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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2020 => Topic started by: Fёdor on July 18, 2020, 04:03:15 AM

Title: FVK_13 Rapid 1900
Post by: Fёdor on July 18, 2020, 04:03:15 AM
Identify this car for a point.
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Post by: Fёdor on August 01, 2020, 01:53:13 AM
Experts?
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Post by: Fёdor on September 06, 2020, 02:31:08 AM
Pros?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 15, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Masters ?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 15, 2020, 03:09:26 PM
French?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 15, 2020, 03:22:22 PM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 15, 2020, 03:38:12 PM
European?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 15, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
Yes.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 15, 2020, 03:55:50 PM
Germany?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 15, 2020, 11:36:35 PM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 16, 2020, 12:16:11 AM
Mediterranean?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 16, 2020, 12:17:47 PM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 16, 2020, 12:42:25 PM
Russia?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 16, 2020, 01:01:24 PM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 16, 2020, 01:03:10 PM
Austro-Hungarian?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 16, 2020, 01:04:22 PM
Yes
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Post by: Oguerrerob on October 17, 2020, 01:53:56 AM
Wyner?
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Post by: Fёdor on October 17, 2020, 02:04:40 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 02:39:44 AM
Laurin & Klement?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 05:34:41 AM
No. From what is now Austria
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Post by: Wendax on November 15, 2020, 07:05:32 AM
Braun?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 07:55:44 AM
No
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Post by: fromwien on November 15, 2020, 08:12:46 AM
Österreichische Elektromobilwerke Wien?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 11:37:55 AM
No, more obscure
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 11:49:58 AM
Built before 1900?
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Post by: fromwien on November 15, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
Leesdorfer Automobilwerke?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 11:49:58 AM
Built before 1900?
Advertising from a 1900 magazine
Quote from: fromwien on November 15, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
Leesdorfer Automobilwerke?
No
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Post by: Wendax on November 15, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
Kainz?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 03:06:28 PM
Bock & Hollender ?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 03:08:25 PM
Quote from: Wendax on November 15, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
Kainz?
No
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 03:06:28 PM
Bock & Hollender ?
No
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Post by: Wendax on November 15, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
Graziosa?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
Neuhaus & Pauer?
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Post by: fromwien on November 15, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
Bohrer, Klagenfurt?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 15, 2020, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: Wendax on November 15, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
Graziosa?
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 15, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
Neuhaus & Pauer?
Quote from: fromwien on November 15, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
Bohrer, Klagenfurt?
Unfortunately no
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:11:48 AM
Braun?
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Post by: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 03:32:22 AM
Aesculap?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 16, 2020, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:11:48 AM
Braun?
No
Quote from: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 03:32:22 AM
Aesculap?
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 11:28:07 AM
Aurore?
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Post by: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 11:43:57 AM
Theyer & Rothmund
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Post by: Fёdor on November 16, 2020, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 11:28:07 AM
Aurore?
No
Quote from: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 11:43:57 AM
Theyer & Rothmund
No.
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Post by: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
Thein & Goldberger?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:14:22 PM
Wiener Automobil-Wagen?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 16, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
Thein & Goldberger?
No
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:14:22 PM
Wiener Automobil-Wagen?
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:42:45 PM
Bory?
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Post by: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 12:57:38 PM
Weiser?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 16, 2020, 02:54:56 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 12:42:45 PM
Bory?
No
Quote from: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 12:57:38 PM
Weiser?
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
Spitz?
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Post by: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
Rösler & Jauernig
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Post by: Fёdor on November 16, 2020, 11:24:04 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 16, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
Spitz?
No
Quote from: fromwien on November 16, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
Rösler & Jauernig
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 17, 2020, 01:47:59 AM
Kainz?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 17, 2020, 11:41:43 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on November 17, 2020, 01:47:59 AM
Kainz?
No, it was already. All of the above manufacturers appear on the official lists. But that is not there. I found this advertisement in the Austrian press on a well-known website. It is a pity that local historians are not interested.
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Post by: fromwien on November 17, 2020, 12:59:22 PM
May be I am not an historian in your eyes, but I am Austrian and interested (...as you may have seen within my replies): Is it "Albl" from Graz?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 17, 2020, 03:00:09 PM
No, the company is not from Graz
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Post by: fromwien on November 17, 2020, 04:36:53 PM
From Vienna?
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Post by: fromwien on November 18, 2020, 08:18:53 AM
Brejcha Voiturette "Excelsior"? Presented May/June 1900 at the first "Wiener Automobilausstellung"
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Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: fromwien on November 17, 2020, 04:36:53 PM
From Vienna?
Yes.
Quote from: fromwien on November 18, 2020, 08:18:53 AM
Brejcha Voiturette "Excelsior"? Presented May/June 1900 at the first "Wiener Automobilausstellung"
Unfortunately no.
But to speed up the identification process, I will say that the name is the same as that of the famous sports club.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 18, 2020, 11:12:44 AM
Rapid?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:40:21 AM
I beg your pardon fromwien, but Oguerrerob guessed too quickly. Yes, it's Rapid
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Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:42:21 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:40:21 AM
I beg your pardon fromwien, but Oguerrerob guessed too quickly. Yes, it's Rapid
Title: Re: FVK_13 Rapid 1900
Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:42:55 AM
.......
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Post by: fromwien on November 18, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
Never mind, I didn't know about 'Rapid' company.... Learned a lot...
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Post by: Oguerrerob on November 18, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 11:40:21 AM
I beg your pardon fromwien, but Oguerrerob guessed too quickly. Yes, it's Rapid

It's the only "Famous Sports Club" that Google showed!

Thanks for the hint!
Title: Re: FVK_13 Rapid 1900
Post by: Wendax on November 18, 2020, 12:58:21 PM
I'm sorry to disappoint you all a bit. This is only a toy, not a real car!
Heinrich Kertész was a novelty dealer, see some examples below.
The ad says that the Rapid is steerable, and self-moving in circles, very entertaining for young and old. Its price was 1.25 Gulden the piece, 3.30 Gulden for three of them. One Gulden was two Kronen, for which you could buy the horse blanket and get some small change back  :)
Don't worry, that was an amusing puzzle.
Title: Re: FVK_13 Rapid 1900
Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 01:39:29 PM
Very sorry. Thought one more to the list of Austrian manufacturers. I hope this is not a toy, what is known about it?
Title: Re: FVK_13 Rapid 1900
Post by: Wendax on November 18, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
That seems to be the Helios from Laiblach.
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Post by: Fёdor on November 18, 2020, 02:29:24 PM
Thank you very much, probably it is.
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Post by: fromwien on November 18, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
Now I can lean back and relax again. Have looked through all the books available to me and couldn't find any company, called 'Rapid', that manufactured motor vehicles in Austria...
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