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Title: Solved: gte4289_91 -- 1922 KRC Red Racer by National Motor Cab Co Ltd
Post by: gte4289 on January 07, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Please identify this car for a point:

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Post by: gte4289 on January 14, 2019, 01:10:50 PM
Experts?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 14, 2019, 10:38:58 PM
German?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 14, 2019, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 14, 2019, 10:38:58 PM
German?
No
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Post by: Fёdor on January 17, 2019, 11:01:39 AM
European
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Post by: gte4289 on January 17, 2019, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 17, 2019, 11:01:39 AM
European
Yes
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Post by: D-type on January 17, 2019, 11:25:26 AM
Was it raced at Brooklands?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 17, 2019, 12:22:53 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 17, 2019, 11:25:26 AM
Was it raced at Brooklands?
A similar car of the same make was raced at Brooklands. However, while I believe it was the car shown in my image, I cannot be certain this is the case.
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Post by: Fёdor on January 17, 2019, 01:33:02 PM

French
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Post by: gte4289 on January 17, 2019, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 17, 2019, 01:33:02 PM

French
Not French
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Post by: gte4289 on January 22, 2019, 10:27:11 PM
Up to the Pros
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Post by: nicanary on January 23, 2019, 04:21:40 AM
Is it an Austin Heavy 12 ? Sorry - forget that. Is it an Austin 20 ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 23, 2019, 09:06:48 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 23, 2019, 04:21:40 AM
Is it an Austin Heavy 12 ? Sorry - forget that. Is it an Austin 20 ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on January 23, 2019, 10:54:05 AM
Wolseley ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 23, 2019, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 23, 2019, 10:54:05 AM
Wolseley ?
No
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Post by: oko94 on January 23, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
Is it British ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 23, 2019, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 23, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
Is it British ?
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on January 23, 2019, 01:00:18 PM
Was it built between 1920 and 1925 ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 23, 2019, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 23, 2019, 01:00:18 PM
Was it built between 1920 and 1925 ?
Yes
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Post by: nicanary on January 24, 2019, 04:44:38 AM
Is this a large-volume manufacturer, or a smaller company?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 24, 2019, 09:52:57 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 24, 2019, 04:44:38 AM
Is this a large-volume manufacturer, or a smaller company?
Small
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Post by: nicanary on January 26, 2019, 04:20:15 AM
Belsize-Bradshaw ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 27, 2019, 04:07:20 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 26, 2019, 04:20:15 AM
Belsize-Bradshaw ?
No
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Post by: Wendax on January 27, 2019, 04:28:25 AM
Horstman?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 27, 2019, 04:41:24 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2019, 04:28:25 AM
Horstman?
No
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Post by: Wendax on January 27, 2019, 05:10:41 AM
Enfield-Allday?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 27, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2019, 05:10:41 AM
Enfield-Allday?
No
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Post by: nicanary on January 29, 2019, 04:47:06 AM
ABC ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 29, 2019, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 29, 2019, 04:47:06 AM
ABC ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on January 29, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Surely not a Charron-Laycock ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 29, 2019, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: nicanary on January 29, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Surely not a Charron-Laycock ?
No
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Post by: Fёdor on January 29, 2019, 08:42:25 PM
Marlborough?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 29, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 29, 2019, 08:42:25 PM
Marlborough?
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on February 04, 2019, 02:16:47 AM
Bayliss-Thomas?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 04, 2019, 12:09:31 PM
Calthorpe
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Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2019, 04:14:56 AM
Is this the Bora-Sage ?
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Post by: gte4289 on February 05, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 04, 2019, 02:16:47 AM
Bayliss-Thomas?
Quote from: Fёdor on February 04, 2019, 12:09:31 PM
Calthorpe
Quote from: nicanary on February 05, 2019, 04:14:56 AM
Is this the Bora-Sage ?
None of the above
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Post by: pnegyesi on February 16, 2019, 11:59:30 AM
was this brand active in the 1920s only?
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Post by: nicanary on February 20, 2019, 06:55:00 AM
 :bump:
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Post by: Carnut on February 20, 2019, 09:49:47 AM
gte4289 hasn't logged on for over 4 days;  he must be travelling or something..
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2019, 06:45:04 AM
Marseal ?
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Post by: gte4289 on February 25, 2019, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 16, 2019, 11:59:30 AM
was this brand active in the 1920s only?
Yes

Quote from: nicanary on February 22, 2019, 06:45:04 AM
Marseal ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on February 27, 2019, 06:32:26 AM
Clyno ?
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Post by: gte4289 on February 28, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: nicanary on February 27, 2019, 06:32:26 AM
Clyno ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on March 01, 2019, 03:58:20 AM
Warren-Lambert ?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 03, 2019, 03:50:49 PM
Eric-Cambell
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Post by: gte4289 on March 03, 2019, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 01, 2019, 03:58:20 AM
Warren-Lambert ?
Quote from: Fёdor on March 03, 2019, 03:50:49 PM
Eric-Cambell
Neither of these
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 04, 2019, 12:15:28 AM
Gwynne?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 05, 2019, 03:05:00 AM
Hampton
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Post by: nicanary on March 05, 2019, 06:44:19 AM
Rhode ?

(B H Norris drove a black example at Brooklands)
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2019, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 04, 2019, 12:15:28 AM
Gwynne?
Quote from: Fёdor on March 05, 2019, 03:05:00 AM
Hampton
Quote from: nicanary on March 05, 2019, 06:44:19 AM
Rhode ?

(B H Norris drove a black example at Brooklands)
None of the above
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Post by: nicanary on March 06, 2019, 03:03:30 PM
Deemster ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2019, 04:28:15 PM
[edit: duplicate post]
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Post by: nicanary on March 06, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 06, 2019, 03:03:30 PM
Deemster ?

What about this though......?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 06, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 06, 2019, 03:03:30 PM
Deemster ?

What about this though......?
Sorry, not Deemster.
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Post by: nicanary on March 07, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
Bean ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 07, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 07, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
Bean ?
Not Bean
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Post by: nicanary on March 07, 2019, 02:15:31 PM
Emms ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 07, 2019, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 07, 2019, 02:15:31 PM
Emms ?
Nope
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Post by: nicanary on March 08, 2019, 03:55:55 AM
Vulcan ?
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Post by: vasilis1200101 on March 08, 2019, 10:40:50 AM
Salmson
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2019, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 08, 2019, 03:55:55 AM
Vulcan ?
Quote from: vasilis1200101 on March 08, 2019, 10:40:50 AM
Salmson
It is neither of these.
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
Calcott ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2019, 01:21:40 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
Calcott ?
Nope
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 02:29:59 PM
This is like a lexicon of British light cars from the 1920s. I can only continue to throw stuff at the wall and hope something sticks.

Albatros?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 02:29:59 PM
This is like a lexicon of British light cars from the 1920s. I can only continue to throw stuff at the wall and hope something sticks.

Albatros?
Not Albatros.
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 04:00:39 PM
Abingdon ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2019, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 11, 2019, 04:00:39 PM
Abingdon ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2019, 06:08:37 AM
Galloway ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 12, 2019, 06:08:37 AM
Galloway ?
No
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Post by: nicanary on March 13, 2019, 05:27:02 AM
Cluley ?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 13, 2019, 01:02:41 PM
Whitlock
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Post by: gte4289 on March 13, 2019, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: nicanary on March 13, 2019, 05:27:02 AM
Cluley ?
Quote from: Fёdor on March 13, 2019, 01:02:41 PM
Whitlock
It is neither of these.
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Post by: Fёdor on March 13, 2019, 11:36:10 PM
Straker-Squire
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Post by: nicanary on March 14, 2019, 05:09:30 AM
Did this maker mainly build smaller cars, or is this larger than I thought?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 14, 2019, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on March 13, 2019, 11:36:10 PM
Straker-Squire
Not Straker-Squire

Quote from: nicanary on March 14, 2019, 05:09:30 AM
Did this maker mainly build smaller cars, or is this larger than I thought?
I believe the only cars built under this brand were the separate racing and street versions of the puzzle car. As for the size, one of my sources does refer to the car as "small." That said, the same source credits the car with a wheelbase of more than 2500 mm--is not at all small by modern standards.
Title: Re: gte4289_91
Post by: nicanary on March 15, 2019, 04:54:11 AM
Thanks for your help. My guess was that this car was what the RAC would have referred to as a light car.

The problem is - because most races at Brooklands were run to a handicap formula, just about anything and everything was entered there at some time or other. Even the most pedestrian of cars. I must keep digging.
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Post by: Fёdor on March 16, 2019, 04:54:43 AM
Crouch
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Post by: nicanary on March 18, 2019, 06:27:38 AM
Wigan-Barlow ?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 18, 2019, 05:47:55 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on March 16, 2019, 04:54:43 AM
Crouch
Quote from: nicanary on March 18, 2019, 06:27:38 AM
Wigan-Barlow ?
Neither Crouch nor Wigan-Barlow
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 23, 2019, 01:53:44 PM
was this company based in Coventry?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 24, 2019, 12:50:19 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 23, 2019, 01:53:44 PM
was this company based in Coventry?
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 24, 2019, 01:58:38 PM
was it based in a big city, like Birmingham?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 25, 2019, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 24, 2019, 01:58:38 PM
was it based in a big city, like Birmingham?
It was based in a big city, but not Birmingham.
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 25, 2019, 02:12:46 PM
London?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 25, 2019, 05:26:25 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 25, 2019, 02:12:46 PM
London?
Yes
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Post by: Allan L on March 28, 2019, 08:27:29 AM
Talbot, perhaps
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Post by: gte4289 on March 28, 2019, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: Allan L on March 28, 2019, 08:27:29 AM
Talbot, perhaps
Not Talbot
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Post by: Fёdor on March 30, 2019, 12:50:53 AM
KRC
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Post by: gte4289 on March 30, 2019, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on March 30, 2019, 12:50:53 AM
KRC
Correct! Locked for you to identify the year and model name.
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Post by: Fёdor on March 31, 2019, 01:47:59 AM

10hp 1922
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Post by: gte4289 on April 01, 2019, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on March 31, 2019, 01:47:59 AM

10hp 1922
1922 is the correct year, but my source is a period advertisement that provides a specific name for this competition model, not the hp output. (I do know the engine displacement and top speed, however.) I am looking for this specific model name. Still locked for you.
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Post by: Fёdor on April 01, 2019, 11:28:53 PM
Red Racer
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Post by: gte4289 on April 02, 2019, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on April 01, 2019, 11:28:53 PM
Red Racer
That's it. Another point for you!
Title: Re: Solved: gte4289_91 -- 1922 KRC Red Racer by National Motor Cab Co Ltd
Post by: Fёdor on April 02, 2019, 11:18:22 PM
Thank!
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