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Solved - NEH 5559: BMW City (E5) - 1967

Started by Carnut, June 06, 2020, 07:05:35 AM

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Carnut

What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
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Carnut

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fromwien


Carnut

It is a Glas, yes, and the BMW Touring was developed from it, so you're at least half way there.
But I still need answers to the other questions: what was it called, who was it by and from when does it date?
Locked for you.
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fromwien

Glas X2L Frua 1964/65

Carnut

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fromwien

1971 Glas/BMW Studio for a "Touring"-version, based on a BMW 1600

Carnut

Sorry, more Internet misinformation!

It's based on a Glas (which one?) but was known as a BMW..
Year is quite a long way out.
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fromwien

On the way, to solve this puzzle, you have sent me a link to an older solved puzzle,...
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2012-41/solved-neh-2248-frua-glas-10041704-x2l-prototype-1965/msg242593/#msg242593,...

... where the car on the picture has been identified as the "Frua Glas 1004/1704 X2L prototype - 1965"

I fear, that's totally wrong.
Here within, I send you a picture of a drawing, made in Frua-Studios, which shows a 3-door-berlina, named X2L, based on a Glas 1004.
The former 4-door puzzle-car isn't a "Frua Glas 1004/1704 X2L prototype - 1965", but "Frua Glas 1004/1704 Limousine II – Project X3L from 1964":
Comment 328: Stefan Dierkes, Uwe Gusen, Matthias Herrmann & Andreas Schey
(to check on pietro-frua.de-website:
"Four-door small car based on the Glas GT with an longer wheelbase (extended by 8 cm); Planned for 1968-production  with engines from 1.0 to 1.7 liters displacement as a successor to the Glas 1004–1304 (Rosellen 1985: p. 110).
Designation by Terasa (1984c) and later authors (Kraxenberger & Mader 2003, Gusen 2012) incorrectly X2L; This is how Pietro Frua called his stylistically related 2-door design."
See attachment

fromwien

No internet informations, all out of very confident car literature ("Libreria Automotoclub Storico Italiano, Torino" !!!)

Carnut

#10
You are correct about my earlier puzzle.
It may well have been sourced from incorrect web-based information at the time and the correct information might not have been available anywhere.  New info is being added all the time of course.
The 2-door X2L never actually progressed beyond renderings.
I'll change the title of my earlier puzzle; thanks.
Back to the new puzzle then....
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Carnut

Quote from: fromwien on June 21, 2020, 10:03:38 AM
No internet informations, all out of very confident car literature ("Libreria Automotoclub Storico Italiano, Torino" !!!)

Wherever it came from it doesn't appear to be correct..
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fromwien

I have sent you my infos to your puzzle previously:
Frua drew a 2-door hatchback-version (X2L) for Glas, based on a Glas 1004, in 1965. Two years later (Glas has been sold to BMW), Hans Werner Bönsch remembered about these drawings, and developed (together with Wilfried Ball) a hatchback-two-door-limousine, based on the X2L-drawings of Frua.

The base was still the Glas 1004 (you see the 5 wheel nuts, instead of 4 on the BMWs). At first, they planned to use the 60-HP-Glas-engine of the Glas1304,  later they chose BMW M10, out of the 1600-2.

Conclusio: Glas (base 1004)/BMW (engine) with Frua-based-bodywork, restyled by Bönsch and Ball

BMW 1600 Studio 1971

Carnut

BMW1600 Studio 1971 is not the right answer, as already said.

One more attempt before I unlock the puzzle.
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fromwien


Carnut

Quote from: fromwien on June 21, 2020, 02:20:59 PM
Glas 1600 Touring

No, none of those words are part of its name!
Open to all Rookies and Experts.
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fromwien


Carnut

No, but it does have a BMW moniker.
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fromwien


Carnut

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fromwien


Carnut

Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

fromwien


Carnut

No; it doesn't have any BMW or Glas numbers in it like 1600 or 1704.
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fromwien

Something with "...Klasse"?