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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2020 => Topic started by: gte4289 on December 17, 2019, 01:09:17 AM

Title: Solved: GTE 244 - Bugatti Brescia by Rafael Lopez de Heredia of Viña Tondonia
Post by: gte4289 on December 17, 2019, 01:09:17 AM
Please identify this vehicle for a point.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on December 24, 2019, 05:53:00 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: hermanoto on December 25, 2019, 01:37:54 AM
Voisin?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on December 25, 2019, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: hermanoto on December 25, 2019, 01:37:54 AM
Voisin?
Not Voisin
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: FrontMan on December 28, 2019, 06:32:12 PM
....by a disciple of Monsieur Leyat? :huh:
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on December 28, 2019, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: FrontMan on December 28, 2019, 06:32:12 PM
....by a disciple of Monsieur Leyat? :huh:
No connection that I am aware of.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 01, 2020, 04:00:11 PM
Pros?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 01, 2020, 04:47:33 PM
French?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 01, 2020, 04:54:10 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 01, 2020, 04:47:33 PM
French?
French chassis with non-French coachwork
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Fёdor on January 02, 2020, 06:55:03 AM
chassis was produced from 1910 to 1919
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 02, 2020, 07:09:59 AM
Belgian coachwork?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 07:57:55 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 02, 2020, 06:55:03 AM
chassis was produced from 1910 to 1919
I will have to check my notes, but I believe this chassis was produced after 1919.

Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 02, 2020, 07:09:59 AM
Belgian coachwork?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 07:57:55 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 02, 2020, 06:55:03 AM
chassis was produced from 1910 to 1919
I will have to check my notes, but I believe this chassis was produced after 1919.
The donor chassis was built sometime between 1920 and 1925.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 02, 2020, 02:50:47 PM
The coachbuild between 1930-35?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 02, 2020, 02:50:47 PM
The coachbuild between 1930-35?
I don't have an exact date, but at least one source seems to imply the coachwork was performed on a fresh chassis (so 1920-25?)
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 01:52:19 AM
German coachwork?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 03:26:57 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 01:52:19 AM
German coachwork?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 03:33:09 AM
European?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 05:27:52 AM
Coachbuilder from a Mediterranean country ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 05:35:37 AM
chassis of a famous manufacturer?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 06:15:45 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 03:33:09 AM
European?
Yes

Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 05:27:52 AM
Coachbuilder from a Mediterranean country ?
Yes

Quote from: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 05:35:37 AM
chassis of a famous manufacturer?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 06:40:07 AM
Italian coachbuilder ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 06:55:48 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 06:40:07 AM
Italian coachbuilder ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 07:00:59 AM
Spanish coachbuilder ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 07:05:36 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 07:00:59 AM
Spanish coachbuilder ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
Molist?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 07:47:36 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 04, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
Molist?
No, far more obscure. An individual who (to my knowledge) bodied a few cars.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 07:55:02 AM
Peugeot chassis
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 07:55:02 AM
Peugeot chassis
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: hermanoto on January 04, 2020, 09:37:38 AM
Carroceria Vert, Gerona?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 09:39:55 AM
Citroen chassis
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 11:50:07 AM
Quote from: hermanoto on January 04, 2020, 09:37:38 AM
Carroceria Vert, Gerona?
No

Quote from: Fёdor on January 04, 2020, 09:39:55 AM
Citroen chassis
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
Was the chassis manufacturer still active after WWII ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
Was the chassis manufacturer still active after WWII ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Elizalde?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Elizalde?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 01:35:47 PM
Renault chassis ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 01:35:47 PM
Renault chassis ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 02:31:26 PM
Bugatti chassis ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 02:31:26 PM
Bugatti chassis ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 05:27:36 PM
Type 30 ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 05:27:36 PM
Type 30 ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
Type 22 ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
Type 22 ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 10:20:01 PM
Type 23 ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 05, 2020, 01:57:24 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2020, 10:20:01 PM
Type 23 ?
No

Quote from: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 02, 2020, 07:57:55 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 02, 2020, 06:55:03 AM
chassis was produced from 1910 to 1919
I will have to check my notes, but I believe this chassis was produced after 1919.
The donor chassis was built sometime between 1920 and 1925.
After further review, I believe we can narrow this down to "circa 1921."
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: oko94 on January 05, 2020, 02:21:00 AM
Type 28 ?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 05, 2020, 02:22:37 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 05, 2020, 02:21:00 AM
Type 28 ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Wendax on January 05, 2020, 02:28:22 AM
Type 13?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 05, 2020, 02:29:51 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 05, 2020, 02:28:22 AM
Type 13?
Yes. 48-hour lock for you to identify the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 07, 2020, 02:53:59 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 05, 2020, 02:29:51 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 05, 2020, 02:28:22 AM
Type 13?
Yes. 48-hour lock for you to identify the coachbuilder.
Unlocked and open to all
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 02:59:36 AM
Capella?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 07, 2020, 03:14:41 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 02:59:36 AM
Capella?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 10:02:07 AM
Is this puzzle car picture came from an Spanish (or in spanish) site?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 07, 2020, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 10:02:07 AM
Is this puzzle car picture came from an Spanish (or in spanish) site?
I originally encountered the image on Facebook, with no description or mention of a coachbuilder. There were markings on the car, however (which I have digitally removed). These markings allowed me to locate multiple Spanish websites where the car was described in more detail. I also have an image of the car as viewed from the front.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 11:49:44 AM
Could it be called "armoured" car?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 07, 2020, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2020, 11:49:44 AM
Could it be called "armoured" car?
It has the appearance of an armored vehicle, but none of the sources I found describe it as such.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 12:22:09 PM
Is it from Barcelona?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 08, 2020, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 12:22:09 PM
Is it from Barcelona?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 02:52:09 PM
Madrid?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 08, 2020, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 02:52:09 PM
Madrid?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
Basque Country?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 08, 2020, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 08, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
Basque Country?
No, but very close by
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 12:21:08 AM
Zaragoza, Aragon?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 01:44:17 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 12:21:08 AM
Zaragoza, Aragon?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 01:54:59 AM
Provincia de Castilla La Mancha?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 02:00:10 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 01:54:59 AM
Provincia de Castilla La Mancha?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 02:06:57 AM
Asturias?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 08:00:40 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 02:06:57 AM
Asturias?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 08:04:51 AM
You were closest with Zaragoza, but even that is over 200 km away and in the wrong province.
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 09:04:33 AM
Navarra?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 09:04:33 AM
Navarra?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Alava?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Alava?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:05:20 AM
La Rioja?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:05:20 AM
La Rioja?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:07:49 AM
Logroño?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 11:11:20 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:07:49 AM
Logroño?
No. Head northwest
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
El Cortijo?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
El Cortijo?
Farther
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:33:36 AM
Haro?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 09, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 09, 2020, 11:33:36 AM
Haro?
Yes!
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
did you find the ID in a Spanish blog?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
did you find the ID in a Spanish blog?
No, not a blog
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 02:37:16 PM
digital version of a Spanish classic car magazine?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 02:37:16 PM
digital version of a Spanish classic car magazine?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
was it from a digital picture library?
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
was it from a digital picture library?
No
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 26, 2020, 04:15:13 AM
Don Rafael López de Heredia y Aransaez de la Viña Tondonia, Haro, La Rioja, Spain
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: gte4289 on January 26, 2020, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on January 26, 2020, 04:15:13 AM
Don Rafael López de Heredia y Aransaez de la Viña Tondonia, Haro, La Rioja, Spain
A point for you!
Title: Re: GTE 244
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 26, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 244 - Bugatti Brescia by Rafael Lopez de Heredia of Viña Tondonia
Post by: gte4289 on January 26, 2020, 02:21:33 PM
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