Fellow Autopuzzlers, I celebrate my 400th puzzle post with a new collection of small electric cars. Here you have sixteen of them, for a point each, please tell me their names and what country they are from. (NOTE: Some are the product of a collaboration between two or more countries, but I'm sure we'll work it out. Also, there is one country for which there is more than one car)
Enjoy.
2nd batch
Up to the Experts!
Monty400b >> 1976 SCL(Seattle City light) RT1
Quote from: morphly on February 23, 2019, 04:49:15 PM
Monty400b >> 1976 SCL(Seattle City light) RT1
That is correct! From the USA, of course.
Answers post:
A- 2018 Share2drive SVEN (Germany) (Djetset)
B- 1976 SCL (Seattle City Light) RT1 (USA) (morphly)
C- 2011 3ai Modul'eo (France) (Oguerrerob)
D- 2012 HU-GO (Turkey) (Oguerrerob)
E- 2016 Ecobus J-800 EV2 (Mongolia) (pnegyesi)
F- 2013 Edison EV by University of Zilina (Slovakia) (Oguerrerob)
G- 2017 Vetrya e-vial (Italy) (Djetset)
H- 2013 HTM (Shandong) MIKI (China/Italy) (Oguerrerob)
I- 2005 Microcab H4 (England, UK) (Oguerrerob)
J- 2010 Project Prcek (Czech Republic) (Djetset)
K- 2017 Daechang Danigo (South Korea) (Djetset)
L- 2012 PICAV (EU, led by Italy) (Djetset)
M- 2016 Project Belo (Greece) (Djetset)
N- 2017 Mobilis Li (Brazil) (Djetset)
O- 2017 Mikro MM1 (Northern Ireland, UK) (ChanceHuncha)
P- 2018 LM&TH Thalía City (Mexico) (Djetset)
Greetings Monty! Congrats on the 400, Too many puzzles I could ever comprehend...
Anyways, M is the Mikro MM1, an electric 'Micro Supercar' startup out of Ireland. Looks like someone tried to scrunch a Lamborghini together and tried putting it in their pocket!
Thanks, though 400 is not that many! Some of the guys around here are well into the thousands! :o
I know you meant to say O instead of M, and indeed it is the Mikro MM1. Mikro Automotive is actually based in Greysteel in Northern Ireland, so it is Irish but also from the UK.
Last chance, Experts, or this group puzzle will be moved up to the Pros!
Up to the Pros.
i Microcab H4 by John Jostins from Coventry University RDM Automotive 2005 UK
C Mooville 3ai Moduleo by AAA Industries France
D HU-GO Single-Seater Ultra-Light Electric Vehicle by Prof. Engin Tanık and Prof. Volkan Parlaktaş of Automotive Engineering Department of Hacettepe University 2012 Ankara, Turkey
You've touched on a bit of a specialist subject of mine here; microcars, so here goes with what I think I know:
A: Share2Drive SVEN from, Aachen, Germany (as currently being exhibited at the 2019 Geneva Salon)
C. ECOmove QBEAK from Denmark
G: Vetrya, Italy
H: Kamisato Town Ultra small mobility, Japan
J: Project PRCEK Urban Racer, CZ,
K: Daechang Daningo, South Korea
L: PICAV (Personal Intelligent City Accessible Vehicle), from Australia
M: Belo, based on an OSTAV platform, Greece
N: Mobilis Li, Brazil
P: Thalia, Mexico
E: made in China ?
F: made in Europe ?
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
You've touched on a bit of a specialist subject of mine here; microcars, so here goes with what I think I know:
A: Share2Drive SVEN from, Aachen, Germany (as currently being exhibited at the 2019 Geneva Salon)
C. ECOmove QBEAK from Denmark
G: Vetrya, Italy
H: Kamisato Town Ultra small mobility, Japan
J: Project PRCEK Urban Racer, CZ,
K: Daechang Daningo, South Korea
L: PICAV (Personal Intelligent City Accessible Vehicle), from Australia
M: Belo, based on an OSTAV platform, Greece
N: Mobilis Li, Brazil
P: Thalia, Mexico
You beat me to it! 8)
Is E the Guangdong Lvtong LT-S2.DB from China? Not too sure about this one as there are a handful of Chinese electric microcars that basically look the same!
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 14, 2019, 07:44:46 AM
i Microcab H4 by John Jostins from Coventry University RDM Automotive 2005 UK
C Mooville 3ai Moduleo by AAA Industries France
D HU-GO Single-Seater Ultra-Light Electric Vehicle by Prof. Engin Tanık and Prof. Volkan Parlaktaş of Automotive Engineering Department of Hacettepe University 2012 Ankara, Turkey
Three points for Oguerrerob!
- The Microcab H4 is a fuel cell car that can accommodate wheelchair users and was developed and built in the UK by an entity called Microcab Consortium, which includes RDM Group, Delta Motorsport, Intelligent Energy and my alma mater, Coventry University. It was first presented in prototype form (the unit shown in the puzzle picture) in 2005; since then a number of units have been made, for example for use by Royal Mail and as internal transportation at Birmingham University campus.
- The 3ai Modul'eo or Moduléo (sources vary) was shown at the 2011 Geneva show, where I took the puzzle picture. 3ai was the marque created by Assistance Aéronautique Automobile (AAA) Industries to showcase this vehicle, which is a design proposal for a car that can stretch to offer ample space for two rows of seats, and contract for parking. (The Mooville is another electric vehicle also shown in Geneva 2011, which I puzzled a couple of years ago)
- There little more I can add about the HU-GO (or HuGo, again sources vary)
BTW this means that there are two cars from the UK, but that wasn't the country I was referring to when I said there was more than one car for one of them. I had overlooked this because, mistakenly, I had the Mikro MM1 as from the Republic of Ireland.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
You've touched on a bit of a specialist subject of mine here; microcars, so here goes with what I think I know:
A: Share2Drive SVEN from, Aachen, Germany (as currently being exhibited at the 2019 Geneva Salon)
Yes of course. When I posted the puzzled in February I didn't know this car was going to be shown in Geneva a few days later! :P SVEN stands for Shared Vehicle Electric Native. First point
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
C. ECOmove QBEAK from Denmark
No, Oguerrerob got this one.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
G: Vetrya, Italy
Since I'm going to give you a bunch of points, I will make you work a bit to get them. ;) Vetrya is the electronics company that presented this car, but what is the model name of the car itself? Locked for you.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
H: Kamisato Town Ultra small mobility, Japan
That's what I thought too when I first found this image, but it turns out that this car has another origin and another name. Since you found the Kamisato link, I will lock this for you as well.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
J: Project PRCEK Urban Racer, CZ,
Yes. Developed and built by Martin Hreben & Jiri Uiberlay, presented in 2013. Second point.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
K: Daechang Daningo, South Korea
Yes. The name is actually Danigo. This Twizy competitor was presented in 2017 and is said to have a 100 km autonomy. Third point.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
L: PICAV (Personal Intelligent City Accessible Vehicle), from Australia
Yes, it's the PICAV. It surprises me that you assign it Australian nationality, because this is a European Union project, in which many entities of different countries participated, but all of them were European. The project was led by the University of Genoa, so had this car as Italian. Anyway, I consider this one solved and it's your fourth point.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
M: Belo, based on an OSTAV platform, Greece
Yes. This is a virtual design proposal by Roe Design Studio, located in Tríkala, which is also accesible for wheelchair users. Fifth point.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
N: Mobilis Li, Brazil
Yes. Mobilis is a start-up created by the engineers Thiago Hoeltgebaum, Mahatma Marostica and Paulo Zanetti, based in Palhoça, near Florianopolis. The Li, presented in 2017, is supposed to go on sale this year, in three possible configurations: Trail, Comfort and Work. Sixth point.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
P: Thalia, Mexico
Thalia is the base model name of this car, but I'm going to ask you for the name of the company behind it, and the name of this specific version (again, there are three). Locked too.
So there you go! You get six points from this post, and there are another three waiting. :applause:
Quote from: oko94 on March 14, 2019, 09:43:40 AM
E: made in China ?
F: made in Europe ?
For my answer about E, please see below. F is European.
Quote from: Djetset on March 14, 2019, 11:09:02 AM
Is E the Guangdong Lvtong LT-S2.DB from China? Not too sure about this one as there are a handful of Chinese electric microcars that basically look the same!
Oh dear. I stumbled into the same pitfall again, rebadged Chinese cars. I knew this car was one of the many knockoffs that exist of the Estrima Biró, but I shouldn't have naively trusted my source when it said it was otherwise a local creation. So, I will give you a point for giving one if its possible true origins, and I will give another point to whoever finds the Non-Chinese identity given to the specific variant of the puzzle picture, with that specific logo on the grille.
E: made in Asia ?
F: made in a Mediterranean country ?
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Quote from: oko94 on March 14, 2019, 01:00:55 PM
E: made in Asia ? YES
F: made in a Mediterranean country ? NO
E: made in Central Asia ?
F: made in Scandinavia ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 14, 2019, 01:32:05 PM
E: made in Central Asia ? NO
F: made in Scandinavia ? NO
E: made in South Asia ?
F: made in Benelux ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 14, 2019, 04:02:05 PM
E: made in South Asia ? NO
F: made in Benelux ? NO
E: made in Middle East ?
F: made in a former Warsaw Pact country ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 14, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
E: made in Middle East ? NO
F: made in a former Warsaw Pact country ? YES
E: made in Southeast Asia ?
F: made in Czech Republic ?
F: made in Poland?
E Huizi Woma?
E Huizhou Woma Electric Vehicle China
H Jiangsu Xinling Powerful Electric Car China
E: made in East Asia ?
F: made in Romania ?
F: made in a Balkan country?
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 15, 2019, 08:39:26 AM
E Huizhou Woma Electric Vehicle China
The E I'm looking for is from another country that is not China.
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 15, 2019, 08:39:26 AM
H Jiangsu Xinling Powerful Electric Car China
I just realised that this one was supposed to be locked for Djetset. 24 hours still have not passed since my reply in which I locked it, and I doubt Djetset has even seen it yet because the last time he logged in was before I replied, so I would ask you not to attempt this one until further notice. However, I will say that your answer was not the one I'm looking for; I'm going to be as demanding for this one as for E, so I want the name of the actual vehicle in the puzzle picture, with the specific logo it has on the front.
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 15, 2019, 08:39:26 AM
H Jiangsu Xinling Powerful Electric Car China
I just realised that this one was supposed to be locked for Djetset. 24 hours still have not passed since my reply in which I locked it, and I doubt Djetset has even seen it yet because the last time he logged in was before I replied, so I would ask you not to attempt this one until further notice. However, I will say that your answer was not the one I'm looking for; I'm going to be as demanding for this one as for E, so I want the name of the actual vehicle in the puzzle picture, with the specific logo it has on the front.
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Sorry, I didn't notice
E: made in North Korea ?
F: made in Hungary ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 15, 2019, 10:38:27 AM
E: made in North Korea ? NO
F: made in Hungary ? NO
E: made in Mongolia ?
F: made in Russia ?
E is J-800-EV2 (sorry oko94)
F: made in Bulgaria ?
F: university project?
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 15, 2019, 05:36:09 PM
E is J-800-EV2 (sorry oko94)
J-800 EV2 is indeed the model name, but what is the make? (which that green and yellow logo belongs to). Locked
F: made in Slovakia ?
Quote from: el_monty on March 15, 2019, 06:10:52 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 15, 2019, 05:36:09 PM
E is J-800-EV2 (sorry oko94)
J-800 EV2 is indeed the model name, but what is the make? (which that green and yellow logo belongs to). Locked
Thanks for the numerous Locks El-Monty, and sorry for the slow reply; I've been away for the last 48 hours.
I'll start with the two easier ones below, but I'm struggling a bit with 400E and think another puzzler might have now cracked this one.
To complete the full names for other the Locks though, here goes:
400G: Vetrya e-VIAL digital city car from Italy.
400P: Thalia, made by LM & TM in Mexico, with this EV version of the three models available being the Citadino (City), with the other two being the Pick-Up and Convertible.
For 400H, I've found various other model names, but is the HTM-Japan Corporation (part of the Plan Co. Ltd) the maker's name you are looking for? The model could be the 'mini miniature mobility Boom Car.'
One point goes to pnegyesi for the Ecobus J-800 EV2!
F Edison EV by University of Zilina 2016 Slovakia
Quote from: Djetset on March 16, 2019, 07:46:44 AM
Thanks for the numerous Locks El-Monty, and sorry for the slow reply; I've been away for the last 48 hours.
I'll start with the two easier ones below, but I'm struggling a bit with 400E and think another puzzler might have now cracked this one.
To complete the full names for other the Locks though, here goes:
400G: Vetrya e-VIAL digital city car from Italy.
Correct, another point for you. Like the Belo, this one is also based on the Tabby EVO platform.
Quote from: Djetset on March 16, 2019, 07:46:44 AM
400P: Thalia, made by LM & TM in Mexico, with this EV version of the three models available being the Citadino (City), with the other two being the Pick-Up and Convertible.
That's it, or at least close enough. The company is LM & TH Automóviles, located in Puebla. Thalía City was the model name I wanted. Yet another point going your way.
Quote from: Djetset on March 16, 2019, 07:46:44 AM
For 400H, I've found various other model names, but is the HTM-Japan Corporation (part of the Plan Co. Ltd) the maker's name you are looking for? The model could be the 'mini miniature mobility Boom Car.'
The maker's name is indeed HTM, or at least part of it is, but it's not the Japanese HTM Corporation (which is an HR and recruitment company), and the model name is not Boom. You can keep looking, still locked.
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2019, 10:56:55 AM
F Edison EV by University of Zilina 2016 Slovakia
Correct, point for you (though it was presented in 2013). Sorry oko94! After all your work the points were swiped from under you... :P
"The maker's name is indeed HTM, or at least part of it is, but it's not the Japanese HTM Corporation (which is an HR and recruitment company), and the model name is not Boom. You can keep looking, still locked."
Thanks for the remaining Lock El-Monty, but I must confess that I'm struggling to find the model name here for H. Could it be Komugucci from 2015?!
I know where you found the Komaguchi or Komagichi name (transliterations vary), and for a while I also thought that was its name, but it's not. You have done a lot of the heavy lifting in the search of this car, but since your point haul from this puzzle has been already big enough, I hereby lift the lock. Finish it off guys.
Could it be Kamisato-1?
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
Could it be Kamisato-1?
No, that was ruled out back in the first page. Kamisato is the city where this vehicles have been used for an urban mobility project.
I've found that this vehicle was originally designed by Alessandro Pavoni of HTM Auto Italy, for Shandong Group China. And was named MIKI City-Elf EV. It was unveiled at 2013 EICMA
Yess that's it! You take the point and the puzzle is now complete. Thanks for playing gentlemen!
The points have been distributed as follows:
Djetset: 8+1 points
Oguerrerob: 5 points
morphly: 1 point
pnegyesi: 1 point
ChanceHuncha: 1 point
I will post some unedited photos now.
Share2Drive SVEN
SCL RT1
Edison
Vetrya e-vial
Microcab H4 (pic scanned from the alumni newsletter :-)
PRCEK
Project Belo
Mobilis Li
This was a fun puzzle, thank you
Quote from: pnegyesi on March 18, 2019, 10:16:43 AM
This was a fun puzzle, thank you
Here Here, I second that. Thanks El-Monty. Have the points been added as yet, as I've not been keeping a recent tally of my points score?! Thanks again.
I follow the comments, an I have to add that I really like multiple puzzles
Quote from: Djetset on March 18, 2019, 10:21:22 AM
Here Here, I second that. Thanks El-Monty. Have the points been added as yet, as I've not been keeping a recent tally of my points score?! Thanks again.
Yes, I added the points as they were solved. I prefer to do that rather than to wait till it's completely solved, because sometimes it has happened to me when I've played that I solved one or two answers in a group puzzle and then I had to wait a long time to actually get the points because the puzzle stayed incomplete for months.
OK, thanks Monty, and well done again for an enjoyable Puzzle ;).