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Title: Solved NIC#1313 - 1949 Brookes Special (based on Graham-Paige)
Post by: nicanary on December 06, 2021, 01:50:26 PM
What is this car called, and what is the base car ?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 03, 2022, 05:08:32 AM
experts?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 03, 2022, 08:37:47 AM
Commercial vehicle chassis?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 03, 2022, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 03, 2022, 08:37:47 AM
Commercial vehicle chassis?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: ducamax66 on January 03, 2022, 12:52:39 PM
Sunbeam?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 03, 2022, 01:02:54 PM
A regular length chassis shortened by the builder?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 03, 2022, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 03, 2022, 01:02:54 PM
A regular length chassis shortened by the builder?

There is no Sunbeam connection. I'm afraid I don't know if the chassis was shortened - I don't think so but cannot be certain.

PS just checked my source. The donor car was damaged and the rear of the chassis had to be replaced with parts from another car. The resulting wheelbase was 108 inches. I have no idea if this is standard for the donor car.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: D-type on January 03, 2022, 06:33:03 PM
Are engine and chassis from the same donor car?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 04:47:11 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 03, 2022, 06:33:03 PM
Are engine and chassis from the same donor car?

Engine and front half of the chassis are from the same car.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 07:15:51 AM
Hence the different wheels, is this car more modern mechanically than its 1930s appearance suggests?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: D-type on January 04, 2022, 07:17:30 AM
Is the donor a Derby Bentley?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 07:26:41 AM
Not a Derby Bentley.  The base car originates from the 1930s.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:24:47 PM
Not Derby Bentley, but is it a Bentley of any description?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:24:47 PM
Not Derby Bentley, but is it a Bentley of any description?

Sorry for being vague. Not a Bentley in any way.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:35:25 PM
English?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 01:41:19 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:35:25 PM
English?

Built in the UK. Some parts are British.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:47:00 PM
Other parts European?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 01:47:00 PM
Other parts European?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 04:18:33 PM
USA parts?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2022, 04:51:10 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 04, 2022, 04:18:33 PM
USA parts?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 05, 2022, 04:12:44 AM
USA chassis(s)?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2022, 05:26:44 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 05, 2022, 04:12:44 AM
USA chassis(s)?

USA engine and front part of the chassis. Some other bits are American.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: D-type on January 05, 2022, 11:06:35 AM
A Railton based on a Hudson Terraplane?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2022, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2022, 11:06:35 AM
A Railton based on a Hudson Terraplane?

Neither marque.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 05, 2022, 12:26:34 PM
Straight six?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2022, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 05, 2022, 12:26:34 PM
Straight six?

A clue - straight 8.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: D-type on January 05, 2022, 06:59:08 PM
Brough Superior and Hudson straight 8
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 04:31:22 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2022, 06:59:08 PM
Brough Superior and Hudson straight 8

Neither.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 04:59:12 AM
Detroit 'Big Three' manufactured engine?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 06:34:41 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 04:59:12 AM
Detroit 'Big Three' manufactured engine?

No. Lower volume marque.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
Dusenberg?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 07:33:42 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
Dusenberg?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 09:51:45 AM
Guessing now.  Hudson great eight?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 10:07:45 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 09:51:45 AM
Guessing now.  Hudson great eight?

No. Probably lower volume than Hudson but higher volume than Duesenburg.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 10:34:09 AM
Buick?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 10:34:09 AM
Buick?

No. less common.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 12:07:40 PM
Still trading?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 12:07:40 PM
Still trading?

No. Long gone.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 02:06:27 PM
Suvived the Great Depression?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 06, 2022, 02:06:27 PM
Suvived the Great Depression?

Yes, just about.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: D-type on January 06, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
Auburn?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 06, 2022, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
Auburn?

No. Not a premium brand.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 07, 2022, 01:00:00 PM
A maker of vehicles other than cars?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 07, 2022, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 07, 2022, 01:00:00 PM
A maker of vehicles other than cars?

The company began with trucks but this line was dropped in the 1920s.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: richard fridd on January 07, 2022, 02:55:58 PM
US Army trucks?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 07, 2022, 03:16:49 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on January 07, 2022, 02:55:58 PM
US Army trucks?

Commercial light trucks.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: Zerk on January 07, 2022, 05:59:27 PM
Is it Graham?
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 08, 2022, 04:50:51 AM
Quote from: Zerk on January 07, 2022, 05:59:27 PM
Is it Graham?

YES! LOCKED for Zerk (sorry Richard Fridd). Now could you tell me the name of the car.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: Zerk on January 08, 2022, 05:34:25 AM
Sorry, no. I've come up dry. Please unlock.
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 08, 2022, 05:46:20 AM
Unlocked. Should be easy now for UK members.......
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: Lavrakas on January 08, 2022, 07:04:06 AM
1934 Graham Paige "Brookes Special"!
Title: Re: NIC#1313
Post by: nicanary on January 08, 2022, 07:21:19 AM
Quote from: Lavrakas on January 08, 2022, 07:04:06 AM
1934 Graham Paige "Brookes Special"!

That's the one! Built in 1949 from a wrecked 1934 Graham-Paige with a supercharged straight-8 motor. It was in a Bonhams auction - Rear chassis by Austin, rear axle from a Chrysler, Windscreen from a 1922 Cluley, steering wheel from a 1925 Bean, a real mixture of marques.

One point to you.