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Title: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: grobmotorix on December 06, 2014, 10:40:42 AM
Who knows this car, and the guy standing in front of it?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 09, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
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Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Majeko on December 21, 2014, 02:08:35 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 21, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
Indeed...
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Majeko on December 28, 2014, 02:46:13 PM
Alfa Romeo?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on December 29, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
Not Alfa...
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 03:30:55 AM
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Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2015, 06:09:20 AM
Fiat?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
Alfa
Fiat
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2015, 07:21:53 AM
Is it electric, like an Auto-Lux conversion?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: targhediferro on January 04, 2015, 07:37:24 AM
Siata?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 09:01:06 AM
Alfa
Autolux
Fiat
Siata

electric


I don´t know if it might help, but this photo was made in 1942.
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Hiawatha on January 04, 2015, 09:17:40 AM
Lancia?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 09:54:23 AM
Alfa
Autolux
Fiat
Lancia
Siata

electric
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
Innocenti?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 12:25:02 PM
Alfa
Autolux
Fiat
Innocenti
Lancia
Siata

electric
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2015, 12:34:15 PM
It's too small for a Bianchi, and the disc wheels don't look very Maserati. Is this a one-off or very limited production?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 12:35:41 PM
You named the correct make in your last post...  ;D
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2015, 01:25:29 PM
Maserati, then?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05)
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 01:47:23 PM
LOCKED for you!
Title: Re: LOCKED for Paul Jaray / grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2015, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 01:47:23 PM
LOCKED for you!
No, thank you, I just used Nicanary's guess.
Open to all, please.  ;)
I was looking at that small badge and could'nt find a match...the front reminds me of a V4, but that's all.

(and BTW, I don't have a clue!)
Title: Re: LOCKED for Paul Jaray / grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2015, 02:30:15 PM
Well I'm no nearer finding the answer, either!

It must be a pre-war car, so I think it could be a re-bodied Type 26M. But I still don't know who the driver is.

PS he looks a little bit like Ernesto Maserati, but only a little bit!
Title: Re: LOCKED for Paul Jaray / grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
It is none of both you two suggested.

Open for all, thank you.
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2015, 02:40:14 PM
4CM ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
4 CS?
Title: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
No and no, sorry...
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 04, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
I doubt this, but is it a 6CM converted to a road car?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 04, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
Not a 6CM also, sorry...
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: targhediferro on January 04, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
I can't believe it's a 8c with those wheels, so is it a road version of the 4CL?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 05, 2015, 12:59:46 AM
No.
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: oko94 on January 05, 2015, 01:10:31 AM
8CM ?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 05, 2015, 02:03:49 AM
No.
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: 4popoid on January 05, 2015, 02:13:53 AM
Is the man Omar Orsi?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2015, 05:59:09 AM
Is the car a prototype of a model which never went into production?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: Wendax on January 05, 2015, 07:35:41 AM
There was a first A6 1500 prototype built in 1942. Is it that one?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2015, 08:11:52 AM
It's Ernesto Maserati (with a very young Alfieri) with the sports car he built in 1942  using a single-cam 6CM engine. I suppose you could call it a prototype of the A6, although that car wasn't finalised until 1946/47.

(PS I've just found a photo of the mule A6 which was first on the road in 1945. It's nothing like this car.)
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 05, 2015, 11:04:38 AM
QuoteThere was a first A6 1500 prototype built in 1942. Is it that one?

That´s what´I wanted to know...

Well, the second part of the answer after Wendax´post would have been Alfieri.

Now - what to do?

I think I give both of you a point... ;)

Any complains?
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2015, 11:33:39 AM
Thank you. I usually check Google Images first, but it wasn't there when I used several different key words.  I eventually just asked Google for info on 1942 Maserati prototype and it was the first entry! A very interesting site.I'm surprised that Ernesto could find the materials to built this car at that time in history, but Italians love their racing!
Title: Re: grob 2014.12.06 (05) / 1942 Maserati
Post by: grobmotorix on January 05, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
QuoteI'm surprised that Ernesto could find the materials to built this car at that time in history, but Italians love their racing!

Agreed...
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: Wendax on January 05, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Thanks for the point!
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2015, 07:00:53 PM
Sorry to be pedantic, but the builder of the car was Ernesto Maserati according to my source, pictured with his wife and son Alfieri.

I would also like to apologise to Wendax for appearing to use his guess to gain an advantage - I only noticed his post after I had found the puzzle source. A bit embarrassing. I have not shown a photo of the actual prototype of the A6 because we've not had that car as a puzzle, and I can use it at a later date!
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: Wendax on January 06, 2015, 02:25:38 AM
No need to feel sorry, nicanary. It was just an educated guess. I wanted to be clever and searched for "Maserati 1942 prototipo" and found a site where the car was mentioned, but not pictured.  :)
Title: SAC#1605 :
Post by: SACO on November 04, 2021, 05:25:35 PM
Please , make , model and coachbuilder of this car , for 1 point !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: SACO on November 15, 2021, 02:40:06 AM
Experts !
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: D-type on November 16, 2021, 09:34:47 AM
Delahaye?
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: SACO on November 16, 2021, 09:48:14 AM
Not Delahaye !
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: D-type on November 17, 2021, 06:47:32 PM
But French?
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: SACO on November 18, 2021, 02:39:36 AM
Not French !
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: FrontMan on November 19, 2021, 09:27:11 AM
Maserati V4 ?
Title: Re: SAC#1605
Post by: SACO on November 20, 2021, 02:04:20 AM
Yes ! Maserati but not V4 !
Locked for you !
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: FrontMan on November 20, 2021, 05:43:52 AM
V5 ?
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: SACO on November 20, 2021, 02:02:03 PM
V5 !
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: FrontMan on November 20, 2021, 05:14:21 PM
I'm puzzled by the puzzle! Having looked at a few relevant images, the starting handle on V4 and V5 cars are offset to the left of the centreline, unlike the puzzle. Unless your source is 24 carat, my "real" guess is that the puzzle car did not have the V16 engine. As for the coachbuilder,....Brianza?
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: SACO on November 23, 2021, 05:26:57 AM
No ! sorry for my mistake !
It's not  V5 ! :D
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: FrontMan on November 23, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
....please unlock ;D
Title: Re: SAC#1605 : Locked
Post by: richard fridd on November 23, 2021, 02:07:32 PM
.
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: ducamax66 on November 24, 2021, 12:58:22 PM
Maserati A6 1500 gt 1946. It is chassis # 052 with bodywork by Zagato and used to fine-tune the engine, chassis (Gilco) and suspension. Later it was rebuilt again by Zagato in the Panoramica model.
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: FrontMan on November 24, 2021, 03:04:11 PM
Gentlemen, and to whom it may concern. My understanding of the rules is that a request for unlock does not constitute unlock until confirmed by the puzzle host. My view is that consideration might be given to a simplification whereby a request for unlock is granted automatically.

I am not a great fan of locking in the first instance, as it can often merely delay a rapid solution which several others are ready to offer.  As indicated at an earlier time, I prefer answers to points.  The absence of locks would make "Autopuzzles" much more of a team effort, speed things up, and still allow points to be awarded at the discretion of he who posts the puzzle. :popcorn:
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: ducamax66 on November 24, 2021, 03:38:48 PM
Oooops, I'm wrong again .... I'm a little careless, forgive me everyone, I won't do it again, I'll pay more attention! Sorry sorry sorry
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: ducamax66 on November 24, 2021, 03:51:00 PM
Frontman, I'm sorry, it's already the second time that I "steal" the answer, it was not my intention. Using the smartphone and not the pc, sometimes I don't pay attention to whether the posts are blocked or not, also because the writings are very small and my eyesight is getting old with me (56 years old). I ask again not to get the point (if I gave the right answer).
Max
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: D-type on November 24, 2021, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on November 24, 2021, 03:04:11 PM
Gentlemen, and to whom it may concern. My understanding of the rules is that a request for unlock does not constitute unlock until confirmed by the puzzle host. My view is that consideration might be given to a simplification whereby a request for unlock is granted automatically.

I am not a great fan of locking in the first instance, as it can often merely delay a rapid solution which several others are ready to offer.  As indicated at an earlier time, I prefer answers to points.  The absence of locks would make "Autopuzzles" much more of a team effort, speed things up, and still allow points to be awarded at the discretion of he who posts the puzzle. :popcorn:
Are the "rules" about locking/unlocking anywhere on the site? 
Or the rules about permissible picture alterations for that matter?
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2021, 01:25:45 AM
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/expert-autopuzzles/updated!-puzzles-rulebook-please-read-before-posting-in-this-puzzles-a-6372/
Title: Re: SAC#1605 :
Post by: SACO on November 25, 2021, 03:09:52 AM
Sorry I didn't validate with unlocked ,
As this puzzle is a repost , I think it can be abandoned  !
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/maserati-a6-1500-prototype-1942-photo-with-alfieri-jun-sen-at-the-car/msg350643/#msg350643
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
Merged
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: oko94 on November 25, 2021, 04:42:49 AM
Are these cars the same chassis with different bodies, or rather two different A6 prototypes ?
Title: Re: Maserati A6 1500 prototype, 1942, photo with Alfieri jun. + sen. at the car
Post by: SACO on November 25, 2021, 08:25:04 AM
It's the same car ;
#052 chassis :