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Title: Solved: GTE 498 - 1964 Piccolo (Lancia-Ford special) by Peter Meffan
Post by: gte4289 on August 16, 2023, 04:34:34 PM
Please identify the car represented by this scale model for a point:
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 22, 2023, 12:14:18 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: Rusty Chrome on August 22, 2023, 12:38:59 PM
Tojeiro Jaguar?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 22, 2023, 12:44:29 PM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome on August 22, 2023, 12:38:59 PM
Tojeiro Jaguar?
Not that
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: richard fridd on August 22, 2023, 02:18:19 PM
Widi?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 22, 2023, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: richard fridd on August 22, 2023, 02:18:19 PM
Widi?
No, not Widi
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: hermanoto on August 23, 2023, 01:37:32 AM
Lister Costin Chevrolet , ca. 1959?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 23, 2023, 01:49:37 AM
Quote from: hermanoto on August 23, 2023, 01:37:32 AM
Lister Costin Chevrolet , ca. 1959?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 23, 2023, 07:49:29 AM
That looks like a Scalextric Lister-Jaguar.  Is it?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 23, 2023, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: D-type on August 23, 2023, 07:49:29 AM
That looks like a Scalextric Lister-Jaguar.  Is it?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 27, 2023, 05:28:59 AM
Maserati?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 27, 2023, 07:40:01 AM
Quote from: D-type on August 27, 2023, 05:28:59 AM
Maserati?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:50:25 AM
Lola?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:50:25 AM
Lola?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 28, 2023, 11:35:52 AM
What's left?  Ferrari?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: D-type on August 28, 2023, 11:35:52 AM
What's left?  Ferrari?
Not Ferrari.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: studhamsmudger on August 28, 2023, 12:14:29 PM
Osca?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: studhamsmudger on August 28, 2023, 12:14:29 PM
Osca?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:05:24 PM
Does it bear any resemblance to the car it is supposed to be modelling?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:05:24 PM
Does it bear any resemblance to the car it is supposed to be modelling?
Excellent question. I believe this model was sculpted by the car's builder and may have served a purpose in the car's creation. Based on that, I think it probably resembles the actual car.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on August 29, 2023, 01:41:18 PM
The WRE?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on August 29, 2023, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: D-type on August 29, 2023, 01:41:18 PM
The WRE?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on September 05, 2023, 12:33:24 PM
Elva?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 05, 2023, 12:34:26 PM
Quote from: D-type on September 05, 2023, 12:33:24 PM
Elva?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: frederick59 on September 06, 2023, 07:14:29 AM
Lotus XV?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: D-type on September 06, 2023, 08:12:48 AM
i'll take a step back.  Was it British? (the full size car)
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on September 06, 2023, 07:14:29 AM
Lotus XV?
No
Quote from: D-type on September 06, 2023, 08:12:48 AM
i'll take a step back.  Was it British? (the full size car)
No, though I believe British components were used.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 13, 2023, 01:21:10 AM
Pros?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: neilshouse on September 13, 2023, 01:29:29 AM
Perhaps an Elfin?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 13, 2023, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: neilshouse on September 13, 2023, 01:29:29 AM
Perhaps an Elfin?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: nicanary on September 13, 2023, 03:59:28 AM
Is it from Australia?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 13, 2023, 04:02:22 AM
Quote from: nicanary on September 13, 2023, 03:59:28 AM
Is it from Australia?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 20, 2023, 01:54:37 PM
Open to all.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 04:06:18 PM
Is it from Europe ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 20, 2023, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 04:06:18 PM
Is it from Europe ?
Partly
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 04:19:12 PM
European underpinnings under an American body ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 20, 2023, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 04:19:12 PM
European underpinnings under an American body ?
European underpinnings, but body isn't American.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 05:09:14 PM
Asian body ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 20, 2023, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 05:09:14 PM
Asian body ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 05:14:57 PM
South American body ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 20, 2023, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 20, 2023, 05:14:57 PM
South American body ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 01:43:32 AM
Body from New Zealand ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 03:07:18 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 01:43:32 AM
Body from New Zealand ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:25:08 AM
European body ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 04:29:17 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:25:08 AM
European body ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 21, 2023, 04:33:16 AM
South America?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 05:21:56 AM
Body from Africa ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 05:21:56 AM
Body from Africa ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 10:47:26 AM
Protea Triumph from South Africa ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 10:47:26 AM
Protea Triumph from South Africa ?
Not that
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 03:24:48 PM
Body from South Africa ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 03:24:48 PM
Body from South Africa ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
GSM ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
GSM ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:05:24 PM
Does it bear any resemblance to the car it is supposed to be modelling?
Excellent question. I believe this model was sculpted by the car's builder and may have served a purpose in the car's creation. Based on that, I think it probably resembles the actual car.

Does it mean you have never seen the actual car ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 04:48:29 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on August 28, 2023, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: D-type on August 28, 2023, 05:05:24 PM
Does it bear any resemblance to the car it is supposed to be modelling?
Excellent question. I believe this model was sculpted by the car's builder and may have served a purpose in the car's creation. Based on that, I think it probably resembles the actual car.

Does it mean you have never seen the actual car ?
Correct!
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:50:22 PM
Does it mean the "actual" car actually never existed ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 21, 2023, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 21, 2023, 04:50:22 PM
Does it mean the "actual" car actually never existed ?
It existed, but I've never seen a photo of it.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 12:51:39 AM
Was the actual car raced in South Africa during the fifties ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 01:11:41 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 12:51:39 AM
Was the actual car raced in South Africa during the fifties ?
Raced in South Africa, but not during the 1950s.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 01:34:54 AM
Raced during the sixties ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 01:39:25 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 01:34:54 AM
Raced during the sixties ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:38:59 AM
Schwabel Ford ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 04:44:27 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:38:59 AM
Schwabel Ford ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 04:55:53 AM
Peter Bolton's Tiger GT ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 04:55:53 AM
Peter Bolton's Tiger GT ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 11:01:21 AM
Bernie Podmore's Asta Sports ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 11:12:10 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 11:01:21 AM
Bernie Podmore's Asta Sports ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 11:16:38 AM
APM (Adrian Pheiffers Motors) Sports ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 11:16:38 AM
APM (Adrian Pheiffers Motors) Sports ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
Thompson 1500 ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
Thompson 1500 ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
Cornelius Koekemoer's Ford Consul Special ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
Cornelius Koekemoer's Ford Consul Special ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:16:21 PM
Joss Viljoen's Ford Frite ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:16:21 PM
Joss Viljoen's Ford Frite ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:35:14 PM
Gert Coetzer Special ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 03:39:47 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:35:14 PM
Gert Coetzer Special ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:54:06 PM
Was it raced between 1960 and 1965 ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 22, 2023, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2023, 03:54:06 PM
Was it raced between 1960 and 1965 ?
I don't know the exact years, but I think probably from 1965 onwards.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2023, 05:16:18 AM
Ford engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 23, 2023, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 23, 2023, 05:16:18 AM
Ford engine ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 06:23:47 AM
Fire ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 24, 2023, 01:42:03 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 06:23:47 AM
Fire ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:13:49 PM
Lolette ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 24, 2023, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:13:49 PM
Lolette ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:25:04 PM
Bramhill ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 24, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:25:04 PM
Bramhill ?
No

By the way, the car passed through the hands of multiple subsequent owners and was raced in different configurations and probably under various names. Since I don't have many of these later details, I can't rule out the possibility that one of your guesses could be a later iteration of the same car. But I'm looking for the car's creator, original name, and original mechanical composition.
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:39:09 PM
Graham Geoghegan's Gaygan ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 24, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 03:39:09 PM
Graham Geoghegan's Gaygan ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 04:43:17 PM
Mosden ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 24, 2023, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2023, 04:43:17 PM
Mosden ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 27, 2023, 04:57:10 AM
Marnoch Astor ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 27, 2023, 08:07:02 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 27, 2023, 04:57:10 AM
Marnoch Astor ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on September 27, 2023, 08:11:23 AM
Whitehouse / Westraad's Monza Mk I of Ecurie Tomahawk ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on September 27, 2023, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 27, 2023, 08:11:23 AM
Whitehouse / Westraad's Monza Mk I of Ecurie Tomahawk ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2023, 03:42:59 PM
This puzzle has been stalled for over a month now, so maybe it needs a little nudge in the right direction:

I think the key to solving this one is to focus on identifying the builder first (previously featured on AP and known for a different car ;)).
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:31:38 PM
Palbin ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:31:38 PM
Palbin ?
No, but that would make a good future puzzle!
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:41:01 PM
Harwin ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2023, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:41:01 PM
Harwin ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:54:41 PM
Peter Meefan ?
Title: Re: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2023, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 04:54:41 PM
Peter Meefan ?
Yes, by Peter Meffan. LOCKED for you.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 498
Post by: oko94 on October 31, 2023, 05:28:25 PM
Meffan's Lancia/Ford special 'Piccolo'.

"Clothed in a rolled aluminium body with both 200S and Lister 'knobbly' Jaguar attributes, Piccolo not only met the lightweight requirement at 485kg but also ranked high in the beauty race. Completed in 1964, it was swiftly sold to John Cooke in Johannesburg in order to finance my wedding. Piccolo then went with Jimmy Spillings to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) before working its way back to SA, where it was rebodied in fibreglass as an Alfa special – those who frequented the Randburg area in the 1990s may well have seen it doing the rounds."
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 498
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2023, 06:36:47 PM
 :thumbsup: :applause:
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 498 - 1964 Piccolo (Lancia-Ford special) by Peter Meffan
Post by: oko94 on November 01, 2023, 02:53:13 AM
Thanks for the hint !