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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2023 => Topic started by: fromwien on June 08, 2023, 03:31:10 PM

Title: SOLVED: FW #542: Ferrari Guerra Sport, Fiat engine, Argentina
Post by: fromwien on June 08, 2023, 03:31:10 PM
Please be so kind and identify this car and its builder
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on July 13, 2023, 08:12:32 AM
Experts?
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Post by: fromwien on September 11, 2023, 05:36:27 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: fromwien on September 28, 2023, 03:07:04 AM
Masters?
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Post by: gte4289 on September 28, 2023, 01:18:29 PM
Looks incredibly familiar. European?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 28, 2023, 02:54:26 PM
Only partly
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Post by: gte4289 on September 28, 2023, 03:20:25 PM
European engine and chassis?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 28, 2023, 03:26:06 PM
Yes
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Post by: fuerza on September 28, 2023, 04:15:01 PM
German chassis?
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Post by: fromwien on September 28, 2023, 04:38:24 PM
No
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Post by: fuerza on September 28, 2023, 05:49:25 PM
French chassis?
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Post by: fromwien on September 28, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
No
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Post by: fuerza on September 29, 2023, 10:22:56 AM
British chassis and engine?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 11:10:04 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 12:30:39 PM
Fiat-based?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 12:54:35 PM
No, but we get closer
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 12:59:23 PM
Alfa-based?
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Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 01:02:27 PM
No, but right direction
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
Maserati?
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Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 01:46:35 PM
No, but very nearby..
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Post by: Wendax on September 29, 2023, 02:17:39 PM
OSCA?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
No, much, much more prominent marque
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
No, much, much more prominent marque
Ferrari?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 02:33:20 PM
Yes. I know, It actually sounds unbelievable, but I still want to trust the source
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 02:35:03 PM
From the Americas?
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Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 02:51:24 PM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 03:16:28 PM
South America?
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Post by: fromwien on September 29, 2023, 03:39:43 PM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on September 29, 2023, 03:47:22 PM
Brazil?
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Post by: fromwien on September 30, 2023, 05:13:12 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on September 30, 2023, 05:28:30 PM
Argentina?
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Post by: fromwien on September 30, 2023, 05:41:57 PM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 04:39:35 AM
Builder known for other cars?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 01, 2023, 05:05:32 AM
I really know nothing about the builder. Sorry
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Post by: oko94 on October 01, 2023, 08:32:46 AM
Built in the eighties ?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 09:21:35 AM
Built after 1989?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2023, 12:51:50 PM
Shown in an expo?
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Post by: fromwien on October 01, 2023, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2023, 12:51:50 PM
Shown in an expo?
No, as far as I know
Quote from: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 09:21:35 AM
Built after 1989?
Quote from: oko94 on October 01, 2023, 08:32:46 AM
Built in the eighties ?

I have absolutely no idea, when the car has been built, and which Ferrari could have been the base
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
Do you know if this car is front or mid-engined?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2023, 03:28:02 PM
Is it intended to be a racecar?
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Post by: fromwien on October 01, 2023, 04:08:56 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
Do you know if this car is front or mid-engined?
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2023, 03:28:02 PM
Is it intended to be a racecar?
Quote from: fromwien on October 01, 2023, 04:08:56 PM
No
"No" to both?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 01, 2023, 05:30:14 PM
It's front engined, not intended to be a race car
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Post by: gte4289 on October 01, 2023, 06:12:47 PM
Six-cylinder?
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 02, 2023, 02:00:39 AM
Sorry, as I said before, I have no information, which Ferrari-base it could be
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 02:37:03 AM
I highly doubt they'd ruin a genuine Ferrari in Argentina to build this.
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: gte4289 on October 02, 2023, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 02:37:03 AM
I highly doubt they'd ruin a genuine Ferrari in Argentina to build this.
Could be a Fiat Dino motor.
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 02, 2023, 02:59:33 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on October 02, 2023, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 02:37:03 AM
I highly doubt they'd ruin a genuine Ferrari in Argentina to build this.
Could be a Fiat Dino motor.
This is, what I think too, but have no proof about.
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 12:20:13 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on October 02, 2023, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 02:37:03 AM
I highly doubt they'd ruin a genuine Ferrari in Argentina to build this.
Could be a Fiat Dino motor.

Still... 'let's disassemble a Ferrari to build something which looks like a Ferrari but isn't a Ferrari' makes no sense in .ar.
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 02, 2023, 01:05:43 PM
Depends on the individual point of view. Apparently it made sense for the car's creator
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 02, 2023, 01:15:26 PM
If the builder started with a wrecked (destroyed) Ferrari, it could have sense. I think, maybe it was cheaper created something different than restored it
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: gte4289 on October 02, 2023, 01:31:19 PM
Considering the situation, and the fact that it's front-engined, I think the builder most likely started with something like this, then did what a lot of people do and said his car had a "Ferrari" engine.
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 02, 2023, 02:33:53 PM
Carlos Guerra, start with a Fiat 125, bespoke tubular chassis. No Ferrari involved
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Post by: gte4289 on October 02, 2023, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 02, 2023, 02:33:53 PM
Carlos Guerra, start with a Fiat 125, bespoke tubular chassis. No Ferrari involved
:applause:
Title: Re: FW #542
Post by: fromwien on October 02, 2023, 03:57:14 PM
Great found. Congratulation
Meanwhile I've found a lot of informations about the car:
Designation: "Ferrari Guerra Sport"
Builder: Carlos Alberto Guerra (Argentina)
Engine: Fiat 125B, 1608ccm, DOHC, 100 HP
Suspension: like Fiat 125, rear live axle
Front disc brakes, drums at the rear
Steering: Fiat 128
Fiberglass bodywork
It took him 26 years to complete this project since its beginnings
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #542: Ferrari Guerra Sport, Fiat engine, Argentina
Post by: fuerza on October 02, 2023, 04:36:22 PM
He should have stuck to the Fiat for 26 more years instead...
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #542: Ferrari Guerra Sport, Fiat engine, Argentina
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 02, 2023, 09:11:37 PM
Thank you!!
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