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Title: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Allemano on October 11, 2011, 08:29:48 AM
Please respond below if you know the make and model designation of this car. Who did the body work?
One point for the right and complete answer!

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Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 15, 2011, 07:40:35 AM
up it goes!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: D-type on October 15, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
Pegaso??
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 15, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: D-type on October 15, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
Pegaso??
No
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: D-type on October 15, 2011, 11:09:16 AM
Thanks for the very prompt reply.  I didn't think it was one, but it does have a Pegaso look about it.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 29, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Does a Pro know it?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 29, 2011, 08:33:24 AM
Ford chassis?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 29, 2011, 08:46:50 AM
No Ford parts I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Carnut on October 29, 2011, 08:47:47 AM
DKW based?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 29, 2011, 08:52:49 AM
Not DKW based, either.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: woodinsight on October 29, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
Italian?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 29, 2011, 09:16:42 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on October 29, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
Italian?
Right!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 29, 2011, 09:18:27 AM
It's a RAOR!
RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport 1949, body by Sperandeo.                          
I know it was for sale and I met the owner few years ago...
Here are the pics I took:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 701
Post by: Allemano on October 29, 2011, 09:30:48 AM
Right! :)
And thanks for the pics! I couldn't find anything of that quality on the internet!

"Carozzeria Sperandeo" was new for me.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 30, 2011, 04:17:29 AM
Cool car - and an interesting logo. Not many car companies with merman motif's
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Allemano on October 30, 2011, 05:45:59 AM
Anyone knows what ROAR means?
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 30, 2011, 05:52:01 AM
I could tell you, but I'd be lion.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Carnut on October 30, 2011, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: Allemano on October 30, 2011, 05:45:59 AM
Anyone knows what ROAR means?

RAOR actually..

I bet PJ knows.
This car actually featured in his Etceterini Madness some time ago, but no-one expanded on what it meant then either...:

www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9486.0
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: faksta on October 30, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
Riparazione Automobilistiche Officine Riunite AFAIK
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Beppe on August 26, 2014, 10:13:49 AM
It's not the correct acronymous; i'm the nephew of one of the three founders (Farina, Falanga and the principal, my grandfather, Giuseppe Li Greci).

The esact acronymous is Rettifiche Autorizzate Operai Riuniti

Regards
b
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 26, 2014, 10:24:13 AM
Ciao Beppe,

benvenuto ad Autopuzzles!
Finalmente un po di chiarezza su quella sigla...hai qualche foto o notizia sulle auto di tuo nonno?
Sul libro di Curami ci sono due siluri RAOR a pag.306 ma nessuna barchetta... sai quante ne furono costruite in tutto?

(Hi Beppe,
welcome to Autopuzzles!
Finally it's clear what that name stands for...have you got any pics or info about your grandfather's cars?
In Curami's book there are two 'siluri' RAOR on pag.306 but not a single Barchetta... do you know how many cars were built? )
Title: SOLVED: FW #157: Fiat 1100B Sport ROAR Barchetta, 1949
Post by: fromwien on January 01, 2022, 05:41:30 PM
Please identify this car: Make? Type? Builder? Coachbuilder? Year?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: D-type on January 09, 2022, 08:03:36 AM
A homebuilt special with a Ford chassis & engine, and a proprietary fibreglass body.  Named the XXX Special after its builder?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 09, 2022, 10:31:49 AM
Many guesses packed to one answer: Sorry, all wrong
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: FrontMan on January 09, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
Panhard base?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 09, 2022, 06:20:18 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: FrontMan on January 10, 2022, 09:17:19 AM
Moretti 750 ?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 10, 2022, 12:59:32 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 11, 2022, 04:28:30 PM
Fiat 1100?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 11, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
Yes, Fiat 1100 based
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 12, 2022, 02:12:11 AM
Stanguellini 1100B MM?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 12, 2022, 03:45:42 AM
Not a Stanguellini
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 12, 2022, 05:50:04 AM
Ermini?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 12, 2022, 06:10:42 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 13, 2022, 04:26:19 PM
Did you compete in the Mille Miglia / Targa Florio?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2022, 05:28:53 PM
Targa Florio
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 14, 2022, 01:16:08 PM
Has the manufacturer built other cars I have a one-off?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
It isn't a one-off
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 16, 2022, 12:57:57 PM
Does it have anything to do with the Italian manufacturer Raor?
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 16, 2022, 04:13:47 PM
Yes, it does! LOCKED for you
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: ducamax66 on January 16, 2022, 04:17:41 PM
Please do not block, the search will still be long ...
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 16, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Generous UNLOCK..
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: SACO on January 17, 2022, 04:34:13 AM
RAOR by Sperandeo !
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: fromwien on January 17, 2022, 08:53:33 AM
Yes, Sperandeo was the coachbuilder of this Fiat 1100 Sport by RAOR.
What is RAOR? What's the builder's name? When?
LOCKED for SACO
Title: Re: FW #157
Post by: SACO on January 17, 2022, 09:29:24 AM
Riparazione Automobilistiche Officine Riunite (RAOR) ; built by Giuseppe Falanga in his Palermo workshop in 1949 !
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Wendax on January 17, 2022, 09:52:27 AM
Merged

According to a former post by the nephew of one of the founders RAOR stood for Rettifiche Autorizzate Operai Riuniti.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: fromwien on January 17, 2022, 10:03:02 AM
I've seen it. Thank you for the clue, Wendax
Attached one of my sources. All of them say: 'Riparazione Automobilistiche Officine Riunite = 'RAOR'. Now I feel a little bit uncertain, if that is fact
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: ducamax66 on January 17, 2022, 01:26:34 PM
Roar, Riparazione Officine Automobilistiche Riunite, costruzione Sperandeo, elaborazione Falanga..
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: fromwien on January 17, 2022, 02:48:14 PM
Dear 'ducamax66', are you sure, Falangas company name is 'ROAR' (Riparazione Officine Automobilistiche Riunite) and not 'RAOR' ('Riparazione Automobilistiche Officine Riunite') ('Rettifiche Autorizzate Operai Riuniti') ?
Now we have three names for only one company..
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: ducamax66 on January 18, 2022, 12:24:47 AM
Sorry, sorry, sorry, RAOR!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2022, 06:47:26 AM
The story of this car is rather complicated. Nothing to do with Falanga or RAOR, despite what can be found online. I'll try to add more soon.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2022, 09:22:04 AM
Your comment is very very thrilling, 'Paul Jaray'!
I haven't found the information to this car online, I've found it at an auction, and took the information out of the auction catalog!
Will check the auction results, what money has been spent for a car with totally wrong description, as you say
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 07, 2022, 04:32:59 AM
Carrozzeria Sperandeo built at least 2 barchettas.
One of them, was built from a Fiat 1100s MM berlinetta.
It's owner, nearly 40 years ago, discarded the (original) body (first picture) and built a new one, on the original chassis (second picture).
The old body was then mated to a new chassis and a new story was invented for it.
Falanga's family was not pleased to read it was named R.A.O.R. (they say they have the only existing R.A.O.R..that is another car) and the matter was brought to court.
The RAOR by Sperandeo in this puzzle is a modern creation, realized using an original Sperandeo body and a different chassis of unknown origin.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 701 - 1949 RAOR Fiat 1100 B Sport bodied by Sperandeo
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2026, 10:10:17 AM
The title of this puzzle should be changed. This car is not a RAOR. It was built using the original body discharged from a barchetta by Sperandeo.