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Title: Car engines - NOT used in cars, trucks, motorcycles etc.
Post by: grobmotorix on January 10, 2011, 05:44:53 PM: This may be too off-topic, but it is interesting where many car engines did there jobs in other vehicles than cars or trucks etc.

So I´ve searched through my archive and looked for original ads to scan.

Any additional photos of other examples like the legendary Coventry Climax fire pump engine etc. are very welcome.

So, here´s part one.

VW and Porsche aircooled boxer engines:
Title: Re: Car engines in boats and other vehicles than just cars, trucks etc.
Post by: grobmotorix on January 10, 2011, 05:47:13 PM: Part two: other car manufacturer´s engines used in boats:
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Post by: DeAutogids on January 10, 2011, 06:23:10 PM: Cool topic...
I will do some digging and try to do the obvious and some surprises...
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Post by: Allemano on January 11, 2011, 06:57:39 AM: 12 cyl. BMW aircraft engined Mathea III:
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Post by: DeAutogids on January 11, 2011, 07:07:21 AM: (http://www.livingafloat.com/cb/cbe/2/daf1160.jpg)
It's pushing it a bit, as this is a DAF engine, probably more likely to have featured in their trucks.

(http://www.livingafloat.com/cb/cbe/2/kromhout2h3.jpg)
This another one like that, being a Kromhout. I believe they never ventured into cars.

(http://www.ms-leo.ch/Bilder/mbronsmo.jpg)
Brons most probably did try one passenger car, which we now would call a bus, around 1900 and trucks in the 1930's. Neither went beyond prototypes, but they did make some tractors.
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Post by: Aaron65 on January 11, 2011, 07:14:51 AM: Cool topic! I've always found myself looking at boats just to see what engine's underneath the engine cover...
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 11, 2011, 08:49:06 AM: Quote
12 cyl. BMW aircraft engined Mathea III

:o
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 18, 2011, 04:39:04 AM: Moved to Featured Images - and the front page. (http://www.autopuzzles.com)
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 18, 2011, 06:36:44 AM: Thank you. I hope there will be some nice contributions to this topic in future...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 29, 2011, 08:17:06 AM: Since we've already moved to aircraft engines from car makers, here's a tank engine from a maker of car engines...
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 29, 2011, 12:22:24 PM: A strange ad, indeed...
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Post by: Amsterdam on February 03, 2011, 03:25:22 PM: A small contribution ...
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Post by: grobmotorix on March 01, 2011, 03:58:13 PM: wow - this is huge, Amsterdam...

Here´s something new:
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Post by: Vincent Vell Vet on March 01, 2011, 11:26:32 PM: That first pic, the dude in the boat with the sun glasses...just plane bad ass!!!
Great thread my man!
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Post by: Amsterdam on March 03, 2011, 09:41:37 AM: .....Some more.
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Post by: Amsterdam on March 03, 2011, 09:55:29 AM: ....
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Post by: grobmotorix on March 03, 2011, 02:35:10 PM: !!!

Here´s a rare 1925 Packard ad:
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Post by: DeAutogids on March 23, 2011, 03:45:53 PM: (http://www.conam.info/images/stories/fabrikanten/Omnia-wals-auto-1909-2dehelft.jpg)
As you can see from this advert, Dutch car manufacturer Omnia made rollers as well.
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Post by: grobmotorix on March 23, 2011, 04:39:30 PM: Thank you!
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Post by: woodinsight on March 24, 2011, 05:04:21 AM: Although this topic is about car engines used in other forms of transportation, I thought I'd draw your attention to the power of the modern diesel and it's current use in the superyacht field.

The first photo shows a modern MTU marine diesel - model 16V595TE90 that develops 4320kW (5880ps) at 1800rpm

Four of these are installed in the 72.8m (239 ft) Russian owned superyacht PREDATOR as illustrated in the second photo. This outstanding vessel was built by Feadship in the Netherlands in 2008. Maximum speed 28 knots, fuel capacity 183,000 litres, accommodating only 6 guests with 19 crew.
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Post by: Allemano on March 26, 2011, 01:23:22 PM: This one doesn't fit as it has no specific car engine, but found it worth to post in this section of the board.
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Post by: grobmotorix on March 27, 2011, 03:51:51 PM: Must have been a loud pleasure!
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 17, 2011, 09:06:37 AM: Big mother outboard from Harrell
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Post by: grobmotorix on April 17, 2011, 11:26:22 AM: ^-^
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 23, 2011, 04:57:30 AM: The M24 Chafee "Lightweight" tank used two Cadillac Series 44T24 V8 engines.
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Post by: grobmotorix on April 23, 2011, 06:28:10 AM: Interesting, really.

Did they use one gear? I think I´ll have to do some research on this...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 23, 2011, 06:40:58 AM: Each had it's own Hydra-Matic transmission, and drove one of the tracks.
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Post by: hugo90 on June 12, 2011, 11:19:48 PM: I've read that Lloyd engines were used in snowmobiles, after the end of Borgward. Don't have any documentation.
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Post by: Allemano on July 05, 2011, 03:32:16 AM: From a current German oldtimer magazine:
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 17, 2012, 05:03:16 AM: How water rod
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 20, 2013, 02:15:30 PM: A new one:
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 06, 2013, 05:37:20 AM: :)
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Post by: Iluvatar on February 06, 2013, 06:59:49 AM: Alfa Romeo
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Post by: RayTheRat on February 06, 2013, 11:18:12 AM: Another photo of the Packard-engined Miss America X, built and "piloted" buy Gar Wood. It's from 1931 and was that boat's last run.

A little more about the motors. They were originally developed by Packard specifically for speedboats based on a motor used in a WWI Liberty bomber aircraft. However, as WWII seemed unavoidable, they were put back into production to be used in PT boats. Three V-12s were used in each boat. The power output was initially rated at 1200 hp each, but as they were developed further, the power increased to 1500 and finally 1850 hp. They were a little thirsty. At full speed they consumed 166 gallons of 100 octane avgas per hour. Each boat had a 3000 gallon fuel tank, which made them a floating incendiary bomb.

A total of 543 boats were built by 3 companies. (ELCO, Higgins and Huckins) At this time there is only one boat still fully functional and in the water. It's docked on the Willamette river in Portland, Oregon. I was able to tour it last year. It's been totally restored and is mind-boggling to a desert rat like me. While I was there, they fired up one of the 3 motors. It was LOUD in the engine room. The one WWII veteran who was part of the restoration group said that while at cruising or attack speed, those who operated the engines could only work for one hour at a time and when their shift was finished, they'd be completely deaf for the next 30 minutes or so. It must have been unreal to hear all 3 motors running at full speed...not to mention being aboard the boat at top speed, which was about 50 knots although some were modified by their crews to reach speeds over 70 knots for "unofficial plywood derbies." The term plywood is misleading, because they were built of mahogany planking with no plywood used at all.

I hope a contemporary photo isn't objectionable. I'm going to attach one of the engine room. It was pretty cramped and crowded which made a clean shot just about impossible, but the one I've attached shows 2 of the 3 motors. I have a number of photos on a website I run and to avoid link issues, I'll respond to a PM with the url.
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Post by: Allan L on February 06, 2013, 12:03:22 PM: Chap who designed the White Triplex car would find that spacious engineroom familiar in layout!
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5848.0;attach=24710;image)
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Post by: RayTheRat on February 06, 2013, 05:47:09 PM: Quote from: Allan L on February 06, 2013, 12:03:22 PM
Chap who designed the White Triplex car would find that spacious engineroom familiar in layout!

I'm sure he would. However and on the whole, the PT boats were more successful in the task for which they were designed than the Triplex. While Ray Keech did ok, Lee Bible's fatality is just another sad story in the history of LSR.
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 08, 2014, 02:37:05 PM: A french Buchet engine, used as a boat engine in 1905:
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Post by: Wendax on May 08, 2014, 02:38:50 PM: Kind of a Missisippi steam boat kit ;D
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 08, 2014, 05:46:29 PM: :D

Here are two DeDietrich engines used in boats in 1905:
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 15, 2014, 02:36:13 PM: Vincenzo Florios racing boat, fitted with a Mercedes car 6 cylinder engine, photographed in 1907:
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Post by: grobmotorix on August 25, 2014, 12:54:16 PM: Austro Daimler car engines, used in boats and light railways:
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 09, 2014, 10:08:25 AM: Mercedes 1915 speed boats:
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 27, 2014, 12:11:06 PM: A rather spectacular one:

Hans Stuck in his boat "Tempo", which featured the fabulous 16-cylinder Auto Union engine from his race car!
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Post by: grobmotorix on March 04, 2023, 07:02:05 AM: I almost forgot abou this thread.
Did you know, that in 1925 Packard also sold Chriscraft motorboats?

These days the last parts of the legendary Kahn-factory building in Detroit are removed.
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Post by: Johno on July 17, 2023, 02:32:02 PM: How about this? A VW powered Hovercraft
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Post by: grobmotorix on July 21, 2023, 08:17:46 AM: :thumbsup: