Rookie Racer #304 - Gary Morgan in the Morgan-Abarth

Started by Otto Puzzell, September 02, 2012, 03:49:29 AM

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fromwien


nicanary

Is this car from a known manufacturer or is it a one-off homebuilt ?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

SACO


SACO

 it is a one-off homebuilt !

fromwien

Thorgeirson H-Mod Special 1963?

SACO

I just know the chassis and the engine !

SACO


oko94

Morgan-Abarth 1960

SACO

 :thumbsup:
Morgan-Abarth 1960
1 point for oko94 !  :)

oko94

Thanks for my first point in 2 months  :o

fromwien

Very interesting puzzle. Congratulations to the puzzle-setter and -solver! Are there more technical details available about this car? As far as if competed in the 750ccm-H-Mod-class, its engine must be based on the Fiat-600-block (Fiat tipo 100D), like the 750 GT Zagatos, etc. (derivazione Abarth 750..)

D-type

Were the "H" and the maker's name erased from the original post?
If so, I think it is only fair to do so in a way that shows something has been erased. eg a black blob. 
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

Carnut

Why?
Would a black blob help anyone to solve the puzzle?
I like erasing things so you can't see anything was ever there and you'll see that on lots of the puzzles I (used to) set!
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D-type

#89
To illustrate what I'm trying to say with a hypothetical example: Some cars always had a badge or script in a particular place where similar models did not.  This could be the identifier differentiating the two.  Deleting the badge neatly so it looks as if the badge was never there can be deceptive.  Or, some cars have a logo in the wheel centres.  Erasing them is fine, but not if it's done so neatly that it looks as if the car had blank wheel centres -that is deceptive.
In this case the "H" shows the photo was taken at an SCCA event while the absence of it suggests a European or other non-SCCA  event - and this is an American car that never raced without the "H"! 
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

fromwien

Correct or incorrect, in your opinion?
(Not too much left, to get an impression of the shape of the car..)

Carnut

Well, I really don't think we should be leaving deliberate clues in the picture Duncan.
It's better to hide everything that might identify the car more easily - provided of course it's done within the rules!
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nicanary

Quote from: Carnut on September 13, 2021, 05:18:10 AM
Well, I really don't think we should be leaving deliberate clues in the picture Duncan.
It's better to hide everything that might identify the car more easily - provided of course it's done within the rules!

I agree. As it is, the race number of the car was left in view and this alone would enable a puzzler to check race results of the time - SCCA usually allocated a number to last for the entire season, rather like modern F1. It didn't help me !  ;D
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

D-type

Quote from: fromwien on September 13, 2021, 02:14:59 AM
Correct or incorrect, in your opinion?
(Not too much left, to get an impression of the shape of the car..)
Overkill.
Removing the "H", which says it's an SCCA number, is equivalent to adding a false number.
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

fromwien

Quote from: fromwien on August 13, 2021, 02:47:39 AM
Competing in the H-Mod SCCA-series?
The "H" was for sure not very important to solve this puzzle: I asked 13/08/21, if the car competed in the H-Mod SCCA-series, and it still took about one more month to solve the puzzle..


Carnut

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