Solved: Allemano's comeback 3rd - 1949 G. Lurani designed Veritas BMW328 by Riva

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gte4289

#25
February 06, 2019, 04:52:48 PM

gte4289

#26
February 06, 2019, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 01, 2019, 04:34:24 AM
- who made the bodywork...
- who designed it...
Are both of these elements Italian?

Allemano

#27
February 06, 2019, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 06, 2019, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 01, 2019, 04:34:24 AM
- who made the bodywork...
- who designed it...
Are both of these elements Italian?
yes!

gte4289

#29
February 06, 2019, 11:03:20 PM Last Edit: February 06, 2019, 11:05:49 PM by gte4289
Quote from: Allemano on February 06, 2019, 10:39:32 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 06, 2019, 04:52:48 PM
Veritas Meteor by ...


Veritas is correct!
and if Stabilimenti Farina is not, then Pinin Farina?

Allemano

#30
February 07, 2019, 12:42:21 AM
Neither Pinin nor Stabilimenti Farina

Allemano

#31
February 07, 2019, 03:21:53 AM
BTW: as far as I can tell it's not a Veritas Meteor

gte4289

#32
February 07, 2019, 03:28:28 AM
Coachwork by Colli?

Allemano

#33
February 07, 2019, 03:28:54 AM

norberthanke

#34
February 07, 2019, 04:15:45 AM
This one did not survive, I suppose

targhediferro

#35
February 07, 2019, 04:22:39 AM
Veritas by Riva di Merate?

Allemano

#36
February 07, 2019, 04:29:38 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on February 07, 2019, 04:22:39 AM
Veritas by Riva di Merate?
:thumbsup: Locked for you to fill in the missing details..

Allemano

#37
February 07, 2019, 04:30:03 AM
Quote from: norberthanke on February 07, 2019, 04:15:45 AM
This one did not survive, I suppose
most probably not

targhediferro

#38
February 07, 2019, 10:42:12 AM
I suppose the design could be referred to Mario Riva and Guido Cattaneo. It's quite lookalike to Fiat 1100E/1400 Coupé and 6c2500 Lurani Coupé, both from 1950...so I guess this Veritas is from 1950 too.

Allemano

#39
February 07, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on February 07, 2019, 10:42:12 AM
I suppose the design could be referred to Mario Riva and Guido Cattaneo. It's quite lookalike to Fiat 1100E/1400 Coupé and 6c2500 Lurani Coupé, both from 1950...so I guess this Veritas is from 1950 too.
not quite.. one more try!

I need the base: both companies were already mentioned, but I need the engine it had
Coachbuilder is Riva. The design goes back to somebody already mentioned as well..
The year is still wrong.

targhediferro

#40
February 07, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
Veritas-bmw RS based, 1948, Lurani design?

Carnut

#41
February 07, 2019, 06:01:29 PM
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

Allemano

#42
February 08, 2019, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 07, 2019, 06:01:29 PM
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
Maybe it wasn't plain to see, but it still was locked for targhediferro.  ;)

Allemano

#43
February 08, 2019, 02:32:24 AM Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 03:51:36 AM by Allemano
Quote from: targhediferro on February 07, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
Veritas-bmw RS based, 1948, Lurani design?
Almost correct. It's based on a Veritas BMW 328 according to my source and the year is 1949, but the nickpicky days are over.. Point for targhediferro!
Quote: "BMW-Veritas 328 di Giovanni Lurani, carrozzeria Riva, 1949"

Thanks to our great Paul Jaray I found this car which is not featured in Alessandro Sannia's Riva book. Paul told him about the car, but obviousely it was too late. The chapter was closed.

Wendax

#44
February 08, 2019, 03:12:29 AM
According to Rosellen's Veritas book Lurani's car is a BMW 328 rebodied by a Turinese coachbuilder named Caracciolo and was brought to Veritas because of engine problems. But Rosellen (aka Thyssen-Bornemisza) may be wrong(again).

Allemano

#45
February 08, 2019, 03:18:39 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 08, 2019, 03:12:29 AM
According to Rosellen's Veritas book Lurani's car is a BMW 328 rebodied by a Turinese coachbuilder named Caracciolo and was brought to Veritas because of engine problems. But Rosellen (aka Thyssen-Bornemisza) may be wrong(again).
Same pics in the Rosellen book?

Allemano

#47
February 08, 2019, 03:57:26 AM
The car has a Como number plate. Merate is not too far away (~ 35 km). Were Merate cars equipped with Como plates back then? Maybe the Italian members know.

Carnut

#48
February 08, 2019, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: Allemano on February 08, 2019, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 07, 2019, 06:01:29 PM
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
Maybe it wasn't plain to see, but it still was locked for targhediferro.  ;)

My apologies.
I wouldn't have got this without his post anyway...
Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

targhediferro

#49
February 08, 2019, 01:36:11 PM
Thank you for the point....Merate had Como plates, and the front of this Veritas is so similar to Fiat 1400 Coupé Riva that I dare to say that it very hard to think that a "never heard by anybody" Mr. Caracciolo could have coachbuilt it.
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