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Title: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 01:58:28 PM
During the Easter days I've had some spare time to arrange a new group puzzle of the mind-bending kind. Following the "Rust never sleeps" theme as well as the Carchitecture theme of previous group puzzles of mine, all you have to do is to find a connection between one of the more or less rusty cars in the first section, connect it with one of the pieces of architecture in the second section, and finally link that pair to one of the pictures in the Extra section. One point for each triple combination found, no lock for just identifying a single picture. Have fun!

The first ten cars:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:00:32 PM
Ten more cars:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:01:53 PM
The last six cars:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:03:41 PM
Architecture, first part:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:05:41 PM
Architecture, second part:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:07:01 PM
Last bits of architecture:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
Extras, first batch:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
Extras, second batch:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:11:37 PM
Extras, last batch:
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2019, 02:12:01 PM
The solutions:
A-7-m: La Panthère - Black Panther Graz - Panther Range Rover (oko94)
B-16-b: La Salle - La Salle College Singapore - La Salle's birth house in Rouen (oko94)
C-13-t: Georges Irat Labourdette - La Sapinière in Le Vesinet - Voiture du Bled (luisps)
D-21-o: Datsun Violet 160 J SSS - Maison Violet - Sunswift Violet (oko94)
E 15-z: Jowett Jupiter by Farr - Farr Building, Allentown - Robert Ellison (Tom_I)
F-26-h: Stimson Scorcher - Stimson Memorial Hall in Gray, Maine - Tamiya Sand Scorcher (Rusty Chrome)
G-1-a: Sinpar Castor - Castor and Pollux temple in Agrigent - Castor transport (oko94)
H-6-e: Peugeot 203 Surirey - Surirey-Jagou - Michel Surirey (Tom_I)
I-24-x: F.A.T.A. Aurea - Domus Aurea - Ferrotaie (ropat53)
J-3-k: Perho-Pudnik - Perho church - Institec Justicialista (ropat53)
K-17-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - Camille Walala's Dream Come True Building - UAZ by HICOX (ropat53)
L-10-v: Fiat 1500 Juventus - Juventus Torino headquarters - Autobianchi A 112 Juventus (Tom_I)
M-5-i: Cannon Trial Car - Cannon House, Washington D.C. - Cannon's Lincoln Continental (Tom_I)
N-14-l: Renault 12 Camargue - Musée de la Camargue - Sbarro Rolls-Royce Camargue hunting car (oko94)
O-9-n: Hanomag 3/16 PS - Hanomag factory - Komatsu 2 ton (Tom_I)
P-25-y: Amilcar Type M - Amilcar factory in Saint-Denis - Isadora Duncan (barrett)
Q-18-u: Champion 500 G - Champion Tower, Bnei Brak - Tempo Wiking (Rusty Chrome)
R-20-p: Crosley special - Crosley Building - Crosley Fiver Roamio (pnegyesi)
S-2-j: Thomas Rocket - St. Thomas Tower in Malta - Aqua-Cheetah (ropat53)
T-23-g: Morrison Electricar - Morrison Bridge in Portland - Van Morrison (Rusty Chrome)
U-19-r: OM 32 Autocaretta - Om Ashram - OM forklift (luisps)
V-4-w: ATLA - Flaminio Bertoni's tomb in Antony - Vega toy car (oko94)
W-12-s: Corwin Getaway - Ferguson unit from the movie "The Getaway" - Norwegian Getaway (oko94)
X-8-d: HB Steam Car - Hofbräuhaus Munich - Thomas Hill shunting engine (Tom_I)
Y-11-c: Lucas Electric Taxi - The Lucas, Boston - Bedford Lucas Electric CF-E (oko94)
Z-22-f: Galy Vibel - Hôtel de Galy - Avenue Niel in Paris (barrett)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Fёdor on April 22, 2019, 11:23:39 PM
№9 F.A.T.A. Aurea
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2019, 02:13:27 AM
Yes, the ninth car, which is Car I, is a FATA Aurea. Now you have to find a building and an extra connected anyhow to this car.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: kwgibbs on April 23, 2019, 09:40:28 AM
was the 10th car (Perho-Pudnik) from the first section?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2019, 10:10:38 AM
We have 26 cars (pictures named Carchitextra Car A to Z) in the first three posts. Each one of those has to be paired with one of the 26 buildings (pictures named Carchitextra Architecture 1 to 26) in the next three posts. And each of these 26 pairs has to be combined with one of the 26 pictures (named Carchitextra Extra a to z) from the last three initial posts. So in the end we will have 26 combinations, for example B-17-f, as solutions. I hope the puzzle arrangement is a bit clearer now.

Car J is the Perho-Pudnik.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: max on April 26, 2019, 05:04:12 PM
Amilcar Type M as car P, a street corner in Saint Denis (maybe) as extra B, Isadora Duncan (never) as extra Y
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
Well, that is something to start with. Car P is indeed an Amilcar Type M and Extra y is Isadora Duncan (who lost her life in an Amilcar, the scarf, you know). What's missing is the Architecture part, i.e. one of those pictures captioned Carchitextra Architecture 1 to 26. But, since you've got two out of three right, I place a lock for you on that combination P-?-y.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: barrett on April 29, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
Puzzles like this make my brain hurt. I'm going to have a go at one:

Car Z is the Galy Vibel

Galy was an offshoot of Forges et Ateliers de la Fournaise (I think), who at one point had premises in boulevard Anatole in St Denis, Architecture 25

The Galy company itself was based on avenue Niel, Paris - Extra F

So: Z - 25 - F
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2019, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: barrett on April 29, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
Puzzles like this make my brain hurt.
That was my intention.  >:D
Quote from: barrett on April 29, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
I'm going to have a go at one:

Car Z is the Galy Vibel

Galy was an offshoot of Forges et Ateliers de la Fournaise (I think), who at one point had premises in boulevard Anatole in St Denis, Architecture 25

The Galy company itself was based on avenue Niel, Paris - Extra F

So: Z - 25 - F
Oh my! You are right on all accounts, but you found the (hopefully) only weak spot in this puzzle. Car Z is correct, and Extra f is the fitting third part. But although Architecture 25 is correctly identified by you, it was meant to belong to another combination, as it housed several companies during its existence. So you have to find another piece of architecture connected to the Galy. And with respect to your reasonable guess, I'll give the hint that the connection is purely by name. The combination Z-?-f is obviously locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: barrett on April 30, 2019, 06:46:55 AM
I thought that might be the case! I am at a total loss now, though...
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 30, 2019, 08:57:28 AM
Don't give up, it's not that difficult to find.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: barrett on April 30, 2019, 11:49:18 AM
Neither 'Galy' nor 'Vibel' seem to exist anywhere except attached to that car. Is it a spelling variation on one of those? For example, there is an avenue Gally, and even a town of Gally... nothing that matches with the images though!

Annoyingly I have 2/3 of at least one other, but finding the third part is a nightmare!

When does Max's lock end, by the way?  ;)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 30, 2019, 12:03:04 PM
Galy, without any variation of spelling, is (the main) part of the building's name. Keep on looking.

I think, max had his time. Now I will unlock P-?-y, so that you can have a go at it.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: barrett on April 30, 2019, 12:26:37 PM
Okay, architecture 22 is the Hotel Galy in Aveyron
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: barrett on April 30, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
Is architecture 25 the missing link between Isadora and the Amilcar? Amilcar also used these premises as a factory
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on April 30, 2019, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: barrett on April 30, 2019, 12:26:37 PM
Okay, architecture 22 is the Hotel Galy in Aveyron
Yes, the Hôtel de Galy in Millau in the Aveyron department. So Z-22-f is the first correct combination.

Quote from: barrett on April 30, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
Is architecture 25 the missing link between Isadora and the Amilcar? Amilcar also used these premises as a factory
Yes, of course. That makes P-25-y the second combination found.
Well done. The points will be awarded at the end of the puzzle.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: targhediferro on May 08, 2019, 07:32:12 AM
S - should be the Thomas Rocket car, built in Batavia in 1938 by Charles Thomas e Norm Richardson.
2 - is St.Thomas Tower in Malta
d - could be a Thomas Hill Steam Machine from Rotherham
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 08, 2019, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 08, 2019, 07:32:12 AM
S - should be the Thomas Rocket car, built in Batavia in 1938 by Charles Thomas e Norm Richardson.
2 - is St.Thomas Tower in Malta
d - could be a Thomas Hill Steam Machine from Rotherham
You are right on all three identifications, congratulations. Car S and Architecture 2 do pair, but the connection to the missing Extra is closer than just by name. Unfortunately I didn't notice the possibility to link Extra d to S-2. Anyhow, the combination S-2-? is locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 14, 2019, 05:19:15 PM
F = Stimson Scorcher, designed by Barry Stimson
26 = Stimson Memorial  Hall, Gray, Maine
h = Bajabug - usually a modified VW, Barry Stimson's contribution towards the Bug craze was the Stimson Mini Bug based around a Mini

So F - 26 - h
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 02:31:40 AM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome on May 14, 2019, 05:19:15 PM
F = Stimson Scorcher, designed by Barry Stimson
26 = Stimson Memorial  Hall, Gray, Maine
h = Bajabug - usually a modified VW, Barry Stimson's contribution towards the Bug craze was the Stimson Mini Bug based around a Mini

So F - 26 - h
F-26-h is the correct combination, F and 26 are correctly identified, but I need a little bit more information about h, as the connection is a bit closer than the one you mentioned. Locked for you of course.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 08, 2019, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 08, 2019, 07:32:12 AM
S - should be the Thomas Rocket car, built in Batavia in 1938 by Charles Thomas e Norm Richardson.
2 - is St.Thomas Tower in Malta
d - could be a Thomas Hill Steam Machine from Rotherham
You are right on all three identifications, congratulations. Car S and Architecture 2 do pair, but the connection to the missing Extra is closer than just by name. Unfortunately I didn't notice the possibility to link Extra d to S-2. Anyhow, the combination S-2-? is locked for you.
Any ideas, targhediferro? I'll unlock soon.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: targhediferro on May 15, 2019, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 08, 2019, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 08, 2019, 07:32:12 AM
S - should be the Thomas Rocket car, built in Batavia in 1938 by Charles Thomas e Norm Richardson.
2 - is St.Thomas Tower in Malta
d - could be a Thomas Hill Steam Machine from Rotherham
You are right on all three identifications, congratulations. Car S and Architecture 2 do pair, but the connection to the missing Extra is closer than just by name. Unfortunately I didn't notice the possibility to link Extra d to S-2. Anyhow, the combination S-2-? is locked for you.
Any ideas, targhediferro? I'll unlock soon.

Unlock....I have no further ideas.

Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 04:41:05 AM
S-2-? unlocked
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 15, 2019, 06:50:55 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 02:31:40 AM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome on May 14, 2019, 05:19:15 PM
F = Stimson Scorcher, designed by Barry Stimson
26 = Stimson Memorial  Hall, Gray, Maine
h = Bajabug - usually a modified VW, Barry Stimson's contribution towards the Bug craze was the Stimson Mini Bug based around a Mini

So F - 26 - h
F-26-h is the correct combination, F and 26 are correctly identified, but I need a little bit more information about h, as the connection is a bit closer than the one you mentioned. Locked for you of course.

Is it that Barry Stimson himself said that he decided to design the Mini Bug after seeing a Meyers Manx beach buggy in 1968. The beach buggy led to the Baja Bug as a cheaper alternative?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 07:27:03 AM
No, the connection lies within the pictured Bajabug.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 15, 2019, 09:12:11 AM
The Baja Bug in the photo is a replica of the Tamiya Sand Scorcher R/C model alongside - sharing the Scorcher name with the Stimpson creation?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 09:27:30 AM
That's it!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 19, 2019, 08:20:46 AM
I think I've got another one.

Q = Champion 500G estate car
18 = The Champion Motors Tower, Bnei Brak, Israel
u = Tempo Wiking pick up - Powered by the same 452cc twin cylinder 2 stroke Heinkel engine as the Champion

Q - 18 - u
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 19, 2019, 08:30:22 AM
Very good!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 25, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
T = 1948 Mossison Electricar milk float

23 = The Morrison Bridge in Portland

o = The Thyssenkrupp SunRiser electric car

T - 23 - o
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 26, 2019, 02:55:24 AM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome on May 25, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
T = 1948 Mossison Electricar milk float

23 = The Morrison Bridge in Portland

o = The Thyssenkrupp SunRiser electric car

T - 23 - o
You have correctly identified T and 23 (except for the typo), they are of course connected. But neither is o the Thyssenkrupp SunRiser, nor is it connected to T-23.
T-23-? locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Rusty Chrome on May 26, 2019, 10:22:02 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 26, 2019, 02:55:24 AM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome on May 25, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
T = 1948 Mossison Electricar milk float

23 = The Morrison Bridge in Portland

o = The Thyssenkrupp SunRiser electric car

T - 23 - o
You have correctly identified T and 23 (except for the typo), they are of course connected. But neither is o the Thyssenkrupp SunRiser, nor is it connected to T-23.
T-23-? locked for you.

I've got it! All the time I was thinking what on earth was the link in the 'extras' to Jim Morrison as of all the famous Morrisons it had to be something to do with him. The only musical thing was image g , but although its a pretty ropey picture, even on a bad night it looked nothing like Jim Morrison. Then, as I was trying to identify one of the other pictures as Morrison something, Van Morrison came up, the light shone and very quickly I found the cover of his album 'This is where I came in'.

So it's T - 23 - g
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on May 26, 2019, 12:28:08 PM
Well done! Jim Morrison would have been to easy, wouldn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 09, 2019, 02:42:34 AM
up again

Until further notice there will be a restriction at pro level: You are only allowed to have a guess at one car within 24 hours. During that time span you can ask further questions concerning that car and its Architecture and Extra combination. But if you want to have a go at another car, you'll have to wait until the 24 hours since your first question about the previous car have passed.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 09, 2019, 04:51:22 AM
I: F.A.T.A. Aurea
5: Domus Aurea
how am I doing so far? Is the extra also related to the Aurea name?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 09, 2019, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 09, 2019, 04:51:22 AM
I: F.A.T.A. Aurea
5: Domus Aurea
how am I doing so far? Is the extra also related to the Aurea name?
So far, so good. The extra has another connection though.

I-5-? locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 09, 2019, 06:05:39 AM
is the connection related to Ceirano?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 09, 2019, 06:24:48 AM
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 09, 2019, 10:07:23 AM
is there a connection to Nero?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 09, 2019, 12:29:17 PM
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 06:39:43 AM
Is there a connection to Turin?

(BTW I have another car and an extra identified, can I reveal these and ask a question or only once I finish the current one?)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 06:39:43 AM
Is there a connection to Turin?
No

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 06:39:43 AM
(BTW I have another car and an extra identified, can I reveal these and ask a question or only once I finish the current one?)
Just go ahead, the 24 hours refer to the start of an attempt at a new combination. Once started you can have a try at all your combinations you are already working at. Initially I wanted to avoid that somebody answers for most of the combinations at once, before anybody else can join in. But that doesn't seem to be the case. So I'll probably lift that restriction soon.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 07:55:41 AM
Oops, you have set up one just for me,
Car K is the Hungarian Dream, built by Mátyás Borlóy, extra q is the UAZ-based jeep in the workshop of HICOX, a company set up by him.

I assume the architecture connection is about HICOX, right?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 07:56:11 AM
is the connection about one of the engineers at FATA?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 07:55:41 AM
Oops, you have set up one just for me,
Car K is the Hungarian Dream, built by Mátyás Borlóy, extra q is the UAZ-based jeep in the workshop of HICOX, a company set up by him.
Yes, combination K-?-q locked for you

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 07:55:41 AM
I assume the architecture connection is about HICOX, right?
No, the architecture connection is far-flung.

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 07:56:11 AM
is the connection about one of the engineers at FATA?
No, but getting closer
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 11:25:31 AM
is the Aurea connection about the cars in Australia?

is the HICOX/Borloy connection related to the name, Borloy?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 11:35:57 AM
Let's move another one a bit
Car R is claimed to be a 1959 Crosley based special from Sacramento, CA. Builder is unknown. I assume architecture is also from Sacramento, right?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 11:25:31 AM
is the Aurea connection about the cars in Australia?

is the HICOX/Borloy connection related to the name, Borloy?
Twice no
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 11:35:57 AM
Let's move another one a bit
Car R is claimed to be a 1959 Crosley based special from Sacramento, CA. Builder is unknown. I assume architecture is also from Sacramento, right?
Well, let's forget about the 24-hour restriction.
Car R is a Crosley special, but the architecture connection is not Sacramento. No lock for that.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 11:35:57 AM
Let's move another one a bit
Car R is claimed to be a 1959 Crosley based special from Sacramento, CA. Builder is unknown. I assume architecture is also from Sacramento, right?
Well, let's forget about the 24-hour restriction.
Car R is a Crosley special, but the architecture connection is not Sacramento. No lock for that.

Architecture 20 is the Crosley building
while at it, could extra P be a Crosley radio?


I would like to encourage others to jump in.

And Wendax, if you wish, I can stop :)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
Regarding the HICOX/Borloy thing, is there a Trabant connection?

Regarding Aurea - is there a connection with Nazzaro and the building both companies occupied?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 01:26:23 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
Architecture 20 is the Crosley building
while at it, could extra P be a Crosley radio?
Yes, R-20-p is the right combination. The Crosley radio is a Crosley Fiver Roamio, to whom it may concern.

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
I would like to encourage others to jump in.

And Wendax, if you wish, I can stop :)
It is okay for me, if you work yourself through this puzzle. I just wouldn't have liked to see the puzzle gone within minutes at pro level, as it takes a lot of time to collect ideas and pictures, as well as design the puzzle. I also would like to encourage other pro puzzlers to join in, although I know that this kind of puzzle doesn't fascinate everyone. Tom_I and Ehhxekt, where are you?  :)

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
Regarding the HICOX/Borloy thing, is there a Trabant connection?

Regarding Aurea - is there a connection with Nazzaro and the building both companies occupied?
Twice no
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 01:38:34 PM
Regarding Aurea - is "gold" the connection?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Extra T is a Georges Irat Voiture du Bled. Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 10, 2019, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 01:26:23 PM
I also would like to encourage other pro puzzlers to join in, although I know that this kind of puzzle doesn't fascinate everyone. Tom_I and Ehhxekt, where are you?  :)

Well, I'm lurking in the background. I haven't visited much recently, but spotted this puzzle yesterday, though I 'm not making much progress yet, other than with things that have already been solved.

But to try and make a start, being of a certain age, I recognise Extra i as overweight private detective Frank Cannon (played by William Conrad), and his Lincoln Continental, from the American TV series "Cannon", first shown in the 1970s. I think the architecture link is with 5, the rotunda in the Cannon House office building in Washington DC (though there seems to be a mistake somewhere, as the "answers" post has 5 as the Domus Aurea, which I think is a different picture).

But the car link is the problem. I thought I had found a Hotchkiss, which would have fitted, but it has already been identified as an Amilcar. So all I have at the moment is the possibility that Car M could be the bodyshell of a Mike Cannon trials car, but it's a bit of a guess.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
Car N : Renault 12 Camargue
Extra L : Rolls Royce Camargue by Sbarro
Is the architectural connection the Camargue region ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 01:38:34 PM
Regarding Aurea - is "gold" the connection?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Extra T is a Georges Irat Voiture du Bled.
Correct, but no lock for this.

Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
No, but close
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 10, 2019, 02:35:56 PM
Well, I'm lurking in the background. I haven't visited much recently, but spotted this puzzle yesterday, though I 'm not making much progress yet, other than with things that have already been solved.

But to try and make a start, being of a certain age, I recognise Extra i as overweight private detective Frank Cannon (played by William Conrad), and his Lincoln Continental, from the American TV series "Cannon", first shown in the 1970s. I think the architecture link is with 5, the rotunda in the Cannon House office building in Washington DC (though there seems to be a mistake somewhere, as the "answers" post has 5 as the Domus Aurea, which I think is a different picture).

But the car link is the problem. I thought I had found a Hotchkiss, which would have fitted, but it has already been identified as an Amilcar. So all I have at the moment is the possibility that Car M could be the bodyshell of a Mike Cannon trials car, but it's a bit of a guess.
Your right twice: at first I made a mistake and didn't check the number for Domus Aurea. So, the Fata Aurea is unlocked again now.
Secondly, the combination M-5-i is absolutely correct and perfectly identified, as car M is indeed a Cannon trials car bodyshell.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
Car N : Renault 12 Camargue
Extra L : Rolls Royce Camargue by Sbarro
Correct, combination N-?-l locked for you.

Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
Is the architectural connection the Camargue region ?
Yes
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
Is Domus Aurea, the Nr1 architecture? And is there a connection to Aurea racing?
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
Car W : Corwin Getaway.
Architecture 12 : Ferguson Unit, 12120 Savage Drive, Midway, Texas, United States, as shown in 1972 "The Getaway" movie.
Extra N : Ferguson tractor ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
Is Domus Aurea, the Nr1 architecture? And is there a connection to Aurea racing?
Twice no
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:54:59 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
Car W : Corwin Getaway.
Architecture 12 : Ferguson Unit, 12120 Savage Drive, Midway, Texas, United States, as shown in 1972 "The Getaway" movie.
Extra N : Ferguson tractor ?
Car W and Architecture 12 correct, so combination W-12-? locked for you.
Extra n is not a Ferguson tractor.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
Is Domus Aurea Nr19?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
About N-?-l :

Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
Is the architectural connection the Camargue region ?
Yes

Is the architectural connection a building in the city of Arles ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:54:59 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
Car W : Corwin Getaway.
Architecture 12 : Ferguson Unit, 12120 Savage Drive, Midway, Texas, United States, as shown in 1972 "The Getaway" movie.
Extra N : Ferguson tractor ?
Car W and Architecture 12 correct, so combination W-12-? locked for you.
Extra n is not a Ferguson tractor.

Is "Ferguson" the connection though ?

Let's try something : Extra C is Prince Philip with his Bedford Lucas Electric van, and Sarah Ferguson married Prince Philip's son.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 10, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
Is Domus Aurea Nr19?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
About N-?-l :
Is the architectural connection a building in the city of Arles ?
Yes
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
Car W and Architecture 12 correct, so combination W-12-? locked for you.
Extra n is not a Ferguson tractor.

Is "Ferguson" the connection though ?
[/quote]
No

Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
Let's try something : Extra C is Prince Philip with his Bedford Lucas Electric van, and Sarah Ferguson married Prince Philip's son.
Yes, no lock for this.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
About N-?-l :
Is the architectural connection a building in the city of Arles ?
Yes

Was that building built after 1900 ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 02:25:39 AM
I don't know.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 05:01:27 AM
Is the building in Arles represented as a drawing in this puzzle ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 06:19:28 AM
Quaerite et invenietis! It is not as difficult as you might think.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 08:25:44 AM
I've spent hours browsing Arles pictures and nothing came out. Architecture 10 looks a bit like Les Ateliers / LUMA area but I couldn't find this very place. Am I close ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 08:55:41 AM
No, look at the car and the extra of this combination. Then you should have part of the building's name.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
N-14-l

Architecture 14 : this nondescript shed is the Camargue museum in Arles. Thanks for your help !
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 09:32:37 AM
Y-11-c : Lucas electric taxi - The Lucas in Boston - Bedford Lucas Electric
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
N-14-l

Architecture 14 : this nondescript shed is the Camargue museum in Arles. Thanks for your help !
Yes

Quote from: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 09:32:37 AM
Y-11-c : Lucas electric taxi - The Lucas in Boston - Bedford Lucas Electric
And another one solved.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
W-12-? : is Cliff Hall the connection ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 11, 2019, 02:39:38 PM
For today's attempt I'll try H-6-e, where I think the link is the name Surirey.

If you google "Peugeot 403 ambulance", which is what H looks to be, the name crops up as a coachbuilder in Flers, Normandy. It seems that they did some car bodies, but were more concerned with station wagons and commercial vehicles, and made something of a speciality of ambulance conversions.

Googling the name on its own soon brings up Extra e, a paratrooper called Michel Surirey, standing on a Simca Ariane, which is itself balancing on two wheels, being driven by a stuntman called Jean Sunny, who is described as "world champion of motor acrobatics". Photo taken in the Bois de Boulogne, Paris in 1959.

It also brings up Architecture 6, which leads to the website of a company called Surirey Jagou. As this was founded in 1939, and has the same address as the ambulance converter, I'd guess it's the same firm, though now a specialist metalworking company rather than a coachbuilder. 6 is part of their offices at 18 Rue du Parc, Flers.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 04:32:35 PM
G-1-?

Car G : Renault Estafette Castor by Sinpar.
Architecture 1 : Temple of Castor and Pollux, Agrigento, Sicily.

Is "Castor" the connection for the extra ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
W-12-? : is Cliff Hall the connection ?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 11, 2019, 02:39:38 PM
For today's attempt I'll try H-6-e, where I think the link is the name Surirey.

If you google "Peugeot 403 ambulance", which is what H looks to be, the name crops up as a coachbuilder in Flers, Normandy. It seems that they did some car bodies, but were more concerned with station wagons and commercial vehicles, and made something of a speciality of ambulance conversions.

Googling the name on its own soon brings up Extra e, a paratrooper called Michel Surirey, standing on a Simca Ariane, which is itself balancing on two wheels, being driven by a stuntman called Jean Sunny, who is described as "world champion of motor acrobatics". Photo taken in the Bois de Boulogne, Paris in 1959.

It also brings up Architecture 6, which leads to the website of a company called Surirey Jagou. As this was founded in 1939, and has the same address as the ambulance converter, I'd guess it's the same firm, though now a specialist metalworking company rather than a coachbuilder. 6 is part of their offices at 18 Rue du Parc, Flers.
A perfect answer!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 11, 2019, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 11, 2019, 04:32:35 PM
G-1-?

Car G : Renault Estafette Castor by Sinpar.
Architecture 1 : Temple of Castor and Pollux, Agrigento, Sicily.

Is "Castor" the connection for the extra ?
So far correct. Combination G-1-? locked for you, and Castor is a good idea to follow.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:08:21 PM
Should have done more work. Architecture 24 is the Domus Aurea.

is the connection about one of the engineers at FATA?
No, but getting closer"

This is very enigmatic. So is it about one of the founders of FATA?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
"K-?-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - ? - UAZ by HICOX (Locked for pnegyesi)"

Is the connection is about a Dream? Like a Dream Palace?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:44 AM
W-12-? : is the connection related to The Getaway movie ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 01:57:16 AM
G-1-? : is Extra S a cruise ship operated by Castor Shipping ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:39:16 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:08:21 PM
Should have done more work. Architecture 24 is the Domus Aurea.

is the connection about one of the engineers at FATA?
No, but getting closer"

This is very enigmatic. So is it about one of the founders of FATA?
Now you've found Domus Aurea I-24-? will be locked again for you.
It is not about a person, rather about the car and the company.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
"K-?-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - ? - UAZ by HICOX (Locked for pnegyesi)"

Is the connection is about a Dream? Like a Dream Palace?
Yes
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:41:27 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:44 AM
W-12-? : is the connection related to The Getaway movie ?
It is related to the movie as much as to the car, but much doesn't have to mean much.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:42:51 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 01:57:16 AM
G-1-? : is Extra S a cruise ship operated by Castor Shipping ?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 11:55:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:41:27 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 01:45:44 AM
W-12-? : is the connection related to The Getaway movie ?
It is related to the movie as much as to the car, but much doesn't have to mean much.

So is the connection related to the concept of "getting away" ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:17:21 PM
Yes, even more specific
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:03:27 PM
G-1-a

Extra A : Castor Transport (Cask for Storage and Transport of Radioactive material)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:07:06 PM
D-21-?

Car D : Nissan/Datsun Violet.
Architecture 21 : Fabrique de parfums et savons de toilette de la maison Violet, Saint-Denis.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
W-12-s

Extra S : Norwegian Escape cruise ship. Steve McQueen starred in both The Great Escape and The Getaway movies.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 12, 2019, 04:33:53 PM
I'm not certain about this one but I'll try O-9-n.

I think Car O is a Hanomag, maybe a 3/16 PS, but I could be wrong. The architecture link would be with 9, the ex-Hanomag factory in Hanover, which I'm sure has appeared here before.

The problem has been finding an extra. I know that Hanomag was progressively taken over by the Japanese Komatsu corporation, who now occupy the Hanover building, but that didn't seem to help until I browsed the "history" section of Komatsu's website. There it says that they produced Japan's first agricultural tractor in 1931, and the picture is Extra n. That surprised me, as I assumed n was a Caterpillar 2-ton crawler - it certainly looks just like one. I haven't found any mention of a licensing agreement, so did they just make a blatant copy of the Caterpillar, like some Japanese camera manufacturers made literal copies of Leica and Rolleiflex models?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:03:27 PM
G-1-a

Extra A : Castor Transport (Cask for Storage and Transport of Radioactive material)
That's the missing bit.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:07:06 PM
D-21-?

Car D : Nissan/Datsun Violet.
Architecture 21 : Fabrique de parfums et savons de toilette de la maison Violet, Saint-Denis.
Yes, the car is a Datsun Violet 160 J SSS, the building is correctly identified. Combination D-21-? locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
W-12-s

Extra S : Norwegian Escape cruise ship. Steve McQueen starred in both The Great Escape and The Getaway movies.
You are almost there. The ship (Extra s) is not the Norwegian Escape, but the ...
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 12, 2019, 04:33:53 PM
I'm not certain about this one but I'll try O-9-n.

I think Car O is a Hanomag, maybe a 3/16 PS, but I could be wrong. The architecture link would be with 9, the ex-Hanomag factory in Hanover, which I'm sure has appeared here before.

The problem has been finding an extra. I know that Hanomag was progressively taken over by the Japanese Komatsu corporation, who now occupy the Hanover building, but that didn't seem to help until I browsed the "history" section of Komatsu's website. There it says that they produced Japan's first agricultural tractor in 1931, and the picture is Extra n. That surprised me, as I assumed n was a Caterpillar 2-ton crawler - it certainly looks just like one. I haven't found any mention of a licensing agreement, so did they just make a blatant copy of the Caterpillar, like some Japanese camera manufacturers made literal copies of Leica and Rolleiflex models?
Another perfect answer. The Hanomag factory building is even called Komatsu-Halle nowadays.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:04:29 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
W-12-s

Extra S : Norwegian Escape cruise ship. Steve McQueen starred in both The Great Escape and The Getaway movies.
You are almost there. The ship (Extra s) is not the Norwegian Escape, but the ...

Indeed, this is the Norwegian Getaway. It looks pretty much like the Norwegian Escape apart from the paint scheme.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:07:06 PM
D-21-?

Car D : Nissan/Datsun Violet.
Architecture 21 : Fabrique de parfums et savons de toilette de la maison Violet, Saint-Denis.
Yes, the car is a Datsun Violet 160 J SSS, the building is correctly identified. Combination D-21-? locked for you.

D-21-o

Extra O : Sunswift Violet.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:14:28 PM
B-16-b

Car B : La Salle.
Architecture 16 : LASALLE College of the Arts, Singapore.
Extra B : corner of rue du Bec and rue du Gros Horloge in Rouen, where there is a commemorative plaque dedicated to Robert Cavelier de la Salle.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 12, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
"K-?-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - ? - UAZ by HICOX (Locked for pnegyesi)"

Is the connection is about a Dream? Like a Dream Palace?
Yes

Is it from a real estate company, named Dream?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 02:15:44 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:04:29 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
W-12-s

Extra S : Norwegian Escape cruise ship. Steve McQueen starred in both The Great Escape and The Getaway movies.
You are almost there. The ship (Extra s) is not the Norwegian Escape, but the ...

Indeed, this is the Norwegian Getaway. It looks pretty much like the Norwegian Escape apart from the paint scheme.
That's the one.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 02:17:58 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 04:07:06 PM
D-21-?

Car D : Nissan/Datsun Violet.
Architecture 21 : Fabrique de parfums et savons de toilette de la maison Violet, Saint-Denis.
Yes, the car is a Datsun Violet 160 J SSS, the building is correctly identified. Combination D-21-? locked for you.

D-21-o

Extra O : Sunswift Violet.
Yes again. I like the name chosen for the solar cars from the University of New South Wales: Sunswift.  :)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 02:23:12 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 12, 2019, 05:14:28 PM
B-16-b

Car B : La Salle.
Architecture 16 : LASALLE College of the Arts, Singapore.
Extra B : corner of rue du Bec and rue du Gros Horloge in Rouen, where there is a commemorative plaque dedicated to Robert Cavelier de la Salle.
Right again, the car is a 1930 La Salle. The corner in Rouen is where La Salle's birth house stood.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 02:23:52 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 12, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
"K-?-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - ? - UAZ by HICOX (Locked for pnegyesi)"

Is the connection is about a Dream? Like a Dream Palace?
Yes

Is it from a real estate company, named Dream?
No, it is the house itself.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2019, 05:50:11 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 02:23:52 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 12, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2019, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on June 11, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
"K-?-q: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream) - ? - UAZ by HICOX (Locked for pnegyesi)"

Is the connection is about a Dream? Like a Dream Palace?
Yes

Is it from a real estate company, named Dream?
No, it is the house itself.

Is it in English, so is it Dream ...?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 06:32:00 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 13, 2019, 08:49:20 AM
Let's try L-10-v.

L is an early Fiat 1300/1500, and v is an Autobianchi A112. Both of these, at some time in their lives, had a variant called "Juventus".

Architecture 10 is the fairly new headquarters building of the Juventus football club in Turin, opened in 2017.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 13, 2019, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 13, 2019, 08:49:20 AM
Let's try L-10-v.

L is an early Fiat 1300/1500, and v is an Autobianchi A112. Both of these, at some time in their lives, had a variant called "Juventus".

Architecture 10 is the fairly new headquarters building of the Juventus football club in Turin, opened in 2017.
You certainly like the harder ones. Well done!
The car is a Fiat 1500 Juventus, the building the Juventus Torino headquarters and the extra is the Autobianchi A112 Juventus.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
?-7-m

Architecture 7 : Black Panther building by GS Architects in Graz.
Extra M : Ranger Rover by Panther.

Is "panther" the connection with the missing car ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
No, but close

Georges Irat was then based in Neuilly. Is Neuilly the architectural connection ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:19:33 PM
Architecture 4 is Flaminio Bertoni's grave in Antony. Was one of the remaining cars built in Antony ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 14, 2019, 02:21:07 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
?-7-m

Architecture 7 : Black Panther building by GS Architects in Graz.
Extra M : Ranger Rover by Panther.

Is "panther" the connection with the missing car ?
Follow that lead. ?-7-m locked for you.

Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
No, but close

Georges Irat was then based in Neuilly. Is Neuilly the architectural connection ?
No

Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:19:33 PM
Architecture 4 is Flaminio Bertoni's grave in Antony.
Yes

Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:19:33 PM
Was one of the remaining cars built in Antony ?
To a certain extent.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 14, 2019, 02:21:07 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
?-7-m

Architecture 7 : Black Panther building by GS Architects in Graz.
Extra M : Ranger Rover by Panther.

Is "panther" the connection with the missing car ?
Follow that lead. ?-7-m locked for you.

Is car A a Panthere ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 06:30:58 AM
Georges Irat ended up in Levallois-Perret. Is Levallois-Perret the architectural connection ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 14, 2019, 02:21:07 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 13, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
?-7-m

Architecture 7 : Black Panther building by GS Architects in Graz.
Extra M : Ranger Rover by Panther.

Is "panther" the connection with the missing car ?
Follow that lead. ?-7-m locked for you.

Is car A a Panthere ?
Yes, another one solved
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 06:30:58 AM
Georges Irat ended up in Levallois-Perret. Is Levallois-Perret the architectural connection ?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
No, but close

Chatou has a common train station with Croissy. Is Croissy the architectural connection ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 15, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
J: Perho-Pudnik; Wartburg platform.
3: Perho Church, Belltower and Famine Memorial.
k: Institec; Wartburg based.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Architecture 8 is Hofbräuhaus am Platzl in Munich. Was the related car built in Munich ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Wendax on June 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 10, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Georges Irat was first based in Chatou. Is Chatou the architectural connection ?
No, but close

Chatou has a common train station with Croissy. Is Croissy the architectural connection ?
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 15, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
J: Perho-Pudnik; Wartburg platform.
3: Perho Church, Belltower and Famine Memorial.
k: Institec; Wartburg based.
Well found!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 04:39:40 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 15, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Architecture 8 is Hofbräuhaus am Platzl in Munich. Was the related car built in Munich ?
Right building, wrong conclusion.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 15, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
I had also spotted the Hofbräuhaus, having been there a few years ago, but had come round to thinking that the initials HB were relevant, rather than Munich. Hofbräuhaus has become an international franchise, and its logo consists of the conjoined letters H and B (as below).

I have spent a lot of time looking at Car X, which looks like a mid-1930s Morris, but with a different radiator, which also looks to have been moved forwards by about 20 to 30 cm. I eventually found some other photos of it, showing that it had been converted to steam power (hence the radiator is actually a condenser). These showed a UK registration number FBP 698, and on checking the DVLA website (UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority), it is registered as "HB Steamer".

So I think Car X and Architecture 8 are linked by the initials "HB", but I am currently unable to link an "Extra" to them.


Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 15, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
I had also spotted the Hofbräuhaus, having been there a few years ago, but had come round to thinking that the initials HB were relevant, rather than Munich. Hofbräuhaus has become an international franchise, and its logo consists of the conjoined letters H and B (as below).

I have spent a lot of time looking at Car X, which looks like a mid-1930s Morris, but with a different radiator, which also looks to have been moved forwards by about 20 to 30 cm. I eventually found some other photos of it, showing that it had been converted to steam power (hence the radiator is actually a condenser). These showed a UK registration number FBP 698, and on checking the DVLA website (UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority), it is registered as "HB Steamer".

So I think Car X and Architecture 8 are linked by the initials "HB", but I am currently unable to link an "Extra" to them.
Well done so far. X-8-? locked for you. Find out more about the car and the extra will be easier to find.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 15, 2019, 07:03:57 PM
S: Thomas Rocket car.
2: St.Thomas Tower Malta.
j: Roger W. Hofheins' Aqua Cheetah. Charles Thomas was chief designer.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Is K-?-q still locked?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 15, 2019, 07:03:57 PM
S: Thomas Rocket car.
2: St.Thomas Tower Malta.
j: Roger W. Hofheins' Aqua Cheetah. Charles Thomas was chief designer.
Correct! The creator of the Thomas Rocket also designed the Aqua-Cheetah.


Quote from: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Is K-?-q still locked?
I think Pal has had his chance and I can unlock I-24-? and K-?-q. Go ahead, Robbie.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: luisps on June 16, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Maybe I've found a connection: U-19-r
U = OM 36 Truck
19 = OM Ashram complex under construction
r = OM forklift
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 05:26:38 AM
Quote from: luisps on June 16, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Maybe I've found a connection: U-19-r
U = OM 36 Truck
19 = OM Ashram complex under construction
r = OM forklift
Well done! Car U is in fact an OM 32 Autocaretta, but that is close enough.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 16, 2019, 05:47:13 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
X-8-? locked for you. Find out more about the car and the extra will be easier to find.

Thanks - that's a generous clue.

So we have X, the HB steam car and 8, the Hofbräuhaus Munich, with its HB logo.

I found an auction listing that says the steam conversion on the HB car was done by a company called Thomas Hill of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, UK in 1938. The Extra should then be d, a diesel-hydraulic shunting engine built in 1963 by the same company, Thomas Hill (Rotherham).
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 16, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Is K-?-q still locked?
I think Pal has had his chance and I can unlock I-24-? and K-?-q. Go ahead, Robbie.

I've found the solution for K-?-q, but as ropat53 was the first to react I'll wait for his next post before giving the solution.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: luisps on June 16, 2019, 01:50:09 PM
I've a solution for C-4-t but the step 4 isn't too clear:
C = Georges Irat OLC3 with Labourdette body after WWII
4 = Flaminio Bertoni's grave, Flaminio Bertoni was the designer of the Citröen 11 and the Georges Irat OLC3
      had the motor and drive system of that car
t = Georges Irat VDB (Voiture du Bled)
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 16, 2019, 05:47:13 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 15, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
X-8-? locked for you. Find out more about the car and the extra will be easier to find.

Thanks - that's a generous clue.

So we have X, the HB steam car and 8, the Hofbräuhaus Munich, with its HB logo.

I found an auction listing that says the steam conversion on the HB car was done by a company called Thomas Hill of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, UK in 1938. The Extra should then be d, a diesel-hydraulic shunting engine built in 1963 by the same company, Thomas Hill (Rotherham).
That's the one.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 16, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Is K-?-q still locked?
I think Pal has had his chance and I can unlock I-24-? and K-?-q. Go ahead, Robbie.

I've found the solution for K-?-q, but as ropat53 was the first to react I'll wait for his next post before giving the solution.
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: luisps on June 16, 2019, 01:50:09 PM
I've a solution for C-4-t but the step 4 isn't too clear:
C = Georges Irat OLC3 with Labourdette body after WWII
4 = Flaminio Bertoni's grave, Flaminio Bertoni was the designer of the Citröen 11 and the Georges Irat OLC3
      had the motor and drive system of that car
t = Georges Irat VDB (Voiture du Bled)
You are right, as Architecture 4 is not the fitting part as I had it in my mind. Anyhow, C-?-t locked for you.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 06:14:21 PM
Quote from: oko94 on June 16, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 16, 2019, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
Is K-?-q still locked?
I think Pal has had his chance and I can unlock I-24-? and K-?-q. Go ahead, Robbie.

I've found the solution for K-?-q, but as ropat53 was the first to react I'll wait for his next post before giving the solution.

Thank you both very much

K: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream)
17: Camille Walala Dream come true
q: UAZ by HICOX
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2019, 02:28:05 AM
Yes, a building in London.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: luisps on June 17, 2019, 04:06:13 AM
There are only two buildings left (13 & 15) that lead me to the solution of the puzzle, but I do not see any relationship with Georges Irat. Does the connection refer to the location or the name of the building?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2019, 04:24:03 AM
Quote from: luisps on June 17, 2019, 04:06:13 AM
There are only two buildings left (13 & 15) that lead me to the solution of the puzzle, but I do not see any relationship with Georges Irat. Does the connection refer to the location or the name of the building?
No, but one of these buildings has a relationship to Georges Irat.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: luisps on June 17, 2019, 05:19:47 AM
13 is "La Sapiniere" where Georges Irat rented a part of the building as his first family home, was at  2 Avenue Corot in Le Vesinet , which is a town near Chatou, place of the first factory of Georges Irat.
So the correct puzzle solution is C-13-t
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2019, 05:28:20 AM
Quote from: luisps on June 17, 2019, 05:19:47 AM
13 is "La Sapiniere" where Georges Irat rented a part of the building as his first family home, was at  2 Avenue Corot in Le Vesinet , which is a town near Chatou, place of the first factory of Georges Irat.
So the correct puzzle solution is C-13-t
Well found! This leaves two cars unidentified.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 17, 2019, 11:47:30 AM
I'm not certain about this one, as I haven't managed to identify the car element, so it's a sort of reverse-engineering job.

I think the combination is E-15-z. Working backwards, Extra z is a 1920s Jowett, and with that and the name on the side of the bonnet, it's possible to identify the man sitting in it as Robert Ellison. He would go on to drive a Jowett Jupiter in the 1952 Monte Carlo Rally - not successfully, as it happens, as he crashed during the event. The car he drove was a coupe with bodywork by J E Farr & Sons of Blackburn, Lancashire.

This seems to be relevant, as Architecture 15 is called the Farr Building in Allentown, Pennsylvania, once a shoe factory and retail outlet, but now mostly up-market apartments.

But the car is the problem. I'm guessing it's E, and bodied by Farr, but I haven't been able to prove it. It's not Ellison's Monte Carlo car, which was restored, and still exists. Is it another Farr-bodied Jupiter? One did come up for sale recently, in need of restoration, but the listing no longer has any pictures. Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong one?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2019, 12:52:31 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 17, 2019, 11:47:30 AM
I'm not certain about this one, as I haven't managed to identify the car element, so it's a sort of reverse-engineering job.

I think the combination is E-15-z. Working backwards, Extra z is a 1920s Jowett, and with that and the name on the side of the bonnet, it's possible to identify the man sitting in it as Robert Ellison. He would go on to drive a Jowett Jupiter in the 1952 Monte Carlo Rally - not successfully, as it happens, as he crashed during the event. The car he drove was a coupe with bodywork by J E Farr & Sons of Blackburn, Lancashire.

This seems to be relevant, as Architecture 15 is called the Farr Building in Allentown, Pennsylvania, once a shoe factory and retail outlet, but now mostly up-market apartments.

But the car is the problem. I'm guessing it's E, and bodied by Farr, but I haven't been able to prove it. It's not Ellison's Monte Carlo car, which was restored, and still exists. Is it another Farr-bodied Jupiter? One did come up for sale recently, in need of restoration, but the listing no longer has any pictures. Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong one?
No, you are right on all accounts. Another one solved.

Now that only one unidentified car, an identified piece of architecture and two unknown extras are left, I will grant no more locks until this puzzle is solved. Last orders, please!
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 17, 2019, 04:13:29 PM
Was the body of Car V built in Antony ?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2019, 04:50:27 PM
Not all of them
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 17, 2019, 09:49:46 PM
I'll give it a try, not sure about x
V: Atla-Panhard made in Antony
4: Flaminio Bertoni's tomb in Antony
x: Atlas coal mine
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2019, 02:30:11 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on June 17, 2019, 09:49:46 PM
I'll give it a try, not sure about x
V: Atla-Panhard made in Antony
4: Flaminio Bertoni's tomb in Antony
x: Atlas coal mine
You are right about Car V and Architecture 4, as well as their connection. x is not the missing part, so it has to be the other one. But tell me why.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 18, 2019, 04:37:05 AM
V-4-w

Extra W : Vega toy car by Jacques Durand of Atla / Sera fame.
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2019, 04:55:11 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 18, 2019, 04:37:05 AM
V-4-w

Extra W : Vega toy car by Jacques Durand of Atla / Sera fame.
Yes, this leaves just Extra x (like unknown  :)) to be identified and tied to I-24. Who will be the first?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 18, 2019, 01:30:00 PM
Is x Fata mine in Romania?
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 18, 2019, 05:34:25 PM
No
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 18, 2019, 09:56:51 PM
I found it
I: F.A.T.A. Aurea - Societa Italiana Ferrotaie (Turin 1920-1922)
24:Domus Aurea
X: Ferrotaie. Società Italiana per materiali siderurgici e ferroviari
Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2019, 02:29:07 AM
Well found, Ferrotaie was the company behind the Aurea car.

Title: Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2019, 02:35:06 AM
That finishes up this puzzle. It was fun to build and fun to see you struggle.  ;D
And it won't be the last one of its kind.

The final scores:
oko94: 8 points
Tom_I: 6 points
ropat53: 4 points
Rusty Chrome: 3 points
luisps: 2 points
barrett: 2 points
pnegyesi: 1 point
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: ropat53 on June 19, 2019, 10:30:32 AM
Thank you Wendax, it's been great fun, very frustrating at times, but enjoyed every moment. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2019, 10:43:50 AM
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
Unfortunately I did not have much time for this, though it was great, great fun
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 19, 2019, 03:31:05 PM
Yes, another superb puzzle - thank you.

Just one thing (as Columbo used to say). Do you have any other pictures of the Farr-bodied Jowett Jupiter (Car E)? I couldn't find any apart from one old photo of the front. I'm assuming it's the car registered FRJ 351.
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: oko94 on June 19, 2019, 03:51:43 PM
Great work Wendax, that was a fun group puzzle !
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2019, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on June 19, 2019, 03:31:05 PM
Yes, another superb puzzle - thank you.

Just one thing (as Columbo used to say). Do you have any other pictures of the Farr-bodied Jowett Jupiter (Car E)? I couldn't find any apart from one old photo of the front. I'm assuming it's the car registered FRJ 351.
Thank you for the flowers! Here you are:
Title: Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
Post by: Tom_I on June 19, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Thanks very much!