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Title: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on May 02, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
I will begin today by stating that I have developed an extensive collection of alcohol over a period of time.   I don't drink a lot but when I do it I enjoy learning all about different types of liquors and alcohols.  This thread will be an exploration of many different types of whisky I have in the basement.  I will taste and report on them every once in a while and I would hope that any and all of you will be willing to give your own tasting notes of any whisky you may imbibe.

Some of the Scotches you can look forward to reading about here include

Glenmorangie 12 year old Port wood finish Single Malt
Glenmorangie 12 year old Sherry wood finish Single Malt
Glenmorangie 12 year old Madeira wood finish Single Malt
Glenmorangie 12 year old Burgundy wood finish Single Malt
Macallan 10 year old Single Malt
Glenfiddich 12 year old Single Malt
Glendronach 12 year old Single Malt
Talisker 10 year old Single Malt
Caol Ila 15 year old Single Malt
Lagavulin 18 year old Single Malt
Chivas Regal Royal Salute 21 year old blended Scotch Whisky
Maclellan Sherry wood finished 10 year old Single Malt Scotch Whisky
Chivas Regal blended 12 year old Scotch Whisky

and a few other high end and standard Scotches.


After the Scotches are finished we shall move into American Whiskeys.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: faksta on May 02, 2009, 12:47:37 PM
One scotch every night will lead to reports like this:
QuoteWoooohhhooo!!! thsat scotdfh is goowd..  :drink:
On a serious note, I would enjoy this thread  :nod:

P.S. I have a smooth feeling it is a way Ultra wants to popularize the Must Post thread. Each time visiting this thread the chance to see the Must Post increases  ;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 02, 2009, 07:00:32 PM
Quote from: faksta on May 02, 2009, 12:47:37 PM

On a serious note, I would enjoy this thread  :nod:


Drop by and have a Scotch.   I might even break out the 21 year old Glenlivet Archive for that.

;)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Bezor on May 03, 2009, 01:32:52 AM
One of my favs.
http://www.thewhiskyguide.com/Highlands/Dalmore.html

Usually fall/winter is the time I like single-malts.

There is a super smokey/peaty single-malt which I can't recall at the moment (I'll search more for it) that has a white lable and green glass bottle.  It's aroma and after taste absolutely knocks my socks off. 

......a bit more time and I found it:  http://www.scotchwhisky.net/malt/laphroaig.htm

I've had Dalwhinnie, but it was flat to me.  It just didn't have the complexity of aroma and after taste for the money for me to buy it again. http://www.scotchwhisky.net/malt/dalwhinnie.htm

Caol IlA Distillery
(http://www.scotchwhisky.net/images/dist/caol_far_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ray B. on May 03, 2009, 04:52:29 AM
What about Irish and Canadian?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 04:59:51 AM
Quote from: Ray B. on May 03, 2009, 04:52:29 AM
What about Irish and Canadian?

I'll get to Irish as well.  Not a big fan of Canadian Whiskeys.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: faksta on May 03, 2009, 05:20:54 AM
What did you collect apart from Scotches and Whiskeys?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 05:29:33 AM
Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2009, 05:20:54 AM
What did you collect apart from Scotches and Whiskeys?

Wines, Gins, Vodkas, Beers, Tequilas, Rums and assorted other Liqueurs and sundries.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: metalshapes on May 03, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
I have a bottle of Dewar's white label.
( because I felt like a change of pace after drinking Famous Grouse for many years )

And a bottle of 15 year old single malt Glenfiddich for special occasions.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: metalshapes on May 03, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
I have a bottle of Dewar's white label.
( because I felt like a change of pace after drinking Famous Grouse for many years )

And a bottle of 15 year old single malt Glenfiddich for special occasions.

I've never had Famous Grouse.  i believe it is a blend.  Would love to know its flavor characteristics.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: metalshapes on May 03, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: metalshapes on May 03, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
I have a bottle of Dewar's white label.
( because I felt like a change of pace after drinking Famous Grouse for many years )

And a bottle of 15 year old single malt Glenfiddich for special occasions.

I've never had Famous Grouse.  i believe it is a blend.  Would love to know its flavor characteristics.

I think its nice...

Try it.  :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 09:55:08 PM
Glendronach.  A 12 year old Highland single malt aged in American Oak and finished in Sherry casks.

http://www.glendronachdistillery.com/

Tonight's dram and all future installments will be served on the rocks:

Faint hint of smoke and peat on the nose.  Ice left to activate gives the whisky a butterscotch color.  Light yet clearly defined smoke profile on the palate, more than is typical for a Highland Single malt, IMHO, also earthy with orange citrus hints in the mix.  Very smooth with little to no alcohol burn.   Wisps of iodine and peat on the finish. 

A satisfying, worthy nightcap with more depth than many Highland single malts.   

Recommended.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Bezor on May 06, 2009, 01:01:57 AM
Quote from: Ultra on May 03, 2009, 09:55:08 PM
Glendronach.  A 12 year old Highland single malt aged in American Oak and finished in Sherry casks.

http://www.glendronachdistillery.com/
Faint hint of smoke and peat on the nose.  Ice left to activate gives the whisky a butterscotch color.  Light yet clearly defined smoke profile on the palate, more than is typical for a Highland Single malt, IMHO, also earthy with orange citrus hints in the mix.  Very smooth with little to no alcohol burn.   Wisps of iodine and peat on the finish. 

Recommended.

Nice!

Good tasting notes.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 06, 2009, 01:45:14 AM
Quote from: Bezor on May 06, 2009, 01:01:57 AM
Nice!

Good tasting notes.

Thx.

:drink:
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on May 15, 2009, 06:15:39 PM
New tasting tonight.

8)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: porridgehead on May 16, 2009, 01:11:13 AM
I used to be a Scotch drinker, but gave it up for no good reason that I can think of right now. The following has nothing to do with the thread thus far, other than it has to do with Scotch.

At one point I somebody asked what scotch to bring to a Christmas party. Keeping in mind my avatar, this is how I responded:

Ahhh, 'tis an oft asked question: what libation to bring to a Christmas party? Should it be of such esoteric high quality that even the most discerning of epicureans will purse their lips and salivate with anticipation? Should one  perhaps select the more approachable middle ground that will satiate gourmets and impress novitiates, while remaining affordable so that one doesn't appear crassly ostentatious?
The answer is, of course, none of the above. Let's face it, we're talking a Christmas party here and if the party's any good whatsoever everybody will get so blotto that the only lip pursing that's going to take place will be in the pile of coats in the guest bedroom. And if that doesn't happen, then the hell with them anyways because they obviously don't know how to party and it's a damn good thing that you didn't waste the good stuff on that bunch of stiffs. In any case, do you really want to impress these people with how you can squander money on an exceptional bottle of liquor that some complete stranger off the internet recommended? Sure, it's fine if you're giving a gift of appreciation, or if you hang around with sniffy pinky extender types, but for this kind of fete, there's only one thing to do: aim straight for the gut.
That's right, you want a scotch that has a kick on it like a steelworkers armpit, something that puts hair on your back, sets your teeth on edge and renders at least one side of your body partially paralyzed. You want a liquor that you can hold up to the light, peer through the murky depths and utter such pithy ponderables as "Say, is that a toenail in there?" The scotch you seek needs a nose redolent of burning tires, low tide and a nasty infection with little aftertaste but heavy afterburn. If it doesn't say, "if swallowed, do not induce vomiting" you had best steer clear. Nothing less will bring out the best in a party, especially since nothing says 'Happy Holidays'  like the gift of the Heimlich.
So, with these simple rules in mind, my recommendation is Clan MacGregor. It's only US$12.97 a fifth at your local rotgut emporium. It's a sturdy scotch with a stout handle, should the need for hand-to-hand combat arise. And boy, will it ever, for this is not an effete scotch to delicately sip and dwell over the  nuances of the fragrances wafting from the tumbler. If you do, you will be treated to not only an inflamed esophagus, but a large amount of burned nostril hair.
No, this is a scotch to toss back with abandon, slam down the tumbler, stand on the chair and rip off your shirt. It's a scotch that all but screams "Bottoms up means face down!" There has never been a finer howl-at-the-moon scotch than Clam Macgregor and your friends will not only appreciate the subtly of the resultant sledgehammer hangover, but they will gain a great deal of perspective of exactly what kind of man you are.
Drink it neat, drink it on the rocks, hell drink it with Pepcid AC for all I care, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference what you do to it because it still tastes exactly the same: offal. I guarantee you that you will have people talking about the day you brought Clan MacGregor to the party for years to come. Not to mention the subsequent bruises, court cases, insurance settlements and medications.  And isn't that really what a Christmas party is all about?

As always, happy holidays, drive sober, be safe and do try to not wind up sleeping in a Goodwill box again.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Bezor on May 25, 2009, 02:06:32 AM
^^^ :lmao:^^

Cleverly stated and very true.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Allemano on May 25, 2009, 02:47:24 AM
some of those literary effusions escapes me, but the rest is quite amusing and coincides with my own experiences... ;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: faksta on June 23, 2009, 04:11:46 PM
I'm now having William Lawson's Blended Scotch Whisky from William Lawson Distillers Ltd. Glasgow & Macduff. I can't describe it the way Ultra does, but it's not bad at all  :D
The only thing that puzzles me is that I couldn't find it's age neither on bottle nor on tube.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: D-type on July 08, 2009, 05:15:47 PM
I once bought a bottle of Bowmore, an Islay malt, but I'm not sure as to which variant: it was either the one with seagulls or the one with yachts on the label.  It was, to put it mildly, horrible.  The best description I can think of is that it tasted like kerosine, or like I imagine kerosine would taste.  I mentioned this to a whisky expert (the salesman at the World of Whisky at the airport) and he admitted "Yes, they are a bit phenolic" as he gave me another Bowmore to try.  It wasn't as bad, but still tasted, well, "phenolic".
I'll stick to Glen Grant or Talisker whenI can get it.

Incidentally,has anybody come across French whisky?  I saw it in a shop in Taiwan, I think it was called "Golf Club".  The story goes that Japan or somewhere put a very high import duty on Scotch and Irish hooch, and on Bourbon and Rye, so an enterprising importer persuaded a French brandy maker to have a try.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Allemano on July 08, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
The Japanese have a weak point for Suntory if I remember correctly (Lost in Translation)
I didn't dare to take part at that sophisticated discusssion, but yes I also like the mild tasting Glen Grant the most.
Least I like Tullamore Dew. It's pure soapy water IMHO.

My favourite liqueur is old Havanna Club rum, but that's a little off-topic I guess!
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on July 10, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
I have been drinking Bourbon lately so it has been hard to contribute to my own thread.  I think I am going to just start talking about all Whiskies here and then I will have more to say.

;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on July 19, 2009, 05:49:50 PM
Wild Turkey Rare Breed Barrel Strength Bourbon.  Rare Breed is a "barrel-proof bourbon," meaning it is bottled directly from a variety of barrels at the proof it reaches in those barrels, with no added water to lower the proof or dilute the flavor.

This bourbon is a unique marriage of Wild Turkey 6-, 8- and 12-year-old stocks, which give the whiskey a rich, exceptional flavor that is remarkably smooth, considering its high alcohol content. It is assertive with hints of light oranges, mint, and tones of sweet tobacco that will remind you of your grandfather's pipe-bowl. The finish is long, warm and nutty and lingers in the mouth with hints of hot peppers and well-toasted whole wheat bread.

Jimmy Russell keeps his Rare Breed in the freezer so he doesn't have to add ice, which would melt and ultimately dilute the flavor.

Rare Breed is the recipient of a Gold Medal at the 2000 San Francisco World Spirits Competition.

I had mine on the rocks.  Before it hit the rocks it had a cherry wood color.

  I found it complex on the nose with vanilla, citrus, and honey.   Those aromas carry over into the taste with molasses and caramel mid palate.  Concludes more like a Rye whiskey with pepper and spice into a long and lingering finish..  The smoothness belies the proof.  This is one fantastic sippin' Bourbon and does Master Distiller Jimmy Russell proud.

Very nice.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on July 19, 2009, 06:04:19 PM
Henry McKenna Single Barrel bourbon is the only extra-aged Bottled-in-Bond Single Barrel Bourbon in the world, indicating it meets exacting U.S. government standards for age and proof. Every bottle is filled entirely from a single barrel that has aged through 40 Kentucky seasons (10 years).  100 proof.

This is brown with a very clear, light amber color.

On the nose it is spicy with a hint of sweetness.  I smell pepper, citrus and a light, almost floral tone to the smell.

This one is very smooth up front, based on the high alcohol content smoother than I would have thought, and I pick up a mixed bag of flavors. Caramel and complex spiciness and an oily texture as the McKenna's washed through my mouth.  Spicy is the watch word here, but you can reign in the bite a bit with judicious ice cube addition.

I like the Wild Turkey a little better but both shine.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on July 19, 2009, 07:47:43 PM
OLD GRAND DAD 114-Barrel Proof Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.

The color is a brown with an almost orange hue.  On the nose the rye and alcohol work together to overpower the other aromas .... until .... time in the glass offers some vanilla, corn and oak. A potent nose by any measure.

Upon reaching the palate there is a citrus sweetness soon displaced by a serious rye and alcohol bite that is to be expected in a high proof bourbon. The flavor is quite good and rich layered with corn and honey with a strong and lasting finish hinted with oak and vanilla.
Overall:   If, and when, you want a strong and rich bourbon at a reasonable price Old Grand Dad 114 is an excellent choice.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Bezor on September 20, 2009, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 08, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
The Japanese have a weak point for Suntory if I remember correctly (Lost in Translation)
I didn't dare to take part at that sophisticated discusssion, but yes I also like the mild tasting Glen Grant the most.
Least I like Tullamore Dew. It's pure soapy water IMHO.

My favourite liqueur is old Havanna Club rum, but that's a little off-topic I guess!

Speaking of Suntory, this just popped into my inbox.

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/nl/nlsep09-1-tws.html (http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/nl/nlsep09-1-tws.html)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Bezor on November 08, 2009, 12:30:17 AM
Hate to reply to my own reply...

I just got a bottle of 10 year old Laphroaig.

This has always been heavy on the peat smoke.  Drink it and it's like hitting a cigar at the same time.

This vintage though has much less up front smoke (frankly a reason to buy Laghroaig).  Seemingly though there is a new twist on the old tasting notes.  This vintage has a really long finish of butterscotch that I've never noticed before.

http://www.thewhiskystore.de/experts/peat.htm
Title: Re: Let's talk about Scotches
Post by: Ultra on November 09, 2009, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: Bezor on November 08, 2009, 12:30:17 AM
Hate to reply to my own reply...

I just got a bottle of 10 year old Laphroaig.

This has always been heavy on the peat smoke.  Drink it and it's like hitting a cigar at the same time.

This vintage though has much less up front smoke (frankly a reason to buy Laghroaig).  Seemingly though there is a new twist on the old tasting notes.  This vintage has a really long finish of butterscotch that I've never noticed before.

http://www.thewhiskystore.de/experts/peat.htm


I have got some Laphroaig in the bar.  Too smoky for my preferences.

The current list open at my bar.

    Bourbons

    Bulleit
    Wild Turkey 101
    Wild Turkey Rare Breed
    Woodford Reserve
    1792
    Jim Beam
    Jim Beam Black 8 yr
    Henry McKenna BIB 10 yr Single Barrel
    Old Grand Dad BIB
    Old Grand Dad 114
    Basil Hayden 8 yr
    Evan Williams Single Barrel
    Eagle Rare 10 yr
    Fighting Cock
    Elijah Craig 18 yr
    Woodford Reserve Masters Collection Seasoned Oak Finish
    Russell's Reserve 10 yr
    Weller Special Reserve 7 yr
    Makers Mark Red Wax
    Rebel Yell Reserve
    Jefferson's Presidential Reserve 17 yr (Very Special Stuff)

    Tennessee

    Jack Daniels Single Barrel
    Gentlemen Jack
    Jack Daniels
    George Dickel 12

    Rye

    Wild Turkey 101
    Russells Reserve 6 yr


    Canadian

    Forty Creek Port Wood Reserve
    Forty Creek Double Barrel Reserve
    Forty Creek Barrel Select
    CC 8 yr w/Sherry finish
    Crown Royal

    Scotch

    Chivas Regal Royal Salute 21 yr
    Glenlivet 21 yr
    Glenmorangie Port 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Sherry 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Madiera 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Burgundy 12 yr
    Glendronach 12 yr
    McClellan 10 yr Sherry Finish
    Chivas
    Dewars
    JW Black
    Caol Ila 14 yr
    Talisker 10 yr
    Lagavulin 16 yr
    Glenfiddich 12 yr
    Glenlivet Nadurra 16 yr

    Irish

    Jameson 12 yr
    Tullamore Dew

    American Blended

    Seagrams 7

    Ordered and waiting on arrival:

    George Stagg 15 yr Unfiltered Cask strength Bourbon
    Sazerac 18 yr Rye
    Bernheims Wheat Whiskey
    Hancock Reserve Bourbon
    Rock Hill Farms Bourbon
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on November 10, 2009, 01:40:35 AM
Woodford Reserve Master Collection Seasoned Oak - Rich, smooth, stays with you on the palate with a bakers chocolate and smoke action. Very nice. Advantages of old bourbons without the woodiness or muskiness. Darkest bourbon I have ever seen.

Elijah Craig 18 Single Barrel - Very mild for this age. Great price. Butterscotch on the nose with honey, heather, caramel, butterscotch and smoky oak notes on the finish. A good top shelf pour.

Jefferson's 17 yr old Presidential Reserve - I had the tiniest taste. Reserving it for tonight's highlight. The taste I had last night, after 3 other bourbons, all I'll say so far was that my first impression is that the Stitzel Weller rep is justified if this is any example. It tastes like they deserve all the credit they get.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on November 18, 2009, 12:09:03 AM
Added a Rock Hill Farms Single Barrel 100 proof today.  Beautiful packaging.  Very smooth.  Definitely get corn and oak with wheat and caramel.  light on the nose and the palate.  Very easy drinking Bourbon. 

Had a little more of the Jefferson's the other night.  The finest Bourbon I have ever had.  So many things are going on in that glass.  You really get a fantastic whiskey experience every sip. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on November 18, 2009, 08:37:28 PM
Recently I had my first bottle of Glenmorangie (over a week), but wasn't too ecstatic about it.
Next time I will try the Japanese Suntory label which costs really a lot money for a few drops.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on November 19, 2009, 04:13:45 AM
Always wanted to try Suntory but I never see it around here. I guess I will have to order it if I want it.

Let me know what you think of it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on November 19, 2009, 04:26:18 AM
enough to get hooked on this? (the big bottle is about € 105,-  :-\ )

http://cgi.ebay.de/SUNTORY-HIBIKI-the-old-Japan-50-ml-17Yrs-mini-sample_W0QQitemZ150310725298QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSpirituosen?hash=item22ff37a6b2
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on November 19, 2009, 04:32:36 AM
for a bargain..
http://www.luxist.com/2006/04/05/rare-1937-glenfiddich-sold/
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on November 19, 2009, 04:56:28 AM
I added a Bernheim's Original Wheat Whiskey, a Jefferson's Reserve Bourbon and a Hancock Reserve Bourbon to the collection today.  The Bernheims is the easiest drinking whiskey, mild and very much in the vein of a heavily wheated bourbon without as much flavor.  The Jefferson's Reserve is a full flavored, smooth affair but not at all reminiscent of the Presidential reserve that came from Stitzel Weller before they shuttered the place. The Hancock is smooth and easy on the palate and very reminiscent of the Rock Hill farms brought into the fold yesterday.

Probably not going to add too many whiskeys for the next little while.  Between all of these and the limited release Forty Creek Port Wood Whiskey I acquired on Sunday the whiskey budget is completely blown for now.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on November 20, 2009, 12:52:29 AM
Tonight's dram is a Henry McKenna Bottled in Bond Single Barrel Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.  Full flavored with caramel, honey, corn and rye. Oily on the palate.  Finished with a little spicy heat.   Definitely got rye in this mash-bill.  A unique spirit in the Bourbon world Henry McKenna is the only Bottled in Bond 10 year old Single Barrel Bourbon on the market today.  A flavorful pour you can be proud to serve a guest.

Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 05, 2009, 12:39:24 AM
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/SIMG0009.jpg)

Tonight's dram:

Elijah Craig 18 yr Single Barrel
(http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/images/products/0010000011241_L.JPG)

The taste is full, but not overwhelming in any dimension, with a finish of honey and smoked oak.  As it opens flavors of oak and char step up to greet you with a smack of butterscotch on the finish. It opens up on the nose with some vanilla, corn and rye. I cannot get over this finish. It has changed every 5 min.

So far:
Heavy smoke oak and leather
Smoked light oak and light leather
Vanilla and smoked oak with light leather and corn with pepper
Strong vanilla with some fruit and then smoked oak... leather is almost gone.
Corn, vanilla, smoke and oak... the smoke has strengthened again.
Last taste is sweat molasses and cream... just incredible.

Very affordable top shelf pour.  Highly recommended!

Suntory's Yamazaki 12 yr is on order!
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 05, 2009, 06:18:27 AM
*hic*
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on December 05, 2009, 06:30:07 AM
Is it your basement party room? Reminds of Ami Winehouse's favourite cocktail: "liqueur with liqueur"...
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 05, 2009, 11:39:59 AM
It is my basement recording studio, actually.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on December 05, 2009, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: Ultra on December 05, 2009, 11:39:59 AM
It is my basement recording studio, actually.
Rock 'n' Roll..
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 05, 2009, 03:03:58 PM
http://lachinemachine.com/joey/YouAndMe.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/joey/friend.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/joey/help.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/MerryGoRound.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/WalkingToMyBaby.mp3

http://www.autopuzzles.com/mp3s/Sextasy.mp3 (God I wish Joey would record the vocals to this one)

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/TheThrillisGone.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/SugarCoatedLove.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/ToreDown.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/RockMeBaby.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/JustALittleBit.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/LongGreyMare.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/ShakyGround.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/RollingMan.mp3

http://lachinemachine.com/Hanks/MessinWithTheKid.mp3
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on December 05, 2009, 03:30:25 PM
'Sextasy' is a cool track. What about a soft, slightly "smoky" female voice for the vocals?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 05, 2009, 03:42:14 PM
Many things could work.  I would love to get a singer to experiment with it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 09, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
My bottle of Suntory Yamazaki 12 yr old single malt came in today!!!

:)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 09, 2009, 12:32:20 PM
Enjoy! ;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 09, 2009, 12:45:56 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on December 09, 2009, 12:32:20 PM
Enjoy! ;D

I'll be trying it in about 3 to 4 hours.  It is good to own your own restaurant.  A nip of whiskey in the office won't get you fired.

:drink:
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 09, 2009, 04:28:46 PM
Woo-hoo!

Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 10, 2009, 02:03:27 AM
The Yamazaki has no cereal or grain on the nose. I don't detect any on the palate either. The nose hits with floral and citrus with faint oak. Tasting brings a smoky and sweet elixir onto the palate with fruit and spices. Raisins and almost a coconut thing in the finish. Makes me wonder what is going on with the barrels. Probably using different types of wood. The lack of cereal on the palate lends to a transparency in the flavors of the whisky as if you can almost single each out on your tongue individually. Reminiscent of Glenlivet's Nadurra or Glenmorangie's Madeira finish. Definitely of a Scotch vein which moves it away from my current preferences in whisk(e)y. This is the type of Single Malt I like when I am drinking Scotch.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 10, 2009, 03:18:33 AM
Why do I keep picturing Paul Giamatti as I read these entries?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 23, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
Picked up bottles of Booker's and Ezra Brooks last week. The Booker's is a very nice traditional uncut and unfiltered Bourbon and the Ezra Brroks is good for mixing drinks.   Ordered a 10 year old Charter and an Old Whiskey River for next week. Never had either so should be interesting to taste and compare.

Growing the Irish collection this week with a Bushmills and a Jameson.  Both were in gift packs so now I have 4 new glasses for the bar.  Think I might add a Redbreast soon so as to get a Pure Pot Still Irish Whiskey.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on December 26, 2009, 06:46:22 AM
As a Christmas present for myself I've purchased a bottle of 'Highland Park' 12 years old.
I highly recommend this Whisky as it's the best Single Malt I've tasted so far.

"Nose: Smoky, "garden bonfire" sweetness, heathery, malty, hint of sherry.
Palate: Exceptionally smooth. Succulent, with smoky dryness, heathery-honey sweetness and maltiness.
Finish: Teasing, heathery, delicious.
Overall: A beautifully balanced classic islander."


"The greatest all-rounder in the world of Malt Whisky"
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 26, 2009, 11:58:48 AM
Picked up the Redbreast, I did.  Had a suggestion of Asyla and Hedonism to go with your Highland Park.  Will keep my eyes peeled for all of them.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 26, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
My latest "Current List"

Bourbon

    Bulleit
    Wild Turkey 101
    Wild Turkey Rare Breed
    Woodford Reserve
    1792
    Jim Beam
    Jim Beam Black 8 yr
    Henry McKenna BIB 10 yr Single Barrel
    Old Grand Dad BIB
    Old Grand Dad 114
    Old Forester Birthday Bourbon
    Basil Hayden 8 yr
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 1997
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 2000
    Ezra B. 12 year old
    Ezra Brooks
    Elmer T Lee
    Buffalo Trace
    Eagle Rare 10 yr
    Fighting Cock
    Elijah Craig 18 yr
    Bookers
    George T Stagg 2009 15 yr old Uncut and Unfiltered
    Woodford Reserve Masters Collection Seasoned Oak Finish
    Russell's Reserve 10 yr
    Weller Special Reserve 7 yr
    Makers Mark Red Wax
    Rebel Yell Reserve
    Jefferson's Presidential Reserve 17 yr
    Hancock Reserve
    Rock Hill Farms
    Jefferson's Reserve

    Tennessee

    Jack Daniels Single Barrel
    Gentlemen Jack
    Jack Daniels
    George Dickel #12

    Rye

    Wild Turkey 101
    Russell's Reserve 6 yr
    Thomas Handy Sazerac Rye 2009 6 yr old uncut and unfiltered

    Wheat

    Bernheim's Wheat Whiskey

    American Blended

    Seagram's 7
    Kessler

    Scotch

    Single Malt

    Glenlivet 21 yr Archive
    Glenmorangie Port 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Sherry 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Madeira 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Burgundy 12 yr
    Glendronach 12 yr
    McClellan 10 yr Sherry Finish
    Caol Ila 14 yr
    Talisker 10 yr
    Lagavulin 16 yr
    Glenfiddich 12 yr
    Glenlivet Nadurra 16 yr
    Yamazaki 12 yr

    Blended

    Chivas Regal Royal Salute 21 yr
    Chivas Regal 12
    Dewar's White
    Johnnie Walker Black

    Irish

    Redbreast 12
    Bushmills
    Jameson
    Jameson 12 yr
    Tullamore Dew

    Canadian

    Forty Creek Port Wood Reserve
    Forty Creek Double Barrel Reserve
    Forty Creek Barrel Select
    CC 8 yr w/Sherry finish
    Crown Royal

    Ordered and waiting on arrival:

    Sazerac 18 yr Rye
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 29, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
Added a Blackbush and will be shopping for something before the New Year.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: DHoffmann on December 29, 2009, 10:38:41 PM
What do high priced classic liquor and high priced classic cars have in common?




Lalique.

http://en-gb.themacallan.com/the-malt/the-portfolio.aspx#expressions/lalique/1
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 30, 2009, 04:14:43 AM
Bushmills 16, Old Forester Bourbon and Appleton Estates Rum brought into the bar yesterday. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 30, 2009, 05:15:39 AM
That Lalique must be some expensive shit.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on December 30, 2009, 06:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ultra on December 29, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
Added a Blackbush and will be shopping for something before the New Year.

Sounds not that appealing to me...  ;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on December 30, 2009, 06:25:56 AM
Quote from: Allemano on December 30, 2009, 06:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ultra on December 29, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
Added a Blackbush and will be shopping for something before the New Year.

Sounds not that appealing to me...  ;D

I appreciate the joke.  I bet you would like the Whiskey.  ;)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: DHoffmann on December 30, 2009, 11:56:32 PM
Quote from: Ultra on December 30, 2009, 05:15:39 AM
That Lalique must be some expensive shit.
The third in the series, not yet on their website it seems, is a 57 year old single malt valued at... wait for it... $15,000...
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 02, 2010, 08:20:59 AM
I pay too much for Whiskey now. Not gonna be seeing any Lalique in my bar.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Boxer2500 on January 15, 2010, 02:09:19 AM
I enjoyed some 12 year-old Glenfiddich the other night... possibly a little too much.

Scotch is just behind red wine and cheap tequila on Dan's Hangover Hierarchy.  :drink: (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/boxer2500/bong.gif) :faint: :snooze: :scratch: :shiner: (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/boxer2500/bong.gif)  :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 15, 2010, 11:49:06 AM
Scotch should always be followed with water.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 15, 2010, 09:49:53 PM
EWSB
WT 101
WT 101 rye
Blackbush
WT Rare Breed
Maybe more later.  Maybe not.  Gotta get up early.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 16, 2010, 06:04:36 PM
I want this, bad:

http://www.shoppersvineyard.com/store/pc/OLD-RIP-VAN-WINKLE-23YR-DECANTER-114-PROOF-BOURBON-WHISKEY-108p12517.htm
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 25, 2010, 03:21:05 AM
Just got a bunch of Liquor glassware, free, from the local store where I buy much of my bar's stock.  They had it in their upstairs storage room from gift packs they didn't move in a timely fashion.  I am now one of the folks who gets all of the free swag from them.   8)

Check it out!

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/c478e2e2.jpg)

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/75de615b.jpg)

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/4eb8a82a.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 25, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Bourbon tasting this Friday. Dan Speed and Boxer are supposed to be here. I have invited a few other folk I know also. Should be quite fun!

Got a new bottle to add coming in this week. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7XyWaXOYAyo/Sw-ANaYeYGI/AAAAAAAAAE4/NPtiiYWJXn8/s400/Wild+Turkey+Kentucky+Spirit.jpg) (http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/wild_turkey/whisky323.html)

Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 28, 2010, 10:31:19 AM
And may I say that the Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit is the smoothest, easiest drinking Turkey I have had yet.  I think the Rare Breed has a little fuller flavor but I think I prefer the Kentucky Spirit.  Gonna try them side by side to make the final call.

:drink:


Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: GRAYWOLF on January 29, 2010, 03:51:38 PM
I have a question for the experienced whiskey drinker...of all the different types and brands and labels, etc. which one would be the best (smoothest without inducing the typical convulsion) for a first timer?  I was told by someone who was not a whiskey drinker, but had tried many that the smoothest is Scotch, then Irish Whiskey, Canadian, Bourbon, American Whiskey. (cost is a consideration as well.)

I can provide a lot of info as to what differentiates the types, but I have not tasted but a couple.

I am a beer and vodka (not at the same time) drinker.

I may start a mixed drink recipe thread.....
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Allemano on January 29, 2010, 03:55:38 PM
my opinion: take 'Highland Park' and you won't need another!
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on January 29, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: GRAYWOLF on January 29, 2010, 03:51:38 PM
I have a question for the experienced whiskey drinker...of all the different types and brands and labels, etc. which one would be the best

There is rott-gut versions of all those types, to me, it's the intial quality of the ingredients and then the finish casking.....and time. 

Time is the most expensive of all the ingredients.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 30, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
Boxer, Dan Speed and I tried a LOT of Whiskies last night. Then we all passed out watching LeMans. By starting those two off early in the night there is hope they will be up for the rally.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 30, 2010, 12:25:05 PM
Graywolf,

One cannot merely declare one category or country of origin of whiskey to be "smoother" than others.  Whiskey is a VERY broad category and the list of spirits called whiskies is an enormous cross section of flavors, aromas and experiences.  For cocktails, blended whiskies tend to take the forefront.  A blended whiskey is one in which some amount of grain whiskey is added to the bottled product.   You really need to give more info of what you want a whiskey for and then I would be happy to make appropriate recommendations.

Canadian whiskeys are almost all blends.  I cannot think of one Canadian straight whiskey.

Scotch whiskies are known for their smoky, peaty, phenolic character.  This is due to the Barley being dried over peat moss fires.

Irish whiskeys were originally of the pot still variety though now there is only one 100% pot still whiskey coming out of Ireland today.  They are kind of like Scotches without the heavy phenolics.

American whiskeys are a broad category of blends and straight whiskeys.  The most common American straight whiskeys are Bourbon, Rye and Tennessee whiskey, which is Bourbon that has undergone the Lincoln County process.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: GRAYWOLF on January 31, 2010, 07:56:33 PM
Calling a tennessee whiskey a bourbon is like calling irish whiskey a scotch. The primary reason for the mass confusion is because JD buys the bourbon barrels from Kentucky after they have been used. Bourbon only comes from Kentucky and is fermented in first use barrels.

I know the processes and ingredients of each category affects taste as does the distiller's recipe. I just don't know enough about the tastes to know what is a good one to try. I have tried some of the usual suspects with little interest to do so again. I'd like to try one that won't make me look like Joe Cocker singing "You Are So Beautiful"...
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 31, 2010, 08:19:08 PM
Bourbon comes from outside of Kentucky as well and it is a statement of fact, not a comparison, that Tennessee whiskey is bourbon that has undergone the Lincoln County process.  The Lincoln process is what is referred to as "charcoal mellowing" on the side of a bottle of Jack.    Bourbon is the tightest regulated spirit in the world. It has to be distilled from a min of 51% corn and it has to be aged in new oak barrels for a minimum of two years. There is no law stating bourbon come from Kentucky and it has a history in the states of Pennsylvania and Virginia as well. 

No one can tell you which whiskey will wow you because everyones palate is different. If you tell me spirits you have enjoyed I can make recommendations.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: GRAYWOLF on January 31, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
Well, it's been a few months and a few bottles since I graduated from bartending school....I may be confusing the inclusion of the state on the label for calling it a "bourbon"...

There aren't many spirits I have made a habit of drinking by themselves. I stumbled on vodka lemonades about a year ago and really enjoy that. I was into vodka and Coke for a while. In those instances, however, I am looking for something that isn't going to compete with the mixer.

I pretty much don't care for wine at any level.

I've always been a beer drinker. I prefer German beers, usually, but I do like Shiner Bock or Sam Adams if I am drinking domestic. I like the smokey flavor of Kostritzer, or the standard smooth flavor of Paulaner Pils and Oktoberfest.

Typing all of that out, I realize it comes down to aftertaste. I prefer drinks that have little or no flavor after it is swallowed.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on January 31, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: GRAYWOLF on January 31, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
Typing all of that out, I realize it comes down to aftertaste. I prefer drinks that have little or no flavor after it is swallowed.

Jameson's.  Tullamore Dew.  Canadian Club.  Bernheim's Wheat Whiskey.  Weller Special Reserve Bourbon, 7 yrs.  Any of those might work for you.  Jameson's is one of the largest selling whiskies in the world.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Boxer2500 on February 01, 2010, 02:27:38 AM
I'm drinking Evan Williams single barrel right now.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 01, 2010, 02:32:02 AM
Quote from: Boxer2500 on February 01, 2010, 02:27:38 AM
I'm drinking Evan Williams single barrel right now.

Vanilla over hints of oak and smoke.   A fine Bourbon and a great deal.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 02, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
Added 8 new whiskies since my last update. 

Parker Beam's golden anniversary bourbon
Rittenhouse Rye 25yr
Elijah Craig 12yr
Sam Houston
Charter 101
Ancient Age 10 star
Old Forrester Signature bourbon
Old Fitzgerald

Here is the current list:

Bourbon

    Bulleit
    Wild Turkey 101
    Wild Turkey Rare Breed
    Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit
    Woodford Reserve
    Jim Beam
    Jim Beam Black 8 yr
    Henry McKenna BIB 10 yr Single Barrel
    Old Grand Dad BIB
    Old Grand Dad 114
    Old Forester Birthday Bourbon
    Old Forester (86 proof)
    Old Forrester Signature bourbon
    Basil Hayden 8 yr
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 1997
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 2000
    Ezra B. 12 year old
    Ezra Brooks
    Elmer T Lee
    Buffalo Trace
    Eagle Rare 10 yr
    Fighting Cock
    Elijah Craig 12 yr
    Elijah Craig 18 yr
    Bookers
    George T Stagg 2009 15 yr old Uncut and Unfiltered
    Woodford Reserve Masters Collection Seasoned Oak Finish
    Russell's Reserve 10 yr
    Weller Special Reserve 7 yr
    Makers Mark Red Wax
    Rebel Yell Reserve
    Jefferson's Presidential Reserve 17 yr
    Hancock Reserve
    Rock Hill Farms
    Jefferson's Reserve
    Parker Beam's golden anniversary bourbon
    Sam Houston
    Charter 101
    Ancient Age 10 star
    Old Fitzgerald

    Tennessee

    Jack Daniels Single Barrel
    Gentlemen Jack
    Jack Daniels
    George Dickel #12

    Rye

    Wild Turkey 101
    Russell's Reserve 6 yr
    Thomas Handy Sazerac Rye 2009 6 yr old uncut and unfiltered
    Rittenhouse Rye 25yr

    Wheat

    Bernheim's Wheat Whiskey

    American Blended

    Seagram's 7
    Kessler

    Scotch

    Single Malt

    Glenlivet 21 yr Archive
    Glenmorangie Port 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Sherry 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Madeira 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Burgundy 12 yr
    Glendronach 12 yr
    McClellan 10 yr Sherry Finish
    Caol Ila 14 yr
    Talisker 10 yr
    Lagavulin 16 yr
    Glenfiddich 12 yr
    Glenlivet Nadurra 16 yr
    Yamazaki 12 yr

    Blended

    Chivas Regal Royal Salute 21 yr
    Chivas Regal 12
    Dewar's White
    Johnnie Walker Black

    Irish

    Redbreast 12
    Bushmills
    Blackbush
    Bushmills 16
    Jameson
    Jameson 12 yr
    Tullamore Dew

    Canadian

    Forty Creek Port Wood Reserve
    Forty Creek Double Barrel Reserve
    Forty Creek Barrel Select
    CC 8 yr w/Sherry finish
    Crown Royal

    Ordered and waiting on arrival:

    Sazerac 18 yr Rye
    William Larue Weller
    Old Charter
    Old Whiskey River
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Dan Speed on February 02, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: Ultra on January 30, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
Boxer, Dan Speed and I tried a LOT of Whiskies last night. Then we all passed out watching LeMans. By starting those two off early in the night there is hope they will be up for the rally.

And damned if we didn't make it to a stunning 3 out of 21 stages. It tasted like whiskey.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Dan Speed on February 02, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
Good Whiskey.  ;D
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Boxer2500 on February 03, 2010, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Dan Speed on February 02, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: Ultra on January 30, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
Boxer, Dan Speed and I tried a LOT of Whiskies last night. Then we all passed out watching LeMans. By starting those two off early in the night there is hope they will be up for the rally.

And damned if we didn't make it to a stunning 3 out of 21 stages. It tasted like whiskey.

I can confirm that I was literally SWEATING whiskey while walking to and from the stages under a half dozen layers. What a fun weekend.

P.S. - could I get a rundown of the whiskies I tasted the other night?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 03, 2010, 06:33:39 PM
From memory

Bernheims Wheat
Forty Creek Bouble Barrel Reserve
Weller 7 yr Bourbon
Bushmills 16
Chivas Regal Royal Salute
George T Stagg
Wild Turkey Rare Breed
Jack Daniels Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel
Ezra B 12 yr Single Barrel
Old Forester Birthday Bourbon
Yamasaki 12 yr

There may have been others. I cannot recall at the moment.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 05, 2010, 02:40:44 AM
Rittenhouse Rye 25 yr.  Barrel #2.  Bottle 58

A special treat.  Nosing the whiskey brings caramel and oak with some fruit notes - dates, figs and maybe ripe pears. There is a little of the sweet spice hiding in the back - maybe nutmeg.     Tasting brings a very nice mouth feel showing the un-chill filtered aspect of the whiskey and making it pleasantly oily. There is no fire in the whiskey, but there is a nice pleasant warmth. It has the rich fruit and caramel flavor of an older rye whiskey with a bit of old leather and tobacco with just a hint of oak tannins that do give it a bit of the bitter associated with tannins, but not overwhelmingly so.  A nice long finish with sweet spice and caramel leading into a an oak wood.  One of  the finest most enjoyable whiskeys I have ever drank.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on February 07, 2010, 02:54:18 AM
http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?vendorId=FWNE.fw..wh040800.a#FWNE.fw..wh040800.a

and a segment from the above program

http://www.bourbon-central.com/whiskey-videos/whiskey-history-video/
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 12, 2010, 02:34:15 AM
This is some impressive shit.  My snifter and I are enjoying it very much right now.
=================================================

HEAVEN HILL DISTILLERIES ANNOUNCES RELEASE OF THE THIRD EDITION OF "PARKER'S HERITAGE COLLECTION" AMERICAN WHISKEY SERIES

2009 "Golden Anniversary" Bottling Celebrates Master Distiller Parker Beam's 50 Years of Craftsmanship

BARDSTOWN, KY--Heaven Hill Distilleries, Inc., the country's largest independent family-owned and operated spirits producer and marketer, announces the September release of the third edition of Parker's Heritage Collection, a limited annual series of rare, aged American Whiskeys that pays tribute to 6th Generation Master Distiller Parker Beam. The third release, the 2009 "Golden Anniversary" edition, specifically celebrates Parker's 50 years as a distiller, beginning in 1960, by marrying Bourbons from each of his five decades of craftsmanship in a rare and limited bottling.

The 2009 release of Parker's Heritage Collection comes on the heels of two of Heaven Hill's most highly acclaimed whiskeys, the barrel-proof 11-year-old 2007 edition Bourbon that was named one of Malt Advocate "Top Ten New Whiskies of 2007" and placed #21 in F. Paul Pacult's "111 Best Whiskeys, Brandies, Liqueurs and White Spirits in the World", and the 27-year-old 2008 Bourbon that won Best of Show, Brown Spirits at the most recent San Francisco World Spirits Competition and was named "North American Whiskey of the Year" by Malt Advocate. The Golden Anniversary edition will be offered nationally in a 750ml bottle, like the previous two Parker's Heritage Collection releases, and will be bottled at 100 proof with an average retail price of $150. The entire production run will only number 1500 three bottle cases, which will be allocated across the country and in select international markets and which will undoubtedly sell out as quickly as the previous editions.

Only Heaven Hill Distilleries, with the world's second largest inventory of aging Bourbon and nearly 50% of the world's supply of Bourbon barrels over 8 years old, could bring these rare and aged whiskeys to market. Parker Beam, along with his son Craig, oversees one of the world's most highly esteemed distilling operations, where renowned brands such as Elijah Craig, Old Fitzgerald, and Evan Williams, the world's second largest selling Bourbon, are produced according to Parker and Craig's seven-generation- old family recipe and yeast strain. Aged in traditional open-rick warehouses in Nelson County, the Bourbons used to make the Golden Anniversary edition were personally selected and married together by Parker, with the majority of the whiskey aged 10 to 20 years, and much lesser amounts of older whiskey.
To create the rare marriage of whiskeys, barrels from the 1970's and 80's were pulled from a variety of 3rd floor locations where temperatures are more variable. Barrels from the 1990's and 2000's were pulled from the highest floors in the rickhouse where greater temperature swings promote the aging process. These were combined with a very small amount of Bourbon from the 1960's to complete the five decade blend.

"This superlative Bourbon, a fitting tribute to an industry icon, has been 50 years in the making," commented Susan Wahl, brand manager for whiskeys at Heaven Hill. "The superior quality of the whiskey, its scarcity, and the fact that it is in recognition of a beloved figure in the American distilling industry should combine to make this a highly-sought after bottling."

Packaged in the same bottle as the 2007 and 2008 editions, the Parker's Heritage Collection Golden Anniversary bottling carries a distinctive gold and buff face label rather than the black and gold label of the previous two releases. It also features the cork closure and black and gold capsule of the prior Cask Strength and 27-Year-Old versions.

"I'm honored that Heaven Hill is recognizing my 50 years with this bottling, and I'm also excited that I was able to select and combine Bourbons of such varying ages," stated Parker Beam. "This was a fun and rewarding project and I hope everyone agrees with me that we have created a very special Bourbon, with blending unlike any other."

Future editions of Parker's Heritage Collection, to be released annually every Fall, will feature unique expressions of American Whiskey styles drawn from Heaven Hill's inventory of more than 700,000 aging barrels. Heaven Hill, as the only remaining national distiller that produces Bourbon, Rye, Corn and Wheat Whiskeys (Tennessee Whiskey being the remaining straight whiskey type, which must by law be made in Tennessee), has in its rickhouses more American Whiskey styles/types than any other producer--barrels that would typically be dumped for acclaimed brands like Evan Williams and Elijah Craig Bourbon, Rittenhouse Rye, Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey and Mellow Corn Corn Whiskey.

But Parker Beam, who oversees all aspects of whiskey production, aging and selection at Heaven Hill alongside his son Craig, much as Parker did with his father Earl, has earmarked select barrels of each of these styles to be dumped for future editions of Parker's Heritage Collection.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 12, 2010, 03:19:51 AM
I'm warm all over.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: mpatrizio on February 16, 2010, 01:21:24 AM
Didn't try the Compass Box yet, huh Ultra?
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on February 16, 2010, 08:01:37 AM
They don't sell it in Michigan. Gotta leave the state to get a bottle.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: GRAYWOLF on February 20, 2010, 08:43:42 PM
Just had a Scotch & Coke. I had one of those little (1.5 oz?) bottles of Dewar's White that I poured in with a 12oz Mexican Coke. Not too bad...A little less Scotch or a 20oz Coke would probably be a little better ratio...
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on March 02, 2010, 03:43:23 PM
That is a mixed drink.   This thread is about Whisk(e)y.

;)

Added a Laird's 7.5 year old Apple Brandy to go with The Irishman Single Malt, Rogue Dead Guy Whiskey and a bottle of (ri)1.

The Laird's is sublime and wonderful.  Can't recommend it enough.  The Rogue is more like Tequila and not to my taste.  The Irishman is a perfect example of what a non-peated Single Malt Irish Whiskey tastes like.  Delicate and smooth with hints of nuts and a slight floral character.   The (ri)1 is not complex but very nice on the palate if a little over-priced for what it is.

Also got a week or so ago a Weller Antique 107.  The first wheater bourbon I could see as a regular pour based on taste, flavor and price.  I really like it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: GRAYWOLF on March 02, 2010, 03:52:09 PM
What do you know about Dewar's White Label? Now that I've had that, I can relate a little better to your description of the flavors.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on March 03, 2010, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: GRAYWOLF on March 02, 2010, 03:52:09 PM
What do you know about Dewar's White Label? Now that I've had that, I can relate a little better to your description of the flavors.

Dewar's is a Blended Scotch.  It combines the smoke and peat of Islay single malts with the milder flavors of Highland and Speyside malts.  I haven't had a dram of Dewar's in 10 to 20 years and I don't have any current bottlings of White Label. 

Hope that helps. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on March 10, 2010, 05:28:22 PM
The Four Roses, Four Roses Single Barrel and Four Roses Small Batch came in today. I am really impressed with my initial impressions of this stuff.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on April 04, 2010, 07:39:26 PM
Quote from: Ultra on March 02, 2010, 03:43:23 PM
That is a mixed drink.   This thread is about Whisk(e)y.

Added a Laird's 7.5 year old Apple Brandy to go with The Irishman Single Malt,

The Weller has me interested.  I replaced my long-ago drained bottle of Yamazaki, I'm such a fan of that Whiskey.  So subtle and I love BIG smack-mouth whiskey, which the Yamazaki isn't.

Speaking of Apples,  I need to go hunting for some ApfelKorn.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on April 10, 2010, 03:42:25 AM
Quote from: Bezor on April 04, 2010, 07:39:26 PM
So subtle and I love BIG smack-mouth whiskey, which the Yamazaki isn't.


Baby Saz........

http://www.spiritsreview.com/reviews-rye-sazerac-6-year.htm
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on May 02, 2010, 10:47:27 PM
The only way someone could think of the Grand Traverse Distillery as a let down is if they judge a book by it's industrial park cover.

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/aac35a9e.jpg)

The folks there use the still to cook up a lot more than just the vodka that got the distillery on the map.

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/a6a1e478.jpg)

All of their whiskeys are made from White Dog that is distilled separately.  They market at the distillery the requisite 1, 2, 3, 5, and 10 liter barrels and they can sell you White Dog varieties in

Wheat,

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/0b0369ef.jpg)

Rye,

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/730cb211.jpg)

Corn,

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/26f958ec.jpg)

Malted Barley and

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/a6697779.jpg)

Peated Malted Barley:

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/280a11f7.jpg)

All in White Dog form for you to mix up your own batches of Whiskey.

Imagine, if you will, a Peated Barley Bourbon.   :skep:

Aged Whiskey

   (http://www.grandtraversedistillery.com/images/product-whiskey-2.jpg)Here  at the distillery we are excited about whiskey! Whiskey has such a  range of flavors and character that the possibilities are endless. Our  first idea is to bring back a traditional early American whiskey, rye.  Americans enjoyed rye whiskey before prohibition. Rye whiskey offers a  unique flavor that is one of a kind. Early Americans did not ask for a  shot of corn whiskey, they asked for a shot of rye. Corn liquor did not  take off until after the repeal of prohibition. America has thousands of  small distillers but the large fee placed on distilleries by the  federal government after prohibition eliminated most of them. What was  left were the "big boys" and corn cost less than rye.. Distilling corn  for whiskey offers a much more neutral spirit vs. rye. We have gone back  to the roots of American whiskey and will offer a 100% rye whiskey. We  take great care in distilling our rye whiskey, and placed it into new  American oak charred barrels. Here the whiskey reacts with the charred  barrel and the result is a unique whiskey experience.  We are looking  forward to introducing these unique whiskey sometime in 2010.
   We also have put up a bourbon style whiskey and are using rye as the  flavor component. Corn, rye and malted barley are the grains. Corn must  be the main grain to be classified bourbon. Our bourbon style whiskey  is now aging in barrels.  We are looking forward to introducing these  unique whiskey sometime in 2011.
   A 2nd straight rye whiskey is being barreled at this time. We are  using blend of 60% rye and 40% corn. It will offer a different flavor  profile than our first 100% rye whiskey. We are looking forward to  introducing these unique whiskey sometime in 2011.
   As soon as we empty our whiskey barrels we will be distilling a 100%  malted barley whiskey and offer something for those who enjoy a single  malt whiskey (scotch). A straight wheat whiskey will also be in the  works within the year. We will keep you informed on our whiskey  adventures with our newsletter  so please sign up (http://www.grandtraversedistillery.com/newsletter/index.html").


Anywho, it was great fun to visit Michigan's largest distillery and check it all out.  While I was there I asked about getting some of their new rye in a barrel proof and they said that when the next batch of barrels are gotten into they might just be releasing some. 

www.grandtraversedistillery.com (http://www.grandtraversedistillery.com")
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on May 02, 2010, 11:25:22 PM
Ole George 100% Straight Rye Whiskey is here! Come to the distillery and preview Ole George Whiskey, 93 proof and bottled straight from the barrel, no chill filtering for our whiskey.  At this time we only have 3 of the 53 gallon barrels ready so we are only available at the distillery. Next year we have a dozen 53 gallon barrels aged and at this time we will go to to the Michigan and Chicago retail markets.  We are open Thursday and Friday from noon to 5PM and on Saturday from 11AM to 4PM. Come see us and tour the distillery. Ole George is ready when you are.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Traverse-City-MI/Grand-Traverse-Distillery/208013680224?ref=ts


(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/63f7ce02.jpg)

Old George is $48.  $50.88 including the sales tax.

Old George went into the barrels Feb 2008.  Only the 3 barrels from the top of the warehouse have been opened.  The rest are still aging.

Ole George doesn't fool you into thinking it is an old whiskey.  However, one can mistake it for older than 2 years.  I have read somewhere that of all the whiskey varieties rye's can turn out well with the least amount of aging and this whiskey is a testament to that idea.  It is floral and fruity with just a slight rye spice. Kind of reminded me of Yamazaki 12.  Oak is there and then its gone but only a little char and smoke. Very well balanced.  Lot of flavor for a 93 proof whiskey.     I have won over a non whiskey drinker with it already.  She commented on the floral quality, some sweetness and how smooth it was on her palate.  She proceeded to have a couple glasses.

I would recommend it to anyone without reservation.  A good product.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on May 02, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: Ultra on May 02, 2010, 10:47:27 PM
The only way someone could think of the Grand Traverse Distillery as a let down is if they judge a book by it's industrial park cover.
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/a6697779.jpg)

Peated Malted Barley:

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/Autopuzzles/280a11f7.jpg)

www.grandtraversedistillery.com (http://www.grandtraversedistillery.com")

Very informative.  Thanks for the post!  :0
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 03, 2010, 06:07:23 AM
When I saw the title I misread it first for Whiskas (a brand of cat food) and then for Whiskers.
For someone who is living for years in Ireland, there can be only one Whiskey.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on May 05, 2010, 10:28:30 PM
interesting

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/05/dining/05white.html
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Bezor on June 14, 2010, 11:50:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/business/global/15iht-whiskey.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fdining%2Findex.jsonp
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: Ultra on June 15, 2010, 08:05:52 AM
Sweet.   Would like to try some.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
Post by: ctrucks on August 05, 2010, 10:43:17 AM
I'm from South Africa and between all liquor that we got here, the most favorite would be Brandy & Coke, Whiskey and beer. I love a really good whiskey, on the rocks, while others will prefer it with water or soda water. If I had to choose, I will go for some Johnny Walker and I don't drink JD. For me it is more of a bourbon than a whiskey. A Jameson is also good at times.