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Title: Solved NIC#1337 - 1935 F.M. by Fensom
Post by: nicanary on May 28, 2022, 07:10:54 AM
This one is very difficult. I'll give the Rookies a chance and award 2 points if anyone identifies it - then only 1 point if it reaches the next stage.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: marmer on May 28, 2022, 09:30:59 PM
American?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on May 29, 2022, 04:31:31 AM
Quote from: marmer on May 28, 2022, 09:30:59 PM
American?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: NickW on June 16, 2022, 10:53:28 AM
Invicta S-Type?

Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on June 16, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: NickW on June 16, 2022, 10:53:28 AM
Invicta S-Type?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 05:41:21 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 06:07:23 AM
...was NickW half right?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 06:24:36 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 06:07:23 AM
...was NickW half right?

No, although the builder used Invicta principles in his design.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: BattlePorQ on July 11, 2022, 07:58:32 AM
British chassis with american V8?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 08:26:59 AM
Quote from: BattlePorQ on July 11, 2022, 07:58:32 AM
British chassis with american V8?

British chassis but not an American engine.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: BattlePorQ on July 11, 2022, 08:36:46 AM
Squire maybe?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: BattlePorQ on July 11, 2022, 08:36:46 AM
Squire maybe?

No. I'll give a clue - it's a one-off.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
Railton?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 12:49:46 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
Railton?

No. Definitely only one built.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 01:44:33 PM
Did it get bodied?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 11, 2022, 01:59:47 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 11, 2022, 01:44:33 PM
Did it get bodied?

Good question. Not really - a body which was intended for the car was found much later, but the chassis had already been bought and modified by someone other than the person who commissioned the car.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 12, 2022, 04:39:43 AM
One of the Aldington brothers, following A.F.N.'s acquisition of the Invicta assets? The chassis frame seems to be pure Supercharged 12/90 (or perhaps 12/100).
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 12, 2022, 04:48:08 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 12, 2022, 04:39:43 AM
One of the Aldington brothers, following A.F.N.'s acquisition of the Invicta assets? The chassis frame seems to be pure Supercharged 12/90 (or perhaps 12/100).

Nothing to do with AFN/Aldington. The chassis was completely self-built but copied designs of established marques.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 12, 2022, 08:23:28 AM
A liitle gem of a puzzle!...Was the builder well-known in motoring circles?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 12, 2022, 08:38:27 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 12, 2022, 08:23:28 AM
A liitle gem of a puzzle!...Was the builder well-known in motoring circles?

I had never heard of the designer/builder and my source does not refer to him by first name, which suggests he was not that well-known. He did own an engineering company.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 13, 2022, 01:31:54 PM
...based in Surrey?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 13, 2022, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 13, 2022, 01:31:54 PM
...based in Surrey?

Yes, but not in the Brooklands complex.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: FrontMan on July 14, 2022, 08:42:57 AM
Warner?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on July 14, 2022, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: FrontMan on July 14, 2022, 08:42:57 AM
Warner?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on August 29, 2022, 06:04:39 AM
Pros?
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: fromwien on August 29, 2022, 07:54:30 AM
Anthony Sebag-Montefiore's F.M. from 1939, running a blown Jameson 1-litre 4-cylinder engine
I have found the same picture of the puzzle car in my database. Sorrily with very scarce details noted. Scanned from a magazine, but not noted from which one...
Title: Re: NIC#1337
Post by: nicanary on August 29, 2022, 08:31:12 AM
That is enough to be awarded the point. My records say 1935, and it's Arthur Sebag-Montefiore. .


He commissioned a Mr. Fensom (no first name available) to build him a car suitable for sporting events, and particularly the 1936 Monte Carlo Rally. Mr Fensom constructed this chassis copying the 1933 Invicta 1.5-litre and fitted a Villiers-supercharged Lagonda 2-litre engine. A close-coupled 4-seater body was built but never fitted. Sadly Mr. Sebag-Montefiore was killed in a flying accident and the project stalled. The chassis was bought by Peter Clark who fitted a Ford V8 and a basic body.

I can find no information about Mr Fensom apart from the fact that he was in partnership with Miles Rothwell.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1337 - 1935 F.M. by Fensom
Post by: fromwien on August 29, 2022, 12:24:59 PM
Thank you very much for the unawaited point.
The last two hours, I desperately grabbed through my database to find something more out about this car, and about its technical details. Sorry, have only small pictures of very poor quality saved. Need to know, from which magazine I scanned them, then I can offer them in better quality
Title: Re: Solved NIC#1337 - 1935 F.M. by Fensom
Post by: nicanary on August 29, 2022, 01:19:13 PM
There was an article in a 1935 issue of Motor Sport magazine. I don't think it mentioned the interesting history of the car including the Jameson engine.