What is this? Who made the car, who the engine and who the body? All for only 1 point... ;)
Up.
Up again.
Italian?
Yes.
Was the engine sourced from an Italian car manufacturer ?
No, the engine is not Italian.
French engine ?
No, not French.
German engine ?
Not German either.
British engine ?
Yes, British engine!
MG engine ?
Not MG.
Is the engine from a car manufacturer that became part of BLMC ?
Austin Seven engine?
Not Austin.
And not any BLMC-related brand.
Engine from a Rootes group manufacturer ?
No, no Rootes either. Think different ;).
JAP ?
JAP! That's the engine! But that's just a bit of the answer...
Was the body made by a known coachbuilder ?
Not very famous, but known.
Was the coachbuilder located North of Rome ?
Yes. As 99% of the Italian coachbuilders. ;D
If this coachbuilder had belonged to the 1% it would have been a great help !
Was this coachbuilder located West of Milano ?
No, East of Milan.
North of Bologna ?
North. But not too much ;).
Was this coachbuilder located within 30 km of Modena ?
From Ferrara, like Andreoli?
Not Ferrara. Go south-west. You can't miss that city ;).
Quote from: oko94 on August 13, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
Was this coachbuilder located within 30 km of Modena ?
Much much less than 30 Km.
Hmmm...I think I know the city now.
Did this coachbuilder dress any Fiat (not busses or commercial vehicles)?
Yes, some. As 99% of the Italian coachbulders. ;)
Quote from: als15 on August 16, 2016, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: oko94 on August 13, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
Was this coachbuilder located within 30 km of Modena ?
Much much less than 30 Km.
So is it located in Modena itself ?
Yes. Located in Modena.
Orlandi ?
:doh:
I was looking for Coachbuilders from Sant'Agata Bolognese!
Allegretti?
From Modena.
Not Orlandi and not Allegretti.
Torricelli?
Not Ansaloni nor Torricelli.
Torricelli?
I edited my reply too quickly...
Campana?
:applause:
Yes, an early body by Campana. But which car is it?
Locked for Paul Jaray.
Waiting for a good encyclopedia about the subject (...), I can only have a look at the few sources I have about.
In a long article about Carrozzeria Campana from 'Auto d'Epoca', there are the same info that can be found from your Fuoriserie's books...it seems that the first cars were a Fiat-powered Sport for Sighinolfi and a couple of sports with a Giannini and a BMW engine.
Chassis was built by a mr. Giovanardi. A couple of articles from Ruoteclassiche don't add much. Onorio and Erasmo Campana started in '47 after a long period working for Bacchelli & Bertolini.
Puzzle car seems to be pre-47, was it built for them?
You are right. The car is indeed pre-war and was made by Onorio Campana but when he was working at Bacchelli & Bertolini.
Still locked for the name of the car (actually, the name of the maker of the car, as I don't think it has a model denomination itslef).
Is it a name known for etceterinis or other cars in general?
Not very known at all, I'd say.
I have a short list of Jap-powered Italian cars from that era, like Nardi's Chichibio or Garanzini.
If the answer is somewhere to be found, I'll do my homework...in case it's not, you can unlock and we can all play the guessing game. ;)
There is at least a book that mentions this car. It's obscure, but for sure not an impossible task for you.
I'll keep it locked still for a while.
Is the name we are looking for known (not very known at all actually) for 'production' cars, racing cars or special cars for himself?
No, AFAIK. Just a man who paid for the construction of this one-off. I don't know if he had other special cars.
I don't think I have that particular book, then.
You can unlock.
Is he a known person?
No, he is not famous (and the book, BTW tells just the surname).
I could add that, considering the region and the surname, he could probably be a relative of my grandmother, but it's definitely not a clue (neither she ever told me of an uncle making a sportscar).
So, unlocked.
Is this book about Italian cars?
Yes.
Guido Pianigiani?
Not him.
Yes...I found a pic of it and it's quite different...is this book a recent one, by Giunti?
Rather recent (less than 10 years) but from a small publisher. The author, however, is well-known.
The funny thing is that I'd say you sent me some scans of it... :lmao:
There is only one place where to look then. Was he from Sicily?
No, we already said Modena.
Pellin?
No.
I'm starting to think I'm not looking at the right book.
Is the publisher 'Legenda'?
Self-published, I'd say (no publisher name on the cover). Not Legenda. But a well-known Italian motoring book author.
And the title is rather obvious (re-read this thread ;)).
A book about Italian cars.
Rather recent (less than 10 years).
from a small publisher (Self-published).
no publisher name on the cover.
A well-known Italian motoring book author.
I sent you some scans of it.
Title is rather obvious.
The clue about your grandmother is totally obscure, unless you are suggesting it's a name coming from Sardinia, like yours.
I sent you some scans, but mostly magazines and the books I thought (Curami's and Rastrelli's) do not fit your clues (Giorgio Nada and Legenda).
Reading this thread I can think of 'Il menù dei Motori', because they are all about Modena (il Pianeta Modena), but I just have few extracts of those publications...and I don't think I ever sent you scans of your books... :-\
My grandmother was from Reggio Emilia (and her family owned a farm estate somewhere in the countryside more or less where this car was built), but I believe you have no chance to find her mother's name. Unless you solve this puzzle.
"Menu dei Motori" is indeed in the right direction. If I'm not wrong, the author of this book is also a contributor. And, again, a very well-known local author. If we were speaking in Italian, all would have been much easier, as I'd wrote "autrice" ;).
I'm pretty sure I've never sent you scans of Nunzia's book....
Ok, but now have you understood which book is it? She wrote many, but one is specifically about...
I know the answer now...page 98.
So, feel free to answer: you deserve the point (at least for having read my book up to page 98 ;)).
According to the new Encyclopedia of Italian Coachbuildes, it was built by Bacchelli e Bertolini from Modena.
Sure! But which car is it?
Circa 1939 JAP-powered special designed and built for Captain Bergonzi by Onorio Campana, Carrozzeria Bachelli e Bertolini of Modena
I have just read through this thread and noticed that it was locked for Paul Jaray back in August, 2016 and never officially unlocked. My apologies to Paul Jaray and als15 if I have erred in assuming a thread this old was open to all.
Quote from: gte4289 on December 26, 2019, 09:22:34 PM
Circa 1939 JAP-powered special designed and built for Captain Bergonzi by Onorio Campana, Carrozzeria Bachelli e Bertolini of Modena
:bump:
After 3 years I would assume that it's unlocked and PJ will not disagree if I give you the first point of the new year.
Quote from: als15 on January 03, 2020, 04:15:21 AM
After 3 years I would assume that it's unlocked and PJ will not disagree if I give you the first point of the new year.
Thank you!