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[Wendax]

So a Bulgarrenault 10 is fine for Bulgaria, because it has a different brand than a Renault 10, just as a ZAZ Chance, although it is just a licence-built Chevrolet Lanos?   

Anyway, here's another South African car: the Mascot Mini Buggy (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-djetset-698-mascot-mini-buggy-(south-africa)/)

[ChanceHuncha]

So a Bulgarrenault 10 is fine for Bulgaria, because it has a different brand than a Renault 10, just as a ZAZ Chance, although it is just a licence-built Chevrolet Lanos?   

Anyway, here's another South African car: the Mascot Mini Buggy (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-djetset-698-mascot-mini-buggy-(south-africa)/)

Those two fit in the rules because Bulgarrenault and ZAZ both are their own companies from their own countries. Maybe possibly if the BMW 2004 was built in South Africa by another company, It would've worked. But because it was a BMW from the factory still with the BMW name, It didn't fit in with the rules.

But it's all fine now that you've found another one. Just remember this for next time!

[chrisuru]

General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...

that wouldn't work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

[Oguerrerob]

General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...

that wouldn't work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

All of them were built by local manufacturers, including Indio (apparently none of them were built by GM). Based on a basic design and adapted to their local market

[Wendax]

Just remember this for next time!

I still have trouble understanding the rule. Is it: No matter where the car was built, it belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located? Then the BMW 2004 is German. If not, it must be South African.
Applying the above rule the Daewoo Matiz changed from being South Korean to US American when it was relabelled Chevrolet Matiz witout any other changes than the badges in 2005. And the Seat 133 was Spanish, but when it was built in Argentina as a Fiat 133 it was Italian? The Austrian-built Mercedes-Benz G turned from German into Austrian when the Puch badge was applied for the models for the Swiss and Austrian markets? The Hyundai Galloper was South Korean, except in Germany and Spain where it was Japanese, because it was sold as a Mitsubishi Galloper? I'm lost!

[chrisuru]

General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...

that wouldn't work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

All of them were built by local manufacturers, including Indio (apparently none of them were built by GM). Based on a basic design and adapted to their local market

It is a Uruguayan design and construction, backed by Uruguayan general motors, a local subsidiary imported the bedford engine ca, cf, and alfinal with opel or chevette ,it had nothing to do with the btv, gm project for underdeveloped countries



the body was much better developed, besides being stamped its side, hood etc

[ChanceHuncha]

Just remember this for next time!

I still have trouble understanding the rule. Is it: No matter where the car was built, it belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located? Then the BMW 2004 is German. If not, it must be South African.
Applying the above rule the Daewoo Matiz changed from being South Korean to US American when it was relabelled Chevrolet Matiz witout any other changes than the badges in 2005. And the Seat 133 was Spanish, but when it was built in Argentina as a Fiat 133 it was Italian? The Austrian-built Mercedes-Benz G turned from German into Austrian when the Puch badge was applied for the models for the Swiss and Austrian markets? The Hyundai Galloper was South Korean, except in Germany and Spain where it was Japanese, because it was sold as a Mitsubishi Galloper? I'm lost!

I know it's confusing, but you are correct. It belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located. This is rarely a problem now, especially this late in the game. Because only 1 or 2 cars and brands could possibly be ever located from smaller countries. But South Africa was just one of the examples of a larger country with many more cars to be found. I wanted to focus on roots of companies even though they were sold in a certain country where they may not have originally started because I truly wanted to see how many locally grown brands there could be around the entire world. But besides that, here's the best example of the rule i'd originally made.

Zagato Perana Z-One. A car based in South Africa, holds the Zagato name strongly, even though it is Italian. And even if the work of designing and building all happened in Italy, It would still count as South African. Because thats where it grew from. This may not happen again because all the bigger countries are used up already. Not only do you have to think about the car, you have to think about the brand and badge as well.

[Oguerrerob]

Costa Rica: Panda Mobility's Wheelchair Accessible Trike

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/ogb-42-name-this-vehicle/

[DeAutogids]

Budvanska 1937 Mercedes Benz by Slavka Beronje Krajina

[Oguerrerob]

Mongolia: Made in Mongolia Chaser engine by V Dashnyam 2013

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/ogb-44-name-this-car/

[Oguerrerob]

Azerbaijan: Tot-Az by Oktay Rzayev 2017

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/ogb-45-name-this-car/

[ChanceHuncha]

Democratic Republic Of The Congo - Manace Kipesi's home made 'Mobile Garage' with a built in generator on the back.

[Oguerrerob]

Budvanska 1937 Mercedes Benz by Slavka Beronje Krajina

Montenegro: Budvanska 1937 Mercedes Benz by Slavka Beronje

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/jc-the-sixth-in-2018/

[ChanceHuncha]

Grenada: Jason Vera's Evo Drag Car. Dragged in the Geneva Motor Clubs International Drag Race.

[DeAutogids]

That's just a mildly modified Evo?

[ChanceHuncha]

Yeah. But modified cars are allowed. I've done things like this before with countries like Honduras. I did it to loosen up the rules so we dont have to deeply hunt for things.

[DeAutogids]

I'd say, take a look at the puzzles of Oguerrob or me to see that there is loads of potential. We're not in some hurry, are we?

[DeAutogids]

For example, the American Virgin Islands have a car make - I think it was featured here

[Oguerrerob]

I think almost all countries have a (at least one) car, we should just look for them.

[DeAutogids]

I think almost all countries have a car, we should just look for them.

And make puzzles

[Oguerrerob]

Uzbekistan: Uzbekistan Rashidov by Nasir Rashidovich 1980

[Oguerrerob]

Some major producers still overlooked!
South Korea: the lovely Kia Stinger

South Korea is already posted and is not in the list

[ChanceHuncha]

Cameroon: Electric Car from the Instituit Universitie de la Cota with a face melting 1 hp motor!

[ChanceHuncha]

Kuwait: Air Car By Fahad Al-Eid and Ahmed Al-Ali

[ChanceHuncha]

Tanzania: TATC Nyumbu