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Title: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 SS with Bertone body
Post by: grobmotorix on November 10, 2015, 12:50:37 PM
Over the years I have found many photos of this mystery car.

They all were shot by the well known German photographer Perckhammer and have been published in diverse magazines between 1929 and 1939.

Does anybody have an idea?

I really would would love to know what it is...
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 12, 2015, 07:06:19 AM
I'm sure you know what's written on the radiator cap...
Just in case someone else is going to spend too much time on it (like I did...  ;D )
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277
Post by: grobmotorix on November 13, 2015, 09:30:49 AM
Thank you for that hint.

Yes, I forgot to tell about the ADAC badge - this is just an emblem of the biggest German car club ...
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277
Post by: grobmotorix on November 15, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
I found two new photos of it - do the experts know something?
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277
Post by: grobmotorix on December 19, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
Nothing?

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Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277
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Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: grobmotorix on February 11, 2016, 03:39:10 PM
I was told in another forum, that this must be a
Fiat 6-28PS (German tax related HP) type 509
with a German special sportscar body.

Still I do not know anything about this bodywork...
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: Wendax on February 11, 2016, 03:59:16 PM
I just read this other forum post, and - oh dear - I have two pictures of the other car mentioned there with the same bodywork. It belonged to the shoe manufacturer Mella from Erfurt:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: grobmotorix on February 11, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
Wow!

:applause:

Now who could help identify the coachbuilding company...
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: Wendax on April 15, 2016, 04:09:52 PM
One more:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: Wendax on January 13, 2017, 02:16:25 PM
On PreWarCar it was identified as a Fiat 501 S with Bertone body.
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: grobmotorix on January 13, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
The problem is: I think I have found another hint that also points to italy, but that would not even be a Fiat...
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: ropat53 on January 13, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
This picture was also posted at Prewarcars, FIAT is clearly visible on the spare wheel knock-off, it's upside down. The second picture is enlarged and flipped
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509
Post by: grobmotorix on January 14, 2017, 06:06:22 AM
OK, I think I should reveal my other idea now.

Gräfin Einsiedel, a famous German female race driver drove a Chiribiri at the Eibsee ice race in 1929.
Its cooler mask looks so very similar, even more similar than othe photos of other cars shown here.

Now what do you all think: could this Chiribiri also feature a Bertone body?
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: Wendax on April 18, 2018, 12:54:40 PM
Another car of the same type, clearly identifiable as a Fiat:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: grobmotorix on April 18, 2018, 01:06:59 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: Wendax on April 24, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
And another one:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: grobmotorix on April 25, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: grobmotorix on August 06, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
A very similar car called Fiat 501 SS was auctioned at Coys during the Dyck Classic Days some days ago:

Title: Re: The Perckhammer mystery - german licence IA-6277 - Fiat 509 with Bertone body
Post by: grobmotorix on January 14, 2019, 02:51:35 PM
This 501 Bertone SS was sold at 2019 Maastricht Interclassics & Topmobiel: