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ADG 77
« on: June 08, 2013, 05:47:12 AM »
Let's start this one with only a partial shot of the front of the car.

I'm looking for the person/firm who is responsible for this + the date it was made.
(I do not know the answer myself, but due to some limited information + pictures of the complete car I have, I will be able to reply on some questions) 

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2013, 05:25:53 PM »
Trowing in another detail shot, and moving up to Expert level.

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 06:02:18 PM »
The wheels make me think triumph as a base car.

Look similar to a TR6 fitment?
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 01:24:35 AM »
It's not based on a Triumph.

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 02:30:36 AM »
Alfa Romeo Giulia based ? Tail lights look like the ones from a Giulia

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 02:43:08 AM »
Alfa Romeo Giulia based

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 03:27:53 AM »
Later or before the Giulia-era?

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 03:47:13 AM »
Before.

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 04:02:37 AM »
Giulietta Sprint based??
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 06:34:36 AM »
Giulietta Sprint based it is (although it might also be a Giulia Sprint or 1300 Sprint which are basically also Giulietta's).

But now the more difficult part:
I'm looking for the person/firm who is responsible for this car conversion + the date the conversion was done.
As I already mentioned, I do not know the answer myself but I hope that one of the Autopuzzles members does know.

Although the front is IMO ugly, the rear looks rather nice and it also looks professionally executed.

On the rear, there is written 'Super Veloce'.

Herewith 2 pictures I have of this car.  Maybe the license plate might help identifying the car:
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 09:23:03 AM »
...  :-\ ...
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 01:32:13 PM »
I know I should not post here...but I'd like to suggest that probably we already had a coachbuilt car by the same author:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=22985.msg247656#msg247656
Unfortunately the name is missing there too... :-\

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2013, 02:38:20 AM »
I know I should not post here...but I'd like to suggest that probably we already had a coachbuilt car by the same author:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=22985.msg247656#msg247656
Unfortunately the name is missing there too... :-\

I'm not saying both cars were not converted by the same person/firm, but with the limited information there currently is known of both these cars, I think we can not make that conclusion based on just the design similarity of the front.

Let's move this one on to the Professional section so that everybody can legally;) post his knowledge of this car.

@ targhediferro (and other Italian license plate specialists): Can any more information be distilled from the license plate (VE 193962)?
I don't come any further than Venice (Venezia) period 1927-1976.   

I would not be surprised if the car was converted in the 'VE' region, but perhaps the period can be narrowed down to a certain year (somewhere between 1954-1965) so that the base car can be better defined.

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 05:40:26 PM »
the plate VE 193962 is dated from 1969 to 1970
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 07:09:35 PM »
The front end is similar to the Austin-Healey 100 Coup by De Mola : http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=30969.msg370321#msg370321

I have no proof, but somebody else may help ?

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2018, 12:15:40 PM »
Heavily inspired by this Pininfarina Ferrari 330GT 2+2 we had here before...:

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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2020, 08:38:36 AM »
Something very strange....I've recently pictured this Giulietta Sprint that carries the plate number VE 193962.  I think it would be quite strange if the mystery car would have been coachbuilt-back to its original shape, but it's possible...I'd rather say that either that plate didn't belong to mystery car or the mystery car has gone lost and someone got its plate and documents to reborn another car with no papers, even if I hope it's not.  This doesn't help to know the coachbuilder.
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Re: ADG 77
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2020, 06:34:06 PM »
Something very strange....I've recently pictured this Giulietta Sprint that carries the plate number VE 193962.  I think it would be quite strange if the mystery car would have been coachbuilt-back to its original shape, but it's possible...I'd rather say that either that plate didn't belong to mystery car or the mystery car has gone lost and someone got its plate and documents to reborn another car with no papers, even if I hope it's not.  This doesn't help to know the coachbuilder.
Based on the what little I can see, the car in your image may be a Sprint Veloce 'Alleggerita'. I don't know how the current market has been treating these rare lightweight cars, but excellent examples were trading for upwards of ~$350k-$400k not so long ago. At those values, returning a molested car to its original configuration tends to make financial sense. If the puzzle car was indeed one of the 200 or so Alleggeritas, I would not be surprised to learn that either: 1) the altered body panels were scrapped in favor or original-looking panels, or 2) the identity of the puzzle car was appropriated in order to lend credence to an Alleggerita clone. Call me naive, but I feel the former scenario is actually more likely than the latter.