What is this?
Make? Purpose? Approx year?
German Lanz artillery tractor, captured by British or Australian forces c. 1918?
Artillery tractor, but not a Lantz.
The date I have is c. 1916 so 1918 is close enough.
I don't know whether this is a captured one or not. The two men look more German than British to me. But that's not part of the question.
Dürkopp?
Not a Dürkopp
Found the photo (not with Google image search, just by searching for phrases like Erster Weltkrieg Zugmaschine.). It's in a museum, but identified only as "Zugmaschine mit 2 Soldaten." That's no help. Still looking.
The link I found gave a make for the tractor
1917 Kaelble artillery tractor with Daimler motor. One of possibly two constructed.
That's not the maker's name I have. Unfortunately I've lost the link.
Can you corroborate yours?
Yes, but how? Do you want me to post a picture, or send a PM, or what? I thought we weren't supposed to post links.
From "Die Rad - Und Vollketten-Zugmaschinen - Des Deutschen Heeres 1871-1945", p. 39. Look carefully at both the front and rear wheels.
I still like Kaelble, but there is some discussion out there about it being a Deutz. Was that the name you are looking for? Apparently this tractor doesn't appear in Deutz archives. Apparently Kaelble built two, and those may be the ones visible in the pic I posted. Note the CK notation, which may mean "Carl Kaelble."
Bump. I found some discussion on a WWI vehicle forum that is pertinent but I thought we are forbidden to post links.
I found it in a Facebook group that focuses on lorries. Someone posted the picture with a generic title "World War 1 artillery tractor". Somebody else posted saying it was a Bussing - he sounded very positive and nobody questioned it. Now I am having my doubts.
I suggest we call it solved as a Kaelble Artillery Tractor from circa 1916. Do you agree?
(and award you the point of course)
Here are some pictures from a WWI vehicle forum. I shouldn't post links. The discussion seems to be fairly well agreed that the Bussing is similar but different from the Kaelble. Notice the Bussing's wheels are different.
Quote from: D-type on May 20, 2022, 10:29:28 AM
I found it in a Facebook group that focuses on lorries. Someone posted the picture With a generic title "World War 1 artillery tractor". Somebody else posted saying it was a Bussing - he sounded very positive and nobody questioned it. Now I am having my doubts.
I suggest we call it solved as a Kaelbe Artilley Tractor from circa 1916. Do you agree?
Yes!
For what it's worth, here's another pic, which is positively identified as a Bussing. Note the wheels are different from any previously posted.
To me, it's not the same.