1954 Turin Motor Show (ex MPC#045)

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Paul Jaray

You left a juicy clue on the next car in your pic  ;)

Wendax

That clue shouts Opel Olympia Rekord to me.  ;)

Iluvatar

Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 08, 2014, 12:38:07 PM
You left a juicy clue on the next car in your pic  ;)
... deliberately ...   ;D
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Quote from: Wendax on June 08, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
That clue shouts Opel Olympia Rekord to me.  ;)
;)
Another correct guess!
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Paul Jaray

Could it be another 1900? In that stand we have a Giulietta Sprint, a 1900s and a 1900ss...don't think it's a C...could it be a TI?

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Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 09, 2014, 06:45:56 AM
Could it be another 1900? In that stand we have a Giulietta Sprint, a 1900s and a 1900ss...don't think it's a C...could it be a TI?
This one was alreaday identified by Ehhxekt on Reply #334...
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Paul Jaray

Ouch....I've got my plan B:
There's a MB 300.

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Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 09, 2014, 08:02:21 AM
Ouch....I've got my plan B:
There's a MB 300.
It should be correct...  :)
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targhediferro

Are we sure it's a MB 300 and not a MB 220? I have this doubt because of the roof shape, the top of the windscreen is more curved than 300's one, in my opinion. I asked to Paul Jaray why he decided for 300, and he told me that it depends on the split front bumper. Does anyone have a final word about it?

Wendax

I'd opt for the 220, because the 300 always had chrome A-pillars. Furthermore, on a picture of this quality you can't tell the difference between split bumpers and a single bumper optically divided by a plate. For comparison I'll attach a picture of the brand new 220 at Geneva in March, 1954.

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Quote from: targhediferro on June 10, 2014, 12:51:28 AM
Are we sure it's a MB 300 and not a MB 220? I have this doubt because of the roof shape, the top of the windscreen is more curved than 300's one, in my opinion. I asked to Paul Jaray why he decided for 300, and he told me that it depends on the split front bumper. Does anyone have a final word about it?
I should say that I'm not an expert in old (nor new) Mercedes... so I guess it should have been correct... but now I see there could be indeed a 220... because of the A-pillar, which looks chromed on the 300 and looks dark in the Turin pic...
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Quote from: Iluvatar on June 10, 2014, 05:20:48 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on June 10, 2014, 12:51:28 AM
Are we sure it's a MB 300 and not a MB 220? I have this doubt because of the roof shape, the top of the windscreen is more curved than 300's one, in my opinion. I asked to Paul Jaray why he decided for 300, and he told me that it depends on the split front bumper. Does anyone have a final word about it?
I should say that I'm not an expert in old (nor new) Mercedes... so I guess it should have been correct... but now I see there could be indeed a 220... because of the A-pillar, which looks chromed on the 300 and looks dark in the Turin pic...
:-\

I've been a lot on that pic before I made my decision.
There's also another clue...but of course I might be wrong.
I'm sending you an email...I don't know how to attach pictures via PM  :-\

Paul Jaray

...but I think you are right...what's the point in showing the old version?

Iluvatar

Ok... we can state that the car is a 220... the point for this car will remain not assegned...
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Paul Jaray

This one should be a 300s....(I hope!)

Wendax

And behind the 300 S you can see a Mercedes-Benz 220 Cabriolet (W 187), still built, although the saloon already changed to the new series.

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Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 11, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
This one should be a 300s....(I hope!)
Yes, the white car should be a 300S (cabriolet)
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Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2014, 02:04:51 AM
And behind the 300 S you can see a Mercedes-Benz 220 Cabriolet (W 187), still built, although the saloon already changed to the new series.
... what car are you referring too?
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Quote from: Iluvatar on June 12, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2014, 02:04:51 AM
And behind the 300 S you can see a Mercedes-Benz 220 Cabriolet (W 187), still built, although the saloon already changed to the new series.
... what car are you referring too?

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Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2014, 05:25:31 AM
Quote from: Iluvatar on June 12, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2014, 02:04:51 AM
And behind the 300 S you can see a Mercedes-Benz 220 Cabriolet (W 187), still built, although the saloon already changed to the new series.
... what car are you referring too?
If you mean the car beside the 300S cabriolet... I really cannot recognize it as a 220 cabriolet... do you have a better picture or something to prove your identification?
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Wendax

I don't have a picture from Turin 1954, but for comparison see the attached picture. The dark roof on the light body proves it to be a convertible, the length of the roof rules out the Cabriolet A, the curved front wing makes it a 220 and not a 300.

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Quote from: Wendax on June 12, 2014, 06:57:07 AM
I don't have a picture from Turin 1954, but for comparison see the attached picture. The dark roof on the light body proves it to be a convertible, the length of the roof rules out the Cabriolet A, the curved front wing makes it a 220 and not a 300.
You may be indeed right... but the picture is too bad for a proper identification, and I have no other info about it...
Can someone help the identification??  :)
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Ehhxekt

The white convertible behind the Kapitän looks like a Cadillac Eldorado...