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Title: FVK_314 Protos Typ D 16-46 PS 1919
Post by: Fёdor on August 07, 2024, 01:29:34 PM
Determine the make and model of this chassis
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Post by: Fёdor on October 12, 2024, 06:10:18 AM
Experts ?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 04, 2024, 07:51:03 AM
Pros ?
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Post by: ropat53 on November 05, 2024, 12:04:45 PM
French?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 05, 2024, 12:47:40 PM
No
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Post by: ropat53 on November 05, 2024, 03:02:12 PM
Belgian?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 06, 2024, 10:22:42 AM
No
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Post by: ropat53 on November 06, 2024, 10:52:39 AM
German?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 06, 2024, 11:58:17 AM
Yes
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Post by: ropat53 on November 06, 2024, 12:02:19 PM
Did they build cars after WWI?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 06, 2024, 10:46:28 PM
Yes
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Post by: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 01:37:04 PM
Did they build cars after WII?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 07, 2024, 10:11:37 PM
No
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Post by: Fёdor on January 20, 2025, 11:04:10 AM
Masters ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 20, 2025, 09:41:59 PM
There appears to be a dip or bulge in the frame rail. Did that serve to accommodate some unusual feature of the vehicle?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 20, 2025, 10:04:15 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 20, 2025, 11:26:21 PM
1921-1925?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 21, 2025, 12:25:45 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 12:43:14 AM
1918-1920?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 21, 2025, 10:44:45 AM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 01:45:34 PM
Anker?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 21, 2025, 02:30:52 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 02:42:26 PM
Union Bravo/Bravo?
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Post by: fromwien on January 21, 2025, 04:07:20 PM
Dinos?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 21, 2025, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 02:42:26 PM
Union Bravo/Bravo?
Quote from: fromwien on January 21, 2025, 04:07:20 PM
Dinos?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 10:29:53 PM
Utilitas?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 22, 2025, 06:11:25 AM
No
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Post by: Wendax on January 23, 2025, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 21, 2025, 12:43:14 AM
1918-1920?
Did the whole brand exist only between 1918 and 1920, or was just this model built then?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 23, 2025, 10:45:49 PM
No, not only during this period.
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Post by: gte4289 on January 24, 2025, 12:37:21 PM
Phänomen?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 25, 2025, 03:03:43 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 27, 2025, 07:04:14 PM
Did the brand/manufacturer produce cars automobiles before WWI?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 27, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on January 28, 2025, 01:57:35 AM
Did it produce cars after 1925?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 28, 2025, 02:40:30 AM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on January 28, 2025, 03:04:58 AM
After 1930?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 28, 2025, 10:28:10 AM
Yes. As part of another unification
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Post by: gte4289 on January 28, 2025, 11:19:59 AM
Horch?
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Post by: Wendax on January 28, 2025, 11:25:03 AM
Benz?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 28, 2025, 01:46:45 PM
2 x No
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Post by: gte4289 on January 28, 2025, 02:17:04 PM
Dixi?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 28, 2025, 02:33:25 PM
NAG?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 28, 2025, 10:42:57 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 28, 2025, 02:17:04 PM
Dixi?
No
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 28, 2025, 02:33:25 PM
NAG?
Yes. Part of this company.
Temporarily locked for you.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 29, 2025, 05:00:32 AM
A Protos?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 29, 2025, 07:18:57 AM
Yes
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 29, 2025, 09:04:39 AM
C1 10/30 PS?
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Post by: Fёdor on January 29, 2025, 10:37:43 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 30, 2025, 06:09:26 AM
the sources I have all say that the C1 was the only postwar model. So I am a little dumbfounded here
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Post by: Fёdor on January 30, 2025, 10:29:22 AM
Typ C1 10-45ps 1924–1927
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 30, 2025, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 30, 2025, 10:29:22 AM
Typ C1 10-45ps 1924–1927

Well,yes, over time it went from 10/30 to 10/45 and then 10/50.

But then my id of C1 was partly correct :)
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Post by: Wendax on January 30, 2025, 01:56:30 PM
There are different dates to be found:
Protos Typ C1 10/30 PS (1914-xxxx) -> Halwart Schrader, Deutsche Autos 1885-1920
Protos Typ C1 10/30 PS (1913/1914- xxxx) -> Hans-Heinrich von Fersen, Autos in Deutschland 1885-1920
Protos Typ C  10/30 PS (1913-1924) \
Protos Typ C1 10/45 PS (1924-1926) / -> Paul Gränz, Peter Kirchberg, Ahnen unserer Autos
Protos Typ C  10/30 PS (1913-1914, 1918-1924) \
Protos Typ C1 10/45 PS (1924-1927)                  / -> Werner Oswald, Deutsche Autos 1920-1945.

If it is not the 10/30 PS I have an idea what else it could be. Is it still locked?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 30, 2025, 07:58:04 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 30, 2025, 01:56:30 PM
If it is not the 10/30 PS I have an idea what else it could be. Is it still locked?
Same here. I've been patiently waiting. :)
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Post by: Fёdor on January 30, 2025, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 30, 2025, 01:56:30 PM
There are different dates to be found:
Protos Typ C1 10/30 PS (1914-xxxx) -> Halwart Schrader, Deutsche Autos 1885-1920
Protos Typ C1 10/30 PS (1913/1914- xxxx) -> Hans-Heinrich von Fersen, Autos in Deutschland 1885-1920
Protos Typ C  10/30 PS (1913-1924) \
Protos Typ C1 10/45 PS (1924-1926) / -> Paul Gränz, Peter Kirchberg, Ahnen unserer Autos
Protos Typ C  10/30 PS (1913-1914, 1918-1924) \
Protos Typ C1 10/45 PS (1924-1927)                  / -> Werner Oswald, Deutsche Autos 1920-1945.

If it is not the 10/30 PS I have an idea what else it could be. Is it still locked?
I know that these models are not in the books. In the recent past, two advertising sheets from 1919 were sold. Two other models were listed there.
Perhaps the old models were renamed in the post-war years, the power is suitable. I found information that the type C2 was produced before 1918.
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Post by: Fёdor on February 05, 2025, 02:53:59 AM
Open to all
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Post by: gte4289 on February 05, 2025, 03:01:29 AM
Protos Typ D 16-46 PS chassis?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 05, 2025, 03:29:15 AM
Correct !
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Post by: gte4289 on February 05, 2025, 03:58:19 AM
Thanks!

Another view:
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Post by: Fёdor on February 05, 2025, 04:41:02 AM
There is very little information about this model. I have another photo, but it's of poor quality. There was also a model B 14-38ps in this catalog, but the photo was not published. There are still many dark spots in the history of this company.
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