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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2020 => Topic started by: grobmotorix on June 21, 2012, 03:05:18 PM

Title: DKW Pininfarina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 21, 2012, 03:05:18 PM
Who knows this car?

1 point for the technical basis and the driver/builder
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 23, 2012, 04:47:22 AM
Too hard for the rookies...
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: richard cuyler on June 24, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
SAAB basis?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 24, 2012, 06:25:42 PM
Not Saab, not swedish at all...
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: D-type on June 25, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Fiat based ?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 26, 2012, 02:39:45 AM
No, but there is a significant technical parallel to a swedish car.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: shamrock on June 26, 2012, 03:27:57 AM
DKW based front wing and window lines very similar , 3 cylinder would be the common link , no idea as to name of car.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 26, 2012, 03:41:21 AM
LOCKED for you!

You have a very good eye - it is indeed a DKW special.
But I need some additional information about the driver/builder to award you a point
Title: Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: shamrock on June 26, 2012, 06:36:53 AM
many thanks for the complement , dont know the car
Title: Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on June 27, 2012, 02:20:56 AM
O.K.

Open for all again.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 06:52:32 AM
Last chance with a more typical view for you all experts.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 13, 2012, 06:54:30 AM
...??
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Allemano on July 13, 2012, 06:56:11 AM
removed it, I'm too hot-tempered today... ;D
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: qwaszx on July 14, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
v-e-r-y nice car. no clues..
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: D-type on August 05, 2012, 06:11:46 PM
Is it described as Auto Union as opposed to DKW based?
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 06, 2012, 01:03:58 PM
It´s been registered as a DKW in that race.
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 15, 2012, 02:00:19 PM
Up!
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Wendax on August 15, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
DKW M49 Sportcoupé, a works one-off, reputedly an offspring of the DKW contacts to Pininfarina
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Allemano on August 15, 2012, 02:03:37 PM
again too late. The canibal was there before...   :disbelief:
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Carnut on August 15, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Allemano on August 15, 2012, 02:03:37 PM
again too late. The canibal was there before...   :disbelief:

3 min 18 sec after it moved up is just tooo slow..!!
Title: Re: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 15, 2012, 02:15:17 PM
Well, I can´t find any photo of a "M49 Sportcoupé" in the internet. Maybe you can prove your guess?

I only have a driver´s name at an austrian racing event and the engines capacity.

So I´ll lock it for you and wait, Wendax.
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Wendax on August 15, 2012, 02:33:37 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 15, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
Place the name of the designer here in the thread, that you´ve mailed to me personally and the point is yours...
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Wendax on August 16, 2012, 04:22:27 AM
Quote from: grobmotorix on August 15, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
Place the name of the designer here in the thread, that you´ve mailed to me personally and the point is yours...
Quote from: Wendax on August 15, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
DKW M49 Sportcoupé, a works one-off, reputedly an offspring of the DKW contacts to Pininfarina
Do you mean Pininfarina (see above) or are you thinking about the similarity to the Baur bodies?
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 16, 2012, 04:47:36 AM
Is sleuthing going on in private, via PM, to preclude others from benefiting from what might otherwise be posted publicly?  :scratch:
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Wendax on August 16, 2012, 04:53:44 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 16, 2012, 04:47:36 AM
Is sleuthing going on in private, via PM, to preclude others from benefiting from what might otherwise be posted publicly?  :scratch:
No, I was just sending him a PM about my source which I didn't want to make public. The source wasn't absolutely clear about the M49 being the name of the puzzle car or a similar design by Baur. I pointed that out to grobmotorix. No other facts hidden from the public.
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 16, 2012, 05:16:44 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: LOCKED for WENDAX: grob 2012_06_21 (02)
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2012, 12:33:58 PM
M49 I think is the general chassis name of the standard DKW Limousine.

It shares the same 900ccm two-stroke engine.

What I wanted to hear was the Farina connection.

A certain Mr. Roittner from Austria has raced it some time later.
I´d really like to know more about it...
Title: Re: DKW Farina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: Wendax on April 30, 2017, 03:12:01 AM
Herbert Roittner at the 1957 Semperit-Rallye:
Title: SAC#1411 : Sportwagen by Hubert Brand , 1954, based on a DKW F91
Post by: SACO on July 19, 2020, 04:01:11 AM
What is this car , for 1 point ! :)
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: marmer on July 19, 2020, 10:47:53 PM
Porsche 356-based?
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: SACO on July 20, 2020, 02:19:08 AM
Not Porsche 356-based !
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: marmer on July 20, 2020, 03:25:00 PM
Is it at least German?
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: SACO on July 21, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
Yes German !
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: marmer on July 22, 2020, 02:00:53 PM
Is this something from the Meisterschule für Handwerker?  (MHK). Maybe on Porsche chassis?
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: SACO on July 23, 2020, 05:37:11 AM
Not  Meisterschule für Handwerker !
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: SACO on July 27, 2020, 02:01:59 AM
Experts !
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: fromwien on July 27, 2020, 02:52:21 AM
"Sportwagen Brand", 1954, based on a DKW F91...
Later Mr. Brand sold the car to Austria. To Herbert Roither in Salzburg. Roither raced the car and destroyed it in practice to the 1957 Gaisberg hill climb race
Title: Re: SAC#1411
Post by: SACO on July 27, 2020, 05:13:58 AM
Yes ! Sportwagen by Hubert Brand , 1954, based on a DKW F91 !
Another point for fromwien !
Title: Re: DKW Farina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: Wendax on July 27, 2020, 05:20:33 AM
Merged

So another puzzle piece (Brand) added to the history of this car.
Title: Re: DKW Farina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: Djetset on July 27, 2020, 05:46:46 AM
Now I am totally confused!

So, was this DKW bodied by Stab. Farina, Pininfarina, Baur or Brand, as the solution really isn't clear?! Thanks.
Title: Re: DKW Farina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: grobmotorix on July 27, 2020, 06:19:47 AM
Brand/make: DKW 900ccm chassis

Design: Pininfarina

Bodywork: presumably Pininfarina, maybe Baur

Drivers: Roittner + Brand

Title: Re: DKW Pininfarina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2020, 06:54:37 AM
Front view

Title: Re: DKW Pininfarina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: fromwien on July 27, 2020, 07:12:35 AM
Two more (brilliant) pictures of the Roittner-car (not, Roithner, as I wrote before) at the first "Semperit-Rallye" 1957.
Title: Re: DKW Pininfarina 900ccm Sportcoupé (M49)
Post by: Djetset on July 27, 2020, 08:01:16 AM
Thank you for the clarification.