This shouldn't be difficult either.
To gain a point identify the make, model and year.
Moving up
French?
It's a 'break' proposal of the Rosengart Super 5, presented by the Société industrielle de l'Ouest Parisien (SIOP), exibited at the Salon de Paris in 1949.
Quote from: spider murphy on August 02, 2012, 03:35:20 PM
It's a 'break' proposal of the Rosengart Super 5, presented by the Société industrielle de l'Ouest Parisien (SIOP), exibited at the Salon de Paris in 1949.
Yes that's the car!
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.
Anyway another point for you.
Quote from: woodinsight on August 02, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.
Vivor was the name of the production model that finally evolved out of these prototypes, but at this stage it wasn't a Vivor yet.
Quote from: Wendax on August 02, 2012, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on August 02, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.
Vivor was the name of the production model that finally evolved out of these prototypes, but at this stage it wasn't a Vivor yet.
Thanks Wendax, I'll modify the title
My source claims it to be a one-off 1949 Rosengart LR-4 N2 station wagon:
The Super 5 was the type LR 4 N2, so both names are correct. This wagon was a one-off shown at the 1949 Paris salon, finally emerging into the Break Vivor.
Thank you!
Please , what is this car and from when !
Europe?
Yes !
Central Europe?
Not Central Europe !
West Europe?
Yes ! West Europe
France?
Yes !
Renault 300 kg
Not a Renault !
Experts !
Ford France?
Simca ?
Salmson?
Not Ford France !
Not Simca !
Not Salmson !
1951-53 Rosengart LR4 Vivor?
Rosengart Fouronette 400, 1950.
Yes ! Rosengart LR4 , but not Vivor or 400 !
Quote from: SACO on April 08, 2021, 10:48:45 AM
Yes ! Rosengart LR4 , but not Vivor or 400 !
1948 LR4 Break, predecessor of production Vivor?
Is there any coachbuilder involved?
Yes ! 1 point for BattlePorQ ! :)
Rosengart LR4 RI break woody , without doubt in 1948 ( look 2 Ferrari Touring )
According to René Bellu's books it was presented at the 1949 Paris Salon.
Quote from: Wendax on April 09, 2021, 04:24:00 AM
According to René Bellu's books it was presented at the 1949 Paris Salon.
Exactly
this one?
Yes
Thank You.
That's a reason for me to search Amazon for René Bellu.
Ok ! :)
Quote from: BattlePorQ on April 09, 2021, 05:43:09 AM
Thank You.
That's a reason for me to search Amazon for René Bellu.
I took it from this book: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/automotive-book-reviews/les-voitures-des-annees-50/
His booklets covering one Paris Salon each from 1933 to 1982 (and additionally the salons 1919 to 1932 in those covering 1969 to 1982 respectively) published as special editions of the Automobilia magazine are even more exhaustive, but quite expensive buying 44 magazines at 10-20 € each.
That's not too expensive.
Too expensive is delivery to Russia.
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