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Title: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: nicanary on May 18, 2014, 08:27:46 AM
Who built this car, what powered it, and where did it race?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on May 27, 2014, 09:54:01 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: shamrock on May 27, 2014, 10:43:49 AM
driver could be a young ricardo patrese , italy and alfa power
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on May 27, 2014, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: shamrock on May 27, 2014, 10:43:49 AM
driver could be a young ricardo patrese , italy and alfa power

You won't believe this, but I didn't notice that massive Alfa badge when I selected and posted the puzzle photo! Age is creeping up on me.

So, yes. Alfa power, but your other answers were way out.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: Majeko on May 31, 2014, 01:17:56 PM
Brazilian connection?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on May 31, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: Majeko on May 31, 2014, 01:17:56 PM
Brazilian connection?

Nothing to do with Brazil.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: shamrock on June 01, 2014, 04:15:35 AM
ASIAN ?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 01, 2014, 05:51:53 AM
Quote from: shamrock on June 01, 2014, 04:15:35 AM
ASIAN ?

Not Asian.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: shamrock on June 02, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
body shape based on the Porsche 917 spyder is it european
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 02, 2014, 07:07:11 AM
Quote from: shamrock on June 02, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
body shape based on the Porsche 917 spyder is it european

It was not built in Europe, although the builders were European in origin.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: frederick59 on June 02, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
did this car race in coupe de l'avenir?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 02, 2014, 08:08:12 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on June 02, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
did this car race in coupe de l'avenir?

Not that I know of - very unlikely.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: frederick59 on June 03, 2014, 08:02:33 AM
Is the original builder from France?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 03, 2014, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on June 03, 2014, 08:02:33 AM
Is the original builder from France?

Not from France.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: AlexFrance on June 03, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
Any connection with Sweden?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 03, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: AlexFrance on June 03, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
Any connection with Sweden?

Sorry, no.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: frederick59 on June 03, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
Italian builder?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 03, 2014, 12:18:06 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on June 03, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
Italian builder?

The builders originally came from Italy, but the car was not built there, and did not race there.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: Majeko on June 07, 2014, 03:30:48 PM
Argentina?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 07, 2014, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: Majeko on June 07, 2014, 03:30:48 PM
Argentina?

Not Argentina. Not South America.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: D-type on June 07, 2014, 07:32:49 PM
Australasia?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 08, 2014, 05:38:14 AM
Quote from: D-type on June 07, 2014, 07:32:49 PM
Australasia?

Sorry, no.
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: D-type on June 08, 2014, 06:06:38 AM
A half memory suggests it might be from Zambia?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 08, 2014, 06:10:12 AM
Quote from: D-type on June 08, 2014, 06:06:38 AM
A half memory suggests it might be from Zambia?

You hit the hot spot! It shouldn't take long now - who built it?
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: D-type on June 08, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
It was built by the Costa brothers from Kitwe, Zambia.  As far as I can ascertain it was simply named  "Alfa Romeo Special". Raced at Ndola, Zambia
Title: Re: NIC #200
Post by: nicanary on June 08, 2014, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: D-type on June 08, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
It was built by the Costa brothers from Kitwe, Zambia.  As far as I can ascertain it was simply named  "Alfa Romeo Special". Raced at Ndola, Zambia

Well done - that one was a bit obscure. It was indeed built by brothers Remo and Alberto Costa in the late 60s. Originally it was fitted with a 1570cc engine, but as the car was updated over the years it received a 1750cc engine and a Colotti 5-speed 'box.

Quite why they built the car is a bit of a conundrum. It complied with what at the time was Group 6 regs, but there were no other cars in Zambia to compete against in that class. So they usually finished up racing against saloons or in "libre" races.

One well-deserved point  to you.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: shamrock on June 09, 2014, 03:25:12 AM
Curious to know when the photo was taken , body shows strong Porsche 917 spyder influences so it must date from the early 70s
Title: Re: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: nicanary on June 09, 2014, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: shamrock on June 09, 2014, 03:25:12 AM
Curious to know when the photo was taken , body shows strong Porsche 917 spyder influences so it must date from the early 70s

My source for the photo had another picture taken at an earlier stage in the car's life - it was built in the late 1960s and had a more enveloping body, and the puzzle photo shows the car, as you say, in the 70s when the rear body had been abbreviated. No doubt the brothers kept track of race car development through magazines from Europe and the US. Zambia is hardly the place for up-to-the-minute  motor sport technology, with all due respect.

Unfortunately, I have just spent a few minutes trying to find my source photos, but they have been deleted from Google Images. All that is left is the puzzle photo, which is on a photostream site.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: nicanary on June 09, 2014, 08:20:18 AM
I have found the thread on the net. The car was improved as time went by, and was sold when the brothers left Zambia in 1973, Here is a photo of the car as first built, and the bodywork was later cut back in Porsche style to aid cooling. The car was actually a single-seater with offset driving position.

Title: Re: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: shamrock on June 09, 2014, 08:39:17 AM
Body shows a hint of lLANDAR ??
Title: SOLVED: FW #615: Costa Alfa Romeo Special, 1970, Zambia
Post by: fromwien on September 14, 2024, 06:13:46 PM
Please be so kind and identify this car
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: fromwien on October 08, 2024, 07:12:47 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: fromwien on October 20, 2024, 06:05:32 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: fromwien on November 19, 2024, 11:32:52 AM
Masters?
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 19, 2024, 12:05:38 PM
Looks very similar to this Porsche 917 Spyder Jûrgen Neuhaus 6o. Interserie 1971
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: fromwien on November 19, 2024, 02:01:19 PM
Sorry, but isn't the Neuhaus 917
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: Oguerrerob on November 19, 2024, 03:07:17 PM
But, is it Porsche 917?
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: fromwien on November 19, 2024, 06:50:38 PM
No, it's not a Porsche 917
Title: Re: FW #615
Post by: gte4289 on January 13, 2025, 09:36:22 PM
Costa Alfa Romeo Special built and raced in Zambia by Italian brothers Remo and Alberto Costa circa 1968. Fiat 850 chassis, 1570cc Alfa Romeo Giulia Spyder motor, VW gearbox.
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #615: Costa Alfa Romeo Special, 1970, Zambia
Post by: fromwien on January 14, 2025, 02:55:54 AM
Yes! Sorry, it's a repost (thank you, nicanary)
Title: Re: Solved NIC#200 - Alfa Romeo Gp.6 racer of Remo & Alberto Costa
Post by: gte4289 on January 14, 2025, 02:58:16 AM
Merged. Thanks for the point!