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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2019 => Topic started by: Wendax on April 19, 2019, 03:27:25 AM

Title: Solved: Wendax 2872 - M & O Hebel HH 1
Post by: Wendax on April 19, 2019, 03:27:25 AM
There might have been a difference between idea and realization.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2019, 02:20:40 AM
up
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: ChanceHuncha on April 26, 2019, 07:37:43 AM
Is this a Lazer 917 by Elite Enterprises?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2019, 07:51:20 AM
No
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Post by: gilescooperuk on April 29, 2019, 12:43:30 PM
It looks like there are Ferrari badges on the side?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2019, 01:03:47 PM
No Ferrari bits in there.
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: gilescooperuk on April 29, 2019, 01:34:19 PM
I wasn't expecting there to be just observing the badges and what the car could have been intended to look like - if you were registered blind and standing in thick fog...
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2019, 02:28:16 AM
up again
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Post by: Oguerrerob on May 13, 2019, 03:02:47 AM
European?
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Post by: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 03:47:30 AM
German ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2019, 03:50:01 AM
German
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Post by: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 03:54:00 AM
Built between 1970 and 1980 ?
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Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2019, 12:05:17 PM
An 'eigenbau'?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2019, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 03:54:00 AM
Built between 1970 and 1980 ?
No

Quote from: Djetset on May 13, 2019, 12:05:17 PM
An 'eigenbau'?
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
Based on an air-cooled VW I assume (judging by those ATS alloy wheels)?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
Built between 1980 and 1990 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2019, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Djetset on May 13, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
Based on an air-cooled VW I assume (judging by those ATS alloy wheels)?
No

Quote from: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
Built between 1980 and 1990 ?
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: oko94 on May 13, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
German underpinnings ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2019, 05:03:41 PM
Mainly
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Post by: oko94 on May 14, 2019, 03:34:02 AM
Built between 1980 and 1985 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 14, 2019, 06:18:32 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 14, 2019, 06:31:45 AM
Built in 1982 ?
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Post by: Djetset on May 14, 2019, 06:40:47 AM
Are the German mechanicals mainly NSU-based?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 14, 2019, 06:56:23 AM
Quote from: oko94 on May 14, 2019, 06:31:45 AM
Built in 1982 ?
No

Quote from: Djetset on May 14, 2019, 06:40:47 AM
Are the German mechanicals mainly NSU-based?
No NSU parts mentioned in my source
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: oko94 on May 14, 2019, 06:57:01 AM
Built in 1984 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Djetset on May 14, 2019, 07:12:59 AM

No NSU parts mentioned in my source
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Those tail lights look distinctly NSU TTS to me, but they are probably the only NSU parts used on this strange car  ;)
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 03:28:32 AM
Quote from: oko94 on May 14, 2019, 06:57:01 AM
Built in 1984 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 04:27:18 AM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 04:39:10 AM
Built in 1981 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 04:40:37 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 05:02:54 AM
Can it be found online ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 06:19:38 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 06:32:50 AM
German engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 06:37:41 AM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 06:43:45 AM
European engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 07:25:49 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 07:44:39 AM
Italian engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 07:56:58 AM
French engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 09:28:51 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 09:59:49 AM
Renault engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Peugeot engine ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 02:11:43 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 03:50:38 AM
More than 1800 cc ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 04:29:32 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 04:37:48 AM
V6 engine ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 04:53:09 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 05:17:37 AM
Is the body made out of some unusual stuff like cardboard ?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 05:31:19 AM
Not cardboard, but not steel either.
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 05:34:34 AM
Is the body made out of wood ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 05:39:50 AM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 07:47:58 AM
Is the body made out of fiberglass ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 08:46:43 AM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 12:01:51 PM
Was the chassis sourced from a German car ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 12:10:39 PM
No
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Post by: oko94 on May 16, 2019, 12:14:13 PM
Bespoke chassis ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 16, 2019, 12:38:28 PM
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on August 22, 2019, 05:33:14 AM
Can it still be found online ?
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Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2019, 06:53:42 AM
I think so
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Post by: bsa on August 22, 2019, 09:37:14 AM
German gearbox?
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Djetset on August 22, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
I think I may have just realised what this is via my never-ending tail light research (from an NSU TTS). It looks like a Porsche 917-inspired eigenbau made in 1981 by Matthias Hebel in Germany, using a V6 engine and Porsche gearbox.
Title: Re: Wendax 2872
Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2019, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Djetset on August 22, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
I think I may have just realised what this is via my never-ending tail light research (from an NSU TTS). It looks like a Porsche 917-inspired eigenbau made in 1981 by Matthias Hebel in Germany, using a V6 engine and Porsche gearbox.
Obscure obsessions do pay out sometimes.  ;D

The engine was a PRV V6 (Peugeot-Renault-Volvo).
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 2872 - Porsche 917-inspired eigenbau by Matthias Hebel
Post by: Wendax on November 10, 2022, 10:33:33 AM
There has been an article about this car recently. Its official name was M & O Hebel HH 1. It was built by Matthias Hebel and his brother Oliver. The car still exists sans engine, stored vertically as it was never permanently road legal because of the assumed costs for verifying the torsional rigidity of the tubular frame.
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