Solved - Skut # 12 1897 Dei Donum by Messrs Ross & Alexander

[Skut]

 Not Estonia.

French
English
Swiss
German
Italian
Dutch
Belgian
Austrian
Spanish
Scandinavian
Estonia

[bsa]

ok, only two other baltic counties aspire to be Scandinavian: Latvia and Lithuania

[Skut]

French
English
Swiss
German
Italian
Dutch
Belgian
Austrian
Spanish
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania

I think I'd better give a broader hint before we run out of Europe. "FREEDOM !"

[bsa]

Hmmm. Freedom...
Then you said not English, did that include Scotland and Ireland?

[Skut]

Remember it's one guess at a time here but yes it's Scottish.  England definitely doesn't encompass Scotland.

[bsa]

Remember it's one guess at a time here but yes it's Scottish.  England definitely doesn't encompass Scotland.

Technically it was a yes or no question but then again - you were a bit cheeky yourself, then you said not English; Around the World, this typically implies the entire UK.
In any case. Thanks for your answer.

[bsa]

Arrol-Johnston ?

[Skut]

Not an Arrol-Johnston

you were a bit cheeky yourself, then you said not English; Around the World, this typically implies the entire UK.
In any case. Thanks for your answer.

On reflection I wouldn't say it was cheeky. I assumed that on a intelligent website the political & geographical differences between England & Scotland (let alone Ireland) wouldn't need much explanation.

[Carnut]

Remember it's one guess at a time here but yes it's Scottish.  England definitely doesn't encompass Scotland.

Technically it was a yes or no question but then again - you were a bit cheeky yourself, then you said not English; Around the World, this typically implies the entire UK.
In any case. Thanks for your answer.

I can't think of anyone anywhere who would consider it right to answer that a car made in Scotland is English.  It's actually rare for anyone here to ask if it's English; the question is usually "British?", knowing that includes any country in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[bsa]

Ok fellas, don't get your knickers in a twist. I get it. England doesn't include Scotland. I wasn't a straight-A student in school and besides, in Highschool, my education mainly focused on electronics.
Given that both of you have the UK as a location, I can see how what would be a much closer topic of distinction to you. That's fine. Let's move on.

[Rusty Chrome]

Madelvic?

[Skut]

Not a Madelvic

[Allan L]

Albion?

[Skut]

No

[Bill d isere]

Coulthard

[Skut]

No

[Bill d isere]

Caledon

[Skut]

No

[Rusty Chrome]

Alley & MacLellan?

[Skut]

No

[Bill d isere]

Belhaven ?

[Skut]

Not a Belhaven

[kwgibbs]

Argyll?

[Skut]

Not Argyll

[bsa]

Albion
Alley & MacLellan
Arrol-Johnston
Argyll
Belhaven
Coulthard
Madelvic
Made in Glasgow?