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Title: Solved: Allemano's № 877 - 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co.
Post by: Allemano on May 12, 2013, 08:06:09 AM
What's the name of this little lorry?

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Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 18, 2013, 12:31:43 AM
up!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
German?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 18, 2013, 02:33:34 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
German?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
French?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 18, 2013, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
French?
Neither.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 18, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
British?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 18, 2013, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 18, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
British?
Not British either.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 04:51:58 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 19, 2013, 01:51:15 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 18, 2013, 04:51:58 PM
Italian?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 19, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
I understand that heavier three wheel trucks have been used as garbage haulers in China.  Is this truck of Chinese manufacture?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 19, 2013, 08:45:43 PM
Not Asian at all.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 19, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
European?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 20, 2013, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on May 19, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
European?
Yes!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: targhediferro on May 20, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Spanish?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 20, 2013, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 20, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Spanish?
The European journey starts again.. ;D

Not from sunny Spain!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 20, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
polish?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 20, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
polish?
Not from Poland either.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: targhediferro on May 21, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
Austrian?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on May 21, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
Austrian?
:shakehead:

Austria
France
Great Britain
Italy
Poland
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: DeAutogids on May 21, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
Is it a Dutch vehicle?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
Austria
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Italy
Poland
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: DeAutogids on May 21, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Belgian?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 02:09:51 PM
Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Italy
Poland
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
From hungary?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 03:06:06 PM
how about Greece?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Greece
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 03:24:28 PM
Scandinavia?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 21, 2013, 11:41:14 PM
Austria
Belgium
Netherlands
France
Great Britain
Greece
Hungary
Italy
Poland
Scandinavia
Spain
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
Switzerland?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 22, 2013, 12:13:54 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 21, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
Switzerland?
Yes!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: kwgibbs on May 22, 2013, 12:40:30 AM
any relation to Saurer?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 22, 2013, 01:08:38 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 22, 2013, 12:40:30 AM
any relation to Saurer?
Not as far as I know.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 22, 2013, 02:36:02 AM
Although I can't find any pictures, I understand Mowag built some three wheelers.  Might this be a Mowag?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 23, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
Not Mowag
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 23, 2013, 08:00:32 AM
SIG?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Bill Murray on May 23, 2013, 09:09:02 AM
Total frustration...... ???

Was the manufacturer generally known for building vehicles?

Bill
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 23, 2013, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on May 23, 2013, 08:00:32 AM
SIG?
Not SIG.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 23, 2013, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: Bill Murray on May 23, 2013, 09:09:02 AM
Total frustration...... ???

Was the manufacturer generally known for building vehicles?

Bill
I have to admit I didn't know the manufacturer before. But after searching a bit I found many vehicles built by that company.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Bill Murray on May 23, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
I am out of names........
Tribelhorn?
Bill
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 23, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
SLM of Winterthur?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 24, 2013, 12:41:23 AM
Neither SLM nor Tribelhorn.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 25, 2013, 01:16:26 PM
Is this vehicle by a firm normally thought of as a coachbuilder?  I am thinking particularly of Seitz (Emmishofen) which was reformed into Mowag. 
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Bill Murray on May 25, 2013, 08:17:13 PM

So many, too many, hours invested in this one but I cannot give up.

I think 4popoid and I are using the same data bases and it does not seem to be working.

Is it fair to ask if the manufacturer of this vehicle is not, in fact, a known "manufacturer of brand name marques" but a coachbuilder of vehicles on some other chassis.

Bill
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 26, 2013, 05:32:21 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on May 25, 2013, 01:16:26 PM
Is this vehicle by a firm normally thought of as a coachbuilder?  I am thinking particularly of Seitz (Emmishofen) which was reformed into Mowag.  
Seitz is correct!

Now give me the complete name of the company, a possible year and the type of drive and the point is yours!

LOCKED for 4popoid
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: 4popoid on May 26, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
Anything that I can find on Seitz is pretty sketchy, but here is what I have:

Seitz & Cie. AG (founded in 1850) was located in Kreuzlingen (Emmishofen before 1928), Switzerland (near the German border).  After 100 years in existence, the firm merged with MOWAG AG, Kreuzlingen (founded in 1946), in 1951, to become MOWAG Seitz & Ruf AG, which, in 1954, became MOWAG Motorwagenfabrik AG.  The company is currently known as General Dynamics European Land Systems - Mowag GmbH.

I haven't been able to locate any information on the puzzle car, but I did determine that Seitz had produced a number of electric drive vehicles, so I'm guessing that this vehicle may be an electric drive, although I understand that Seitz produced some serial hybrids, so this might have been an electric drive with a diesel (Seitz made an under floor model), or gasoline, engine to drive a generator. 

As for a date, I can only speculate, based on cab style, that it is from the 1940's.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 877
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2013, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on May 26, 2013, 08:26:57 PM
Anything that I can find on Seitz is pretty sketchy, but here is what I have:

Seitz & Cie. AG (founded in 1850) was located in Kreuzlingen (Emmishofen before 1928), Switzerland (near the German border).  After 100 years in existence, the firm merged with MOWAG AG, Kreuzlingen (founded in 1946), in 1951, to become MOWAG Seitz & Ruf AG, which, in 1954, became MOWAG Motorwagenfabrik AG.  The company is currently known as General Dynamics European Land Systems - Mowag GmbH.

I haven't been able to locate any information on the puzzle car, but I did determine that Seitz had produced a number of electric drive vehicles, so I'm guessing that this vehicle may be an electric drive, although I understand that Seitz produced some serial hybrids, so this might have been an electric drive with a diesel (Seitz made an under floor model), or gasoline, engine to drive a generator. 

As for a date, I can only speculate, based on cab style, that it is from the 1940's.

Good enough for me! :)

I have it as 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co. (Kreuzlingen/CH).

Well done and another point for you!
Title: SOLVED: FW #178: Seitz Roller, electric, 1942
Post by: fromwien on October 28, 2022, 05:53:58 AM
Please identify this car: Make? Type? Year?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fuerza on October 29, 2022, 04:14:33 AM
German? Looks similar to Weise.
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 09, 2022, 05:20:29 PM
Not German
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 09, 2022, 05:22:13 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: Bill d isere on November 10, 2022, 01:32:49 AM
Japan ?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 02:47:23 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: Bill d isere on November 10, 2022, 03:00:46 AM
Europe ?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 03:26:53 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: BattlePorQ on November 10, 2022, 03:30:28 AM
Italy?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: driggy.dragos on November 10, 2022, 06:01:14 AM
Greece?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 06:09:48 AM
Quote from: BattlePorQ on November 10, 2022, 03:30:28 AM
Italy?
not Italy,..
Quote from: driggy.dragos on November 10, 2022, 06:01:14 AM
Greece?
..not Greece
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: driggy.dragos on November 10, 2022, 06:44:02 AM
UK?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 06:51:10 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: BattlePorQ on November 10, 2022, 08:16:46 AM
Swiss?
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: Bill d isere on November 10, 2022, 09:07:26 AM
Spain
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: BattlePorQ on November 10, 2022, 08:16:46 AM
Swiss?
Yes
Quote from: Bill d isere on November 10, 2022, 09:07:26 AM
Spain
No
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: Bill d isere on November 10, 2022, 03:20:40 PM
Seitz & Co 1942 Elektroroller
Title: Re: FW #178
Post by: fromwien on November 10, 2022, 04:02:09 PM
Again one more point for you! Congratulation
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 877 - 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co.
Post by: Wendax on November 10, 2022, 05:27:41 PM
Merged
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 877 - 1942 Elektroroller by Seitz & Co.
Post by: Bill d isere on November 11, 2022, 06:03:16 AM
Thank you for this point