SOLVED: FW #277 Jaguard, Taraschi chassis, Giannini engine, Faina body 1950/51

[fromwien]

Please identify this car: Name? Chassis? Engine? Coachbuilder? Year?

[fromwien]

Who will be the fastest, to earn this point? Up to the experts..

[SACO]

Giaur 750 berlinetta Motto !

[fromwien]

No

[FrontMan]

Fiat 1100, Zagato, 1949?

[hermanoto]

Carrozzeria Faina, 1950, Giannni G1 engine, 500cc, based on Fiat mechanicals, called the Petrarca 750 Sport, raced by Sesto Leonardi

[fromwien]

Fiat 1100, Zagato, 1949?

No

Carrozzeria Faina, 1950, Giannni G1 engine, 500cc, based on Fiat mechanicals, called the Petrarca 750 Sport, raced by Sesto Leonardi

You are so near the solution, that I will lock for you.
Name? Petrarca: Not the name, I have
Chassis?
Engine? Giannni G1: Yes, but 750ccm
Coachbuilder? Faina: Yes
Year? 1950: Yes
LOCKED

[hermanoto]

Patriarca 750 Sport Berlinetta, chassis derived from the Fiat Topolino

[fromwien]

No, UNLOCKED

Giaur 750 berlinetta Motto !

Second chance for SACO

[fromwien]

Patriarca 750 Sport Berlinetta, chassis derived from the Fiat Topolino

Picture of the Patriarca attached (Targa Florio 1950)

[hermanoto]

Giannini Berlinetta Faina

[SACO]

I answered " Giaur " because I saw this photo:

[fromwien]

I feel very happy about the conversation now.
I agree to 'SACO', as I ever had this car in my library as 'Giaur 750 Motto Berlinetta'. As also can be found on the 'Taraschi-website'.

In an Italian book about 'Etceterinis from 1938-1965' this car isn't named 'Giaur', but 'Taraschi'. I learned, that Berardo Taraschi's cars were named 'Urania' from 1947-1949. Then after until 1958 'Giaur' (Giannini-Urania). From 1959 on, 'Taraschi'.

Then I found a picture on the net with (some wrong details written on) a complete other name. This was the reason, why I posted this puzzle asa repost once more. Also to find the correct coachbuilder.

In my opinion, supported by two sources, it is Faina, not Motto. Anybody another idea?

Are 'SACO' and 'hermanoto' still interested to find the (obscure) name, I found written on a picture of this car?

[hermanoto]

car was raced by Boldrini / Camponi in the 1951 Mille Miglia with number 2357.
They also  took part at the Giro delle Calabrio in 1951 (entry number 1031?) and finished 17th.

An almost identical shaped car was named after the driver in combination with Fiat: the Marino Fiat (1951 Mille Miglia entry nr. 2321).
Boldrini Fiat  or Camponi Fiat gave no results.

is it called Giaur Berlinetta BT-005, body by Carr. Faina?

[fromwien]

The name I have, is far away  from 'Giaur' and 'Taraschi'. It is an obscure sounding name for an Italian car, similar to an very famous British marque

[hermanoto]

BB (after the driver B. Boldrini?)

[fromwien]

No, sorry, nothing to do with the driver's names, but the 'name of a sort of cat plus a letter'

[hermanoto]

Italian translation for Jaguar: GIAGUARO

[fromwien]

As near it is! I want to solve the mystery now and award both of you, 'hermanoto' and 'SACO', each other with one point.
Now I attach the photo, which led me to post this puzzle once more
May be anybody knows more, if this car is a 'Giaur', 'Taraschi' or even 'Jaguard'? With 'Motto' or 'Faina' bodyworh?
The front badge doesn't look like 'Giaur',..

Thank you for participating

[SACO]

Thank you ! 

[hermanoto]

thanks! without some clues from You it was'nt posible for me to find the name

[Carnut]

Photo from the book "Carrozzeria Motto" by Alessandro Sannia:

[Carnut]

And another photo, from the book "La Sport 1937-1965" featuring lots of the 'etceterini' cars.
It appears in the 'Taraschi' chapter and the caption translates to read:

"Below right, this berlinetta, which appeared in 1950 with bodywork made by Mario Faina, was brought to victory by Bruno Boldrini and Luciano Palomba in the Tuscan Cup that year, retiring however the following year, the race in which the photo was taken."

The only difference I can see between these two cars is the position of the badge on the nose, so I would be pretty sure they are in fact the same car, but I don't know where the story of the car being built by Motto began!

[fromwien]

Me too, 'carnut', knew about the two sources with different descriptions of obviously the same car. Plus this mystery photo I 've attached..

[Carnut]

Perhaps it acquired its new name when someone else got the car and swapped the engine for a Giannini (not that I know what engine it had to start with...) and then practised a bit of wishful thinking that it was his own self-made car so he dreamt up the name Jaguard for it...
Just surmising!
It always amuses me when 'collectors' today (and this seems to have originated relatively recently in the USA) insist a car is original with matching numbers, when I don't think there is any such thing with old cars like this one. They have all had lots of parts replaced/rebuilt and there just aren't any cars like this of this era which have not had a life of racing or at least have been used in anger. To insist a classic car like this must be 'original' to have any real value is a bit like insisting it was built on Mars otherwise it's worth nothing!
'Matching numbers' is bit like a carte blanche for numbers to be stamped on any replacement part fitted in the 60 or 70 years since the car was built, and then any number of clueless 'collectors' can be fooled into parting with unbelievable amounts of money so they can claim it at Pebble Beach or some other such polish-fest.