCars as a stock 1996 Diablo VT (and it looks like one), so why would it be something else ? Has Lamborghini ever made a Diablo that is not a Diablo ?

After these rhetorical questions, a proper one : JTCars are based in Malaysia, so is it a Malaysian Lamborghini replica ?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 07:23:53 AM
It's not a replica, it is a real Lamborghini which made a Diablo that wasn't called a Diablo (there's a big clue!), and it's not from Malaysia.  So, let the Pros race begin... :)
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: pnegyesi on March 27, 2018, 07:28:01 AM
Is it from Argentina?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 07:33:13 AM
Was it built by the Italian Lamborghini factory ?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 07:37:52 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 27, 2018, 07:28:01 AM
Is it from Argentina?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Quote from: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 07:33:13 AM
Was it built by the Italian Lamborghini factory ?
Yes.
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 07:41:28 AM
Lamborghini Costanga ?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2018, 07:51:34 AM
I just logged on to ask exactly the same question!
Aparently that was what the Diablo was sold as in Mexico...
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2018, 07:53:18 AM
Lamborghini Canto?
Title: Re: Djetset 884
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 07:41:28 AM
Lamborghini Costanga ?
Yes. I was hoping for more detail, so I will add it myself.  The Lamborghini Diablo name was changed for the Mexican market to Costanga, with the Diablo's engine detuned specifically for Mexico from the regular 492ps down to 440ps. Another point to Oko.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 08:23:47 AM
Thanks for the point, but is there any evidence that the puzzle car is actually a Costanga and not a regular Diablo ?
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costanga (Mexican market)
Post by: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 08:33:24 AM
The photo came from a Mexican magazine, captioning the Lamborghini as a Costanga (where I discovered the information about the Mexican market model, but possibly using a generic Diablo image, as the model's look identical). I am not accusing anyone, but I am slightly concerned that potentially some Google Image matching might have taken place here to find this precise image, as this is an absolute no no here...
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2018, 08:41:05 AM
Apparently Lamborghini Costango and Diablo are the same, but Lamborghini changed the name in Mexico because religion matters.
"Mexican version
The Lamborghini Diablo was sold as the Lamborghini Costanga from 1993 through 2000 in Mexico due to controversy against the "Diablo" name, for the Mexican market, the engine was detuned from 492 PS to 440 PS.[8][9] U.S. magazine Motor Week tested the Costanga and found it capable of accelerating from 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds and completing the 1/4-mile in 13.2 seconds at 111 mph.[10]"
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: DeAutogids on March 27, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 08:33:24 AM
The photo came from a Mexican magazine, captioning the Lamborghini as a Costango (where I discovered the information about the Mexican market model, but possibly using a generic Diablo image, as the model's look identical). I am not accusing anyone, but I am slightly concerned that potentially some Google Image matching might have taken place here to find this precise image, as this is an absolute no no here...
No Google Image Matching, I can assure you that.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: Djetset on March 27, 2018, 08:33:24 AM
The photo came from a Mexican magazine, captioning the Lamborghini as a Costango.

Interesting. The photo is definitely an original picture shot by the Malaysian car dealer as they use the same building as a background for all the cars they sell. I wonder why the Mexicain magazine took the picture from them as they could have used any press picture for their article...
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2018, 08:41:05 AM
Apparently Lamborghini Costango and Diablo are the same, but Lamborghini changed the name in Mexico because religion matters.

Sure, but there should be at least one difference : the Diablo logo must have been replaced by a Costanga one or simply removed. Strangely I couldn't find any picture of a Costanga badge. It has to be a very rare beast.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costango (Mexican market)
Post by: oko94 on March 27, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
By the way there's a typo in the thread's title, it should be Costanga instead of Costango.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costanga (Mexican market)
Post by: ChanceHuncha on March 27, 2018, 07:54:55 PM
The only way the Costanga was really changed was internally. They detuned it to meet with Mexican standards I believe. I've looked quite a bit but I haven't seen any difference on the exterior between the normal one and the Mexican one. Maybe possibly a badge, but the listing for this car online only provides just one photo.

I'm also really curious how a Costanga version Diablo would end up in Malaysia. I'm not quite sure if the normal Diablo was given to Malaysian dealers throughout the 90's but I know for sure that the Costanga version was not originally sold there because the name 'Diablo' wouldnt've been such a problem.

Either way, I believe that this is just an original Diablo that a Mexican Magazine ripped and used as an example for a Lamborghini Costanga. I understand where the makers of this magazine are coming from, since there are little to no photos of a genuine Costanga online, and no photos of a Costanga badge either. (I know that the Costangas were still built in Italy and maybe Lamborghini just found it easier to not stick a badge on there and call it a day) It would've been easier for the publishers to just find a photo of a Diablo since they're practically the same. This is still gonna take more digging to find a true answer but I stick to the side that its just a normal Diablo.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costanga (Mexican market)
Post by: DeAutogids on March 28, 2018, 03:28:21 AM
I would go with your conclusion as well
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 884 - Lamborghini Costanga (Mexican market)
Post by: del78 on March 28, 2018, 03:59:28 AM
Maybe someone can find this Motor Week issue with this Costanga test?