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Title: SOLVED: Djetset #442 - Kiwiwagon, by the New Zealand Department of Scientific & Industrial Research
Post by: Djetset on November 25, 2010, 02:45:15 PM
I'm going away for a couple of days, so I thought I would post this one straight to the Pros to give you all some time to think about it before I come back!

Sorry for the dreadful photo, but this is the only one I can find of this unusual car.  So, any ideas for a point? (naturally this puzzle is open to everyone).
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
I can't believe this one has had almost 100 views but not one guess.
Let's start the ball rolling - is it European?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 12:18:56 PM
Ah Woodinsight, you almost deserve a point for bringing this one to life, as it has sat here since last November without a single comment or question.  In fact, I was recently considering moving it into the Black Hole, making it possibly the first puzzle ever to receive this fate without a single remark.

Anyway, to start the ball rolling; no, it is not European.  :)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 20, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Let me follow! Post WWII?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 12:51:59 PM
Yes, it is post-WWII.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2011, 12:54:05 PM
it certainly has a European look about it.
Perhaps from Australia then?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 12:55:34 PM
Not Australian.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Hmmm
From North America?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 01:16:21 PM
No to North America.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: hugo90 on June 20, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Maybe India?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
Not India.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 20, 2011, 07:00:28 PM
South America?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: hugo90 on June 20, 2011, 09:14:44 PM
With RHD about all that's left is South Africa?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 21, 2011, 04:04:43 AM
Not South American and not South African.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 21, 2011, 05:34:06 AM
From Far East - Singapore/Malaysia area?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 21, 2011, 08:40:16 AM
Not from there.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 21, 2011, 08:45:44 AM
Quote from: Djetset on June 20, 2011, 12:55:34 PM
Not Australian.

How about their neighbor, New Zealand?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on June 21, 2011, 08:49:45 AM
Yes! Now we should get somewhere.  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on June 21, 2011, 09:14:50 AM
Logan built in Christchurch in the 1940s?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: barrett on June 22, 2011, 08:32:40 PM
 :o

I've just twigged that somewhere I actually have this image..... if only I could remember where! (is the car next to it a Lloyd 350 by any chance?)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on July 20, 2011, 11:24:08 AM
Well spotted, as the car next to the mystery car is indeed a Lloyd, a British-built Wasp.  Any idea what the star car is though?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on September 29, 2011, 10:58:21 AM
My last pending Black Hole entry for the day, so be quick!
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on October 05, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
Off into the Black Hole.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on October 05, 2011, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on June 21, 2011, 09:14:50 AM
Logan built in Christchurch in the 1940s?
Not a Logan then?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on October 05, 2011, 02:38:28 PM
Sorry Woodinsight, not a Logan.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: kwgibbs on December 07, 2012, 10:12:14 PM
could this be the edith microcar ?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: woodinsight on December 08, 2012, 02:27:20 AM
Is the puzzle car based on a Lloyd?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2013, 04:56:54 AM
Bump and a question, is this by any chance the Lappionia?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: pnegyesi on January 17, 2013, 11:58:39 AM
bump again
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 17, 2013, 03:33:38 PM
The answer to this one was lost on my old laptop hard drive, so please be patient.  I don't recall it as an Edith or Lappionia, and I have a vague recollection that it is not Lloyd-based, only parked next to one.  It will take me a while to find my original information source, so please bare with me.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 18, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
Now found some of my old information and can confirm that it has no Lloyd connection, and that it is not an Edith nor a Lappionia either.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 24, 2017, 06:42:10 PM
As this puzzle was first posted seven years ago with no activity for the last four years, as a 'special offer' from now until the end of January 2017 I will offer double BH points (i.e. four!) to anyone who can correctly identify this car.  :)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: oko94 on January 25, 2017, 05:26:25 AM
Solving a 7-year old mystery in less than a week should be next to impossible  :o

Anyway, was this car built before 1970 ?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 25, 2017, 05:35:15 AM
Nothing is impossible, as I had to get this photo from somewhere! 

The fact it was made in New Zealand is a strong clue as well, but I'm happy to withdraw the offer of four points to help try and get this long-term puzzled solved if you prefer... ???
Yes, it was built before 1970. ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: oko94 on January 25, 2017, 06:00:06 AM
Let's keep the offer going, thank you  ;D

Was the car built before 1960 ?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 25, 2017, 07:16:57 AM
No, built after 1960.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: oko94 on January 25, 2017, 07:39:38 AM
Did you find the picture in a Constructors Car Club publication ?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 25, 2017, 07:43:40 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 25, 2017, 07:39:38 AM
Did you find the picture in a Constructors Car Club publication ?
No, I found it in a mainstream car magazine.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 27, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
As time is running out for my Four Points offer until the end of January, a clue to help...

This New Zealand-built puzzle car only had three wheels...  Good luck.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: pnegyesi on September 06, 2018, 04:43:06 AM
coming back to this puzzle for a minute. Was this designed in the UK?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on September 12, 2018, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on September 06, 2018, 04:43:06 AM
coming back to this puzzle for a minute. Was this designed in the UK?
To the best of my (limited) knowledge, this car was not designed in the UK, although it did use some British components.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on December 24, 2019, 01:00:20 AM
Quote from: Djetset on January 27, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
This New Zealand-built puzzle car only had three wheels...  Good luck.
Tadpole/reverse-trike configuration?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on December 28, 2019, 05:32:25 AM
Yes, I believe so.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on January 30, 2020, 01:02:18 AM
Based on a Mini Moke?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 30, 2020, 05:22:21 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 30, 2020, 01:02:18 AM
Based on a Mini Moke?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on January 30, 2020, 11:25:38 AM
Mini-based?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on January 30, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 30, 2020, 11:25:38 AM
Mini-based?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 02, 2020, 03:14:20 AM
Reliant-based?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 02, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 02, 2020, 03:14:20 AM
Reliant-based?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 15, 2020, 09:47:13 PM
Was it based on an existing three-wheeler?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2020, 01:22:01 AM
Morgan based?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 16, 2020, 04:03:13 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 15, 2020, 09:47:13 PM
Was it based on an existing three-wheeler?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 16, 2020, 04:03:44 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2020, 01:22:01 AM
Morgan based?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 04:35:18 PM
Was this a one-off by an individual?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 04:35:18 PM
Was this a one-off by an individual?
I believe it was a one-off, but not by an individual.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 04:35:18 PM
Was this a one-off by an individual?
I believe it was a one-off, but not by an individual.
Was the manufacturer known for other vehicles?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 04:35:18 PM
Was this a one-off by an individual?
I believe it was a one-off, but not by an individual.
Was the manufacturer known for other vehicles?
I'm not aware of any other vehicles by this organisation.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
I'm not aware of any other vehicles by this organisation.
Was it built by a company, or by some other entity such as a school/university?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 18, 2020, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
I'm not aware of any other vehicles by this organisation.
Was it built by a company, or by some other entity such as a school/university?
The organisation behind this car didn't really qualify as any of the above  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 18, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2020, 04:55:02 PM
I believe it was a one-off, but not by an individual.
Quote from: Djetset on February 18, 2020, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on February 17, 2020, 06:42:14 PM
Was it built by a company, or by some other entity such as a school/university?
The organisation behind this car didn't really qualify as any of the above  ;)

Individual
Company
School/University

By a government entity?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 19, 2020, 03:00:25 AM
Yes, as I understand it.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: gte4289 on February 19, 2020, 03:09:36 AM
New Zealand Post?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 19, 2020, 03:23:17 AM
No, not the postal service.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Oguerrerob on February 21, 2020, 10:36:23 AM
From Christchurch?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 24, 2020, 04:51:04 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 21, 2020, 10:36:23 AM
From Christchurch?
Sorry but no location information was given, beyond New Zealand.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Oguerrerob on February 24, 2020, 05:19:57 AM
Is this photo from a museum?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on February 24, 2020, 05:28:18 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on February 24, 2020, 05:19:57 AM
Is this photo from a museum?
I don't know, but I found this photo in a magazine some years ago.
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: barrett on April 01, 2020, 09:35:45 AM
Okay. this is the Kiwiwagon, developed by the New Zealand government's Department of Scientific and Industrial Research. It has a Ford 100e engine and gearbox, which drives the single rear wheel by chain. It still existed in the 1990s, when this photo was taken. I wonder where it is now?
Title: Re: Djetset #442
Post by: Djetset on April 02, 2020, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: barrett on April 01, 2020, 09:35:45 AM
Okay. this is the Kiwiwagon, developed by the New Zealand government's Department of Scientific and Industrial Research. It has a Ford 100e engine and gearbox, which drives the single rear wheel by chain. It still existed in the 1990s, when this photo was taken. I wonder where it is now?
Welcome back Barrett, and what a return!  After ten years I am very happy to see that this one has finally been resolved with a very complete answer (I can tell what you've been reading  ;)). Very well done, and two BH points to you  :applause:
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #442 - Kiwiwagon, by the New Zealand Department of Scientific & Industrial Resea
Post by: barrett on April 02, 2020, 01:20:08 PM
I knew I had the magazine somewhere, it just took 10 years for me to pick it up again!