Solved - MJW #068 - Kinloch-Climax 1956

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nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on May 13, 2018, 05:43:30 PM
Is this it - for sale in Germany  ...... as a Kieft.

That's the car. Well found. It was essentially a Kieft, as we have already established, but the builder altered some aspects and called the car something different, and it was entered and raced under that name.

LOCKED for you. Can you find out the name given to it in period?
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tobytwirl

was Berwyn Baxter anything to do with it?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on May 14, 2018, 08:02:38 PM
was Berwyn Baxter anything to do with it?

Sorry, I forgot to answer that question. Not him, as far as I know. The only name I have is the person who raced the car, and I suspect he was also the builder although I don't know for sure.

Here's a photo of the car in period. It's the car nearest the camera on the penultimate row, the entry also contains the unique Killeen. I got both images of this car from a fairly well-known website aimed at older enthusiasts.


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tobytwirl

So is it the Kinloch Special driven by Jim Russell?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on May 15, 2018, 03:31:03 PM
So is it the Kinloch Special driven by Jim Russell?
TA - DA!!!!

I was unaware that Jim Russell was on board, but that's the car. The name I have is one Bob Evans, certainly the driver on occasion and possibly the owner/builder. The car was built by an employee at Kieft who purchased basic elements of a Kieft sports-racer such as the chassis, body and much of the running gear, but fitted his own de Dion rear end with inboard drum brakes and called the car a Kinloch for whatever reason. The car presently sports wire wheels but I think it had Kieft elektron wheels in period. The photo is from 1956.

Oddly enough, the car was once entered in a race for 1172cc Ford-engined cars. It seems unlikely to me that somebody would go to the bother of changing engines for one club race , so perhaps there were 2 of these at one time.

Very well solved.
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tobytwirl

Thank you, that one nearly defeated me, so the little hints much appreciated. So which website did you find the story on? Whatever it was I could not find it.

nicanary

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Nicola Evans

#57
I know it was awhile ago but I thought you guys might still be interested... This car was a one-off built by my dad Richard Evans.  I refound it a few months back from another forum and it is now in the hands of a collector in Belgium, with whom we are now in contact. We hope to reunite them at the Goodwood Revival this year.
My dad is now 91 and is extremely happy to have found his car again after so many years. He doesn't remember all the details but we do have a lot of the original receipts and documentation which I have scanned in.
He called it a Kinloch because that was the name of his Syndicate at Lloyd's of London where he worked.
We think the Bob Evans was a typo at the time.  He's never been called Bob!
He had another car (NNK 14) which was a Ford Special with that 1172 engine in.  I asked my dad about that and he can't remember but thinks he perhaps put that engine in first.  (His memory is going a bit
He learned about cars while tinkering in a garage with Colin Chapman as they were friends and lived near each other in Hadley Wood.  He bought the chassis from Colin (have receipt) and Kieft through another contact - apparently the last of the mould.

And that race lineup pic is one I haven't seen before!
I have some original pics scanned in which I can post if anyone wants to see!  And feel free to ask questions and I can ask my dad when I see him next.

Nicola Evans

Also posted in the 2018 thread about this same car....for your interest!
I know it was awhile ago but I thought you guys might still be interested... This car was a one-off built by my dad Richard Evans.  I refound it a few months back from another forum and it is now in the hands of a collector in Belgium, with whom we are now in contact. We hope to reunite them at the Goodwood Revival this year.
My dad is now 91 and is extremely happy to have found his car again after so many years. He doesn't remember all the details but we do have a lot of the original receipts and documentation which I have scanned in.
He called it a Kinloch because that was the name of his Syndicate at Lloyd's of London where he worked.
We think the Bob Evans was a typo at the time.  He's never been called Bob!
He had another car (NNK 14) which was a Ford Special with that 1172 engine in.  I asked my dad about that and he can't remember but thinks he perhaps put that engine in first.  (His memory is going a bit
He learned about cars while tinkering in a garage with Colin Chapman as they were friends and lived near each other in Hadley Wood.  He bought the chassis from Colin (have receipt) and Kieft through another contact - apparently the last of the mould.

And that race lineup pic is one I haven't seen before!
I have some original pics scanned in which I can post if anyone wants to see!  And feel free to ask questions and I can ask my dad when I see him next.

Carnut

Many thanks for your post Nicola.
I'm hoping to be at the Revival this year so will look out for the car.
If you are able to post more pictures here that would be terrific; it's just what we like!
Wish your Dad well from all at AutoPuzzles.
Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

nicanary

Carnut just beat me to it. Welcome Nicola, and thanks from me too for your input. Your dad's Ford special was known as the Nordec - it's been another puzzle of mine on this site.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Nicola Evans

#61
I have scans of his original pics on a google drive
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMKcS6cf9UbGmsw6CHkhph95r2Z1sECNJLJj9lgGwLwbtF1PLZXA7i9vxw1I1ncig?key=eUhwOEtFNE03Z0dFZkE1SF9uU1RJZ1BRcXlaTG53
and I shall try and upload individually as well

Description written by my dad a few years ago

this pic Brands hatch 1955, prior to painting

Collage I made him for Christmas 2018

Carnut

Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

Carnut

Bob Evans driving the car at Silverstone in 1955:

Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

D-type

#64
What, when and where?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

D-type

Not even a nibble from the Rookies so up to the Experts we go.
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

hermanoto

Kinloch Climax, 1100cc, built by Mr. Evans in 1955. Twin tube chassis with 1100cc engine paired with MG TC gearbox. Bodied with a fibreglass Kieft body shell. Raced at Silversone, Brands Hatch, Thruxton and Goodwood.

knewit


D-type

Not a Buckler because it's the Kinloch-Climax
Here's an advert from Autosport 11th October 1957 and some notes from the car's builder, Bob Evans
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

nicanary

This has already been a puzzle - twice! I have merged them all, including a very informative post from the builder's daughter.
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hermanoto

Yesterday I solved this puzzle from DAR-66 also, but is my puzzle point awarded?

nicanary

Quote from: hermanoto on February 08, 2023, 08:43:52 AM
Yesterday I solved this puzzle from DAR-66 also, but is my puzzle point awarded?

I have asked Carnut to check this for you. He has access to information like this.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

hermanoto