Solved - als_062 - Fiat 2800 Viberti

als15 · January 11, 2012, 01:35:46 PM

An "I don't know" puzzle.

For a point, what is it and who made it?

I only have some indications, but not so reliable...

Mudflap · January 11, 2012, 02:25:18 PM

Fiat?

als15 · January 11, 2012, 03:22:09 PM

If I read correctly what's written on the hubcaps I should say yes.
But remember that this is an "I don't know" puzzle, that means that I actually don't know (or am not sure) the answer and you will be asked to prove it.

als15 · January 11, 2012, 03:23:59 PM

Ah, and of course using Google Image Search is forbidden, as usual. In this case also because the only one source doesn't look clear or reliable... and this is the reason why I posted this picture here as a puzzle.

Mudflap · January 12, 2012, 04:09:31 PM

Is using books as a reference forbidden?

Paul Jaray · January 12, 2012, 04:30:08 PM

Quote from: Mudflap on January 12, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
Is using books as a reference forbidden?

Of course is not.
Autopuzzles is against the unfair behaviour (to use Google Image Search is equal to cheat) but the research is more than wellcome!

als15 · January 12, 2012, 04:32:08 PM

Definitely Ok: it is indeed the spirit of the game.
You should provide the right answer because you (and not Google Image) know where to search.

Also webstites are allowed if you know them.

The only rule is that you can mention your source if it is a book or a magazine, but you should not post here a link to a website, because it could unveil somebody else's puzzle answer.

Mudflap · January 12, 2012, 04:37:10 PM

Thanks.

als15 · January 12, 2012, 04:39:01 PM

But now I'm curious: have you found something?
I'm quite sure I've seen it before (probably on a book) but I can't remember where.

Mudflap · January 12, 2012, 04:53:23 PM

I have seen a diecast model which was loosely similar in a magazine before. But I have now realized that the said magazine has been cleared out... $:-\$

als15 · January 12, 2012, 05:24:58 PM

As far as I know, no die-cast model of a car like that have ever been made.
I can guess it was the Fiat 1100 ELR Van by Brumm, but I don't think it is this car...

Mudflap · January 13, 2012, 08:59:04 AM

That was it...

als15 · January 13, 2012, 09:33:14 AM

And this is the real-scale car: not the same as the first picture, sorry.

als15 · February 06, 2012, 12:52:39 PM

Time to move it up...

thorax · February 06, 2012, 05:00:05 PM

I think that this vehicle is the Fiat 2800 Furgonato by Viberti (1938-1939): the emblem on the grille is like this:

als15 · February 06, 2012, 05:05:03 PM

Fiat 2800: for sure!
Viberti? My source says another coachbuilder, but I'm quite sure it's wrong. Looking at the logo, I can agree with you.
But are you able to prove it? The picture looks scanned from some book: is anybody able to find it and make a better scan or read the caption?

However, I think it's correct to assign the point to you, but I'd like also to keep the puzzle open still for a while, moving it to Pros.

thorax · February 06, 2012, 05:52:18 PM

no idea Als: I've found this photo on the web and saved as 2800 Viberti. that's all

Bill Murray · September 19, 2012, 04:28:13 PM

Hi Guys:

I also found the same photo saved on my documents file as a Fiat 2800 body by Viberti.
Sadly, I did not add any other information. I saved it in 2008.

It seems to be a factory "beauty shot" as we call it and I would bet it came from an Italian book or enthusiast magazine.

I will look further into where I might have found the photo, but I am betting that this is what it is.

als15 · September 19, 2012, 04:49:21 PM

To be honest: I found it on the web as a 2800 by Viotti, but I'm 99,9% sure it's wrong. So I'm asking to prove it's by somebody else. I agree with you that it could be by Viberti, but it would be great to be sure.

Iluvatar · May 17, 2013, 09:51:12 AM

Maybe the background of the picture can help in some way?? ...

als15 · May 17, 2013, 09:55:23 AM

Sorry, but I can't recognize it.

Iluvatar · May 17, 2013, 09:58:47 AM

Quote from: als15 on May 17, 2013, 09:55:23 AM
Sorry, but I can't recognize it.

Me too... but... maybe if we found a picture of a car with the same background it can be a great help... and I see there is something written with giant letters on the gate... "O"..."R(??)"...

Iluvatar · May 17, 2013, 10:18:56 AM

Maybe it was not a stupid idea...

This is (or should be...) a 1938 Viberti Fiat 508L ambulanza...

als15 · May 17, 2013, 10:22:32 AM

Definitely not a bad idea!

So, 1 point for Thorax for having provided the right answer and 1 for Iluvatar to have proven it.

Iluvatar · May 17, 2013, 10:24:34 AM

And in this picture... 1938 Viberti Fiat 508L van for "Regie Poste"... the same wall and gate is on the left of the picture... a few meters from the entrance of the Viberti factory... so... Viberti Fiat 2800?

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