Solved: PN #1231 -- Renault-Scemia PN by Di Rosa&Pastre, 1926

[pnegyesi]

Please identify both chassis and coachbuilder for a point

[marmer]

1927-ish Renault PN. Body by Société des transports en commun de la région parisienne (STCRP).

[pnegyesi]

marmer - it is a 1926 Renault PN. Coachbuilder is not that one. Locked for you for 3 attempts

[marmer]

I should have looked more closely!  Schneider H.

[pnegyesi]

no

[marmer]

Really?  Doesn't it say Schneider and H on the placards on top?  I'll keep looking.

[marmer]

Never mind.  Had to read a little French.

SCEMIA.  La Société de construction et d'entretien de matériel industriel et agricole.

[pnegyesi]

SCEMIA was involved in the chassis, but it was not the coachbuilder. One more attempt before I unlock

[marmer]

Uhry Imre?   Found a mention of them using Renault chassis in 1926.

[pnegyesi]

no, it was a French coachbuilder. One last try before I unlock

[marmer]

Currus? Weymann? (they didn't really do buses until later, I thought.). SOMUA? Everything I'm finding is saying SCEMIA or STCRP built them.  Although that doesn't look exactly like the usual Renault PN.  Could it be an older De Dion body on a prototype chassis?

[pnegyesi]

Unlocked and moved

[marmer]

Not Paris, therefore not STRCP.  That may be the issue.  Checking other French coach builders now.

[marmer]

All right, I am sorry to keep bashing on this, but I still cling to the thought that this is a Scemia body.  The script on the placard on the roof is obviously the Scemia logo of the period, and the name "Renault" can be seen faintly in the background, maybe on a building or wall.  This does not look exactly like the bus shown in the "Ville de Paris" Renault Scemia advertisement, but I have seen in several sources that the PN was a collaboration between Renault and Scemia, with no other coach builder involved.  Additionally, I have seen that Toulouse put Renault-Scemias into service in 1926, which might explain why it has detail differences from the Paris versions.  I think this is a prototype or early production Renault-Scemia PN for Toulouse, not Paris, with no STCRP involvement (hence no diamond logo on the front).

[pnegyesi]

Yes, it is a Renault-Scemia PN, but there was a coachbuilder involved

[marmer]

Million-Guiet?

[pnegyesi]

no

[pnegyesi]

Professionals?

[Oguerrerob]

Ateliers Villetaneuse?

[pnegyesi]

no

[gte4289]

Carrosserie Di Rosa et Pastre

[pnegyesi]

I am feeling generous today so both marmer and gte gets a point each and I declare this puzzle to be solved