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Title: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 23, 2013, 05:10:05 PM
what is this and how is this powered for a point
i have only name of the builder and country he is from
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on July 09, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
experts time
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: kwgibbs on July 09, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
I would say Russian homebuilt?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on July 09, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
maybe it is surprise but it is not from Russia
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on August 04, 2013, 05:44:34 PM
so time for a pros
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Wendax on August 05, 2013, 03:12:30 AM
Powered by compressed air?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Quiller on August 05, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
Is it perhaps Vittorio Sorgato's compressed air car?
If so, a repost:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5111.msg33283#msg33283
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Carnut on October 09, 2013, 07:39:00 AM
Consigning this to the Black Hole..
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on February 02, 2014, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Wendax on August 05, 2013, 03:12:30 AM
Powered by compressed air?

it is powered by compressed air
but this is not worth a point, even a lock
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 01:33:50 AM
Hi
Coming back to this one, so, was this built by Vittorio Sorgato?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 02:41:22 AM
not him
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 02:57:29 AM
from one of the CEE countries (Central and Eastern Europe)?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
more C than E
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 03:41:58 AM
Czechoslovakia?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 03:44:08 AM
Not from there
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 04:07:52 AM
again, from Poland?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 04:23:16 AM
not Poland
more C than E :)
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 05:56:28 AM
From the Western part of Europe?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 06:08:49 AM
yes
western side of iron curtain
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 06:32:55 AM
Germany?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 07:21:21 AM
not from there
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 07:42:31 AM
Austria?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 07:43:37 AM
yes it is
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on September 18, 2018, 03:40:09 AM
a little bump and summary:
this "car" is from Austria and it is powered by compressed air
I need only a name of the builder (the man behind "the wheel")
I took the photo from old polish car magazine.
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 14, 2022, 12:51:23 PM
The car appeared in 1980 Inventor's Fair, at Nürnberg (No name)
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on January 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
His name was Peter Vrbata
"A compressed air car was one of the most admired inventions at the opening of the iENA 80 yesterday.
An Austrian researcher installed several compressed air bottles on a chassis. Via valves the air is conducted to the compressed air motors which drive the vehicle through transmission. Without gasoline and exhaust fumes the 0.5 horse power car has a range of
approximately 70 km or one hour of operation. The empty compressed air bottles can be refilled with a compressor which will be plugged into an electrical socket. The price per kilometer is 1.5 Pfennigs. It is intended to build a standard size car at a later date."
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 14, 2022, 01:28:44 PM
Yes, I've just found an article about it
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on January 15, 2022, 07:26:27 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
His name was Peter Vrbata
"A compressed air car was one of the most admired inventions at the opening of the iENA 80 yesterday.
An Austrian researcher installed several compressed air bottles on a chassis. Via valves the air is conducted to the compressed air motors which drive the vehicle through transmission. Without gasoline and exhaust fumes the 0.5 horse power car has a range of
approximately 70 km or one hour of operation. The empty compressed air bottles can be refilled with a compressor which will be plugged into an electrical socket. The price per kilometer is 1.5 Pfennigs. It is intended to build a standard size car at a later date."

yes You found the vehicle but as You can see on Oguerrerob's article scan Peter Vrbata is the name of photographer not an inventor of this vehicle.
I have a different name for him.
If I am wrong please prove it
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 17, 2022, 12:03:03 AM
Did this inventor build other car?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on January 17, 2022, 01:21:22 AM
Karl Kraft?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on January 17, 2022, 03:09:56 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 17, 2022, 01:21:22 AM
Karl Kraft?

You are close, You need to find the surname
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2023, 02:29:16 AM
was he Karl Laa by any chance?
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on May 02, 2023, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on April 29, 2023, 02:29:16 AM
was he Karl Laa by any chance?

You are closer than You think, change one letter is surname
it is locked for You
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on May 04, 2023, 06:43:04 AM
I would love to, but that was his name in the patent:
"Motor vehicle, especially small vehicle ,
The innovation relates to a motor vehicle, in particular a small motor vehicle, with at least one motor driven by compressed air, the drive shaft of which is mechanically operated"

by Karl Laa, 2104 Spillern, Niederösterreich. Filed in 1980

Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: grobmotorix on May 04, 2023, 04:55:17 PM
 :applause:
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: del78 on May 05, 2023, 02:55:16 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 04, 2023, 06:43:04 AM
I would love to, but that was his name in the patent:
"Motor vehicle, especially small vehicle ,
The innovation relates to a motor vehicle, in particular a small motor vehicle, with at least one motor driven by compressed air, the drive shaft of which is mechanically operated"

by Karl Laa, 2104 Spillern, Niederösterreich. Filed in 1980

so this must be Karl Laa
in eighties polish magazines weren't so good in translations :)
2 points for You pnegyesi
original article (in polish):
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on May 05, 2023, 05:18:28 AM
Another BH puzzle solved. Yeehaw
Title: Re: SOLVED: del78 no. 144 by pnegyesi: Homemade vehicle running on compressed air build by Karl Laa
Post by: pnegyesi on October 30, 2024, 03:22:27 AM
Some more photos from a recent article covering Karl Laa and his car running on compressed air. For testing purposes the drivetrain was fitted into a Johnny Panther small car

Machine translated text:
A manually operated multi-way valve was responsible for controlling the air supply to the two Atlas Copco turbines, which, each coupled to a rear wheel, provided the drive. To make the vehicle independent of "gas stations", a dynamo and a compressor were also installed in the small car. LAA used the "exhaust air" from the turbines to drive a dynamo, which in turn generated electricity to operate a compressor built into the small car to charge the tanks. The dynamo was also mechanically coupled to the chassis on every downhill journey and provided energy for the compressor - to charge the tanks! (Today, in the case of e-cars, this is called "recuperation". The energy generated when braking is used to recharge the battery). The tanks could therefore be "charged" even while driving. At this point, many questions about the system remain unanswered, which the inventor, Karl LAA, can unfortunately no longer answer due to his age and illness. The four compressed air tanks installed in the small test vehicle, each with a loading capacity of 100 liters of compressed air (from Randeck near Gresten, Lower Austria), enabled a range of around 70 km in hilly terrain, or around 1.5 hours of driving time on flat land. The top speed was just under 70 km/h.

Though the system was well received both in Austria and outside the country too, eventually LAA gave up the experiments.