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Title: SOLVED: FW #409:Jeeva Transport Corp. L., Shri N. Ramakrishnan, Leyland Viking, 1986
Post by: fromwien on November 07, 2022, 05:44:50 PM
Please identify this bus: Coachbuilder? Designer? Base? Year?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on December 08, 2022, 03:16:50 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 09:59:11 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 06, 2023, 11:44:14 AM
Volvo 1958 by Aabenraa.
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 01:13:07 PM
I had your choice also on my radar for a next puzzle, but sorry, it isn't the bus I am looking for
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 06, 2023, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 01:13:07 PM
I had your choice also on my radar for a next puzzle, but sorry, it isn't the bus I am looking for

OK. It's not a Volvo, nor is it bodied by Aabenraa. Could it be Argentinian ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 02:12:36 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 06, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
Another Scandinavian coachbuilder ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 03:58:19 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 06, 2023, 04:57:46 PM
European ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 06, 2023, 04:58:20 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 06, 2023, 07:38:33 PM
From South America ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 07, 2023, 03:53:33 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Hiawatha on January 07, 2023, 09:02:34 AM
Japan?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 07, 2023, 12:09:32 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 07, 2023, 01:23:27 PM
From down under ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 07, 2023, 03:54:23 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 07, 2023, 04:23:11 PM
From Africa ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 07, 2023, 05:55:32 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 07, 2023, 08:30:17 PM
From USA ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2023, 03:37:28 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 08, 2023, 09:02:10 AM
From South America ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 08, 2023, 11:18:02 AM
From China ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Hiawatha on January 08, 2023, 11:39:05 AM
From a country driving on the left?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2023, 02:30:44 PM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 08, 2023, 03:10:49 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 08, 2023, 02:30:44 PM
Yes

Yes to pguillem or Yes to Hiawatha (or both) ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2023, 04:11:45 PM
Sorry,
Quote from: pguillem on January 08, 2023, 11:18:02 AM
From China ?
No
Quote from: Hiawatha on January 08, 2023, 11:39:05 AM
From a country driving on the left?
Yes
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 12, 2023, 12:28:42 PM
British ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 12, 2023, 04:02:51 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 12, 2023, 05:18:11 PM
Malta ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Hiawatha on January 13, 2023, 04:17:54 AM
India?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2023, 07:12:44 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 13, 2023, 09:24:32 AM
Eicher ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2023, 10:23:52 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 13, 2023, 11:17:11 AM
(Assuming that your last "Yes" was for India) Is it a bus of the KSRTC (Kerala) fleet ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2023, 02:38:12 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 13, 2023, 03:02:03 PM
Any relation with this APSRTC bus ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2023, 03:08:33 PM
Not to know about
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 13, 2023, 04:01:27 PM
Indian chassis and body ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 13, 2023, 06:12:17 PM
Not Indian chassis and body
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 13, 2023, 08:30:59 PM
Indian chassis ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2023, 02:22:23 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 14, 2023, 09:44:50 AM
European chassis ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2023, 12:01:50 PM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 14, 2023, 12:25:10 PM
Scandinavian ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2023, 03:01:49 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 14, 2023, 03:40:35 PM
British ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2023, 05:39:47 PM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 14, 2023, 08:49:46 PM
Optare ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 15, 2023, 10:10:07 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 15, 2023, 12:07:46 PM
Looking for a british coachbuilt bus in India. Ford ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 16, 2023, 03:18:53 AM
Not Ford chassis
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on January 16, 2023, 08:37:33 AM
British Leyland ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on January 16, 2023, 10:33:20 AM
Yes, Leyland
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 25, 2023, 02:37:23 AM
Masters?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on May 25, 2023, 04:11:02 AM
To be more specific, is it an Ashok Leyland ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 25, 2023, 03:22:58 PM
Very good question, but sadly I cannot answer correctly. Were searching about it, but without clear result
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on May 25, 2023, 04:15:12 PM
Is the coachbuilder still active ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 25, 2023, 05:28:17 PM
I don't know
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on May 26, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
Eicher ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 27, 2023, 04:08:43 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 27, 2023, 01:07:38 PM
Quote from: oko94 on May 25, 2023, 04:11:02 AM
To be more specific, is it an Ashok Leyland ?
I hope I can trust another source, which confirms Ashok Leyland for the chassis of this bus
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on May 27, 2023, 04:01:26 PM
Ashok Leyland Viking chassis ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on June 28, 2023, 12:01:21 PM
P.M.S. bus ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on June 28, 2023, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: oko94 on May 27, 2023, 04:01:26 PM
Ashok Leyland Viking chassis ?
Yes
Quote from: pguillem on June 28, 2023, 12:01:21 PM
P.M.S. bus ?
Sorry, no
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 08, 2023, 03:27:01 PM
Built in the seventies ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 08, 2023, 05:44:50 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: gte4289 on July 15, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
I probably have this scrambled and incomplete, but from what I understand, this seems to be the "Jeeva Jet," built by the Jeeva Transport Corporation for TNSTC-Erode (JTC) circa the mid-1980s.
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 16, 2023, 03:17:01 AM
Great! Yes, it is the 'Jeeva Jet' built by the 'Jeeva Transport Company'. Leyland Viking based, in the mid-80's (1986). Only one very small step missing for the point to find the designer?
LOCKED for you
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: gte4289 on July 16, 2023, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: fromwien on July 16, 2023, 03:17:01 AM
Only one very small step missing for the point to find the designer?
LOCKED for you
I don't have this information, unfortunately. Please unlock.
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 03:08:57 AM
OK, UNLOCKED
I'll give you a hint: There is a very close relationship between the designer and the 'Jeeva Transport Company'
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 05:16:30 AM
Cheran ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 10:21:31 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 11:25:25 AM
Devaraj Reddiar Rajaguruvan ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 02:31:22 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 02:34:00 PM
I would like to reinforce my hint: The designer was significantly involved in the fortunes of 'Jeeva Transport Company'
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 03:07:47 PM
Mr. Jeeva ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 03:18:14 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 03:23:37 PM
Has he also designed the Jeeva Bullet bus ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 04:07:04 PM
Maybe, but I don't know
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 04:18:42 PM
Was the designer the founder of the Jeeva Transport Company ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 17, 2023, 05:11:13 PM
Not founder, but managing director
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 05:41:26 PM
M. Veerappan ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on July 18, 2023, 03:29:01 PM
Any relation with the Vande Bharat bus of Rajasthan ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 23, 2023, 02:11:15 PM
it is the 'Jeeva Jet' built by the 'Jeeva Transport Company'. Leyland Viking based, from 1986. What we are still looking for, is the designer of the bus
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pguillem on July 23, 2023, 03:32:47 PM
Pallipalayam Body Building Unit ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: oko94 on July 23, 2023, 04:08:02 PM
Quote from: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 05:41:26 PM
M. Veerappan ?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on July 23, 2023, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: pguillem on July 23, 2023, 03:32:47 PM
Pallipalayam Body Building Unit ?
No
Quote from: oko94 on July 23, 2023, 04:08:02 PM
Quote from: oko94 on July 17, 2023, 05:41:26 PM
M. Veerappan ?
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: gte4289 on November 23, 2023, 02:18:20 AM
I found a (not particularly reliable) source that lists three people as being 'responsible' for the Jeeva Jet: Mr. Veerappan (mentioned above by oko94), K.A. Sengottaiyan, and S. Muthusamy (at the helm of the Jeeva Jet in my photo above). While searching for more information on these three, I learned (from more reliable sources) that Mr. Veerappan was Managing Director of Jeeva Transport at some point and that the other two were politicians. Veerappan and Sengottaiyan were later convicted and jailed for corruption involving government purchases of bus bodies, parts, and other components.

This doesn't identify the designer, of course. I just thought it might be interesting enough to add to the thread.
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 20, 2024, 12:57:37 AM
Could it be Dr M. Gramo?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on June 20, 2024, 01:31:13 AM
No, sorry, not him
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 20, 2024, 09:58:55 AM
I've found an sketch with some confused info:

"TN was #1 State in Pub Trspt. IRTTcollege Perundurai, JEEVAJETBus Erode-Cbe,NESAMONY NGL-CHN,KATTABOMMAN TNV-CHN,170H Spic Ngr-CHN ,Bodybldg by Pollachi Cheran, Vlp Periyar, Chrompet Pallavan wr Super Hits!..But Now Scrap!!"
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pnegyesi on August 20, 2024, 04:32:13 AM
*bump*
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on August 20, 2024, 04:45:42 AM
Not the designers name mentioned, sorry
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pnegyesi on August 20, 2024, 05:47:39 AM
Shivdas Meena?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: pnegyesi on August 23, 2024, 08:31:42 AM
*bump*
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on August 23, 2024, 09:55:34 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 14, 2024, 07:57:21 AM
According to some source: "This bus was designed at Tarapuram Jeeva Workshop and then given final shape at Chithod Workshop by Minister Mr. Muthuswamy."
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on October 14, 2024, 08:49:24 AM
To make things a little bit easier to solve this puzzle completely, here my source. The name I am seaarching for is hidden under the blackened field. Good luck to all  :)
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 14, 2024, 10:43:31 AM
Viswanathan?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on October 14, 2024, 10:52:57 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 14, 2024, 12:07:36 PM
Hariparanthaman?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on October 14, 2024, 01:07:48 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: gte4289 on May 01, 2025, 01:54:53 PM
Designed by Mr. S. A. Raja.
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: fromwien on May 01, 2025, 05:55:38 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: gte4289 on May 01, 2025, 06:06:13 PM
K. A. Sengottaiyan?
Title: Re: FW #409
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 17, 2025, 07:46:45 AM
Sangeeta Tamilnadu?
Ramakrishnan?
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #409:Jeeva Transport Corp. L., Shri N. Ramakrishnan, Leyland Viking, 1986
Post by: fromwien on September 17, 2025, 04:32:18 PM
Fantastic!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #409:Jeeva Transport Corp. L., Shri N. Ramakrishnan, Leyland Viking, 1986
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 18, 2025, 01:30:25 AM
Thank you!!