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Title: Solved: GTE 251 - Ideal Japanese car according to Chenard-Walcker agent Maurice Houdaille
Post by: gte4289 on December 27, 2019, 10:55:45 AM
Here's something a bit different. This fictional vehicle appeared in ads by a well-known agent/distributor to promote a specific brand of automobiles. Identify the promoted brand and its agent/distributor for a point.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 03, 2020, 04:32:57 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: D-type on January 03, 2020, 05:34:37 PM
A Japanese brand?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 03, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 03, 2020, 05:34:37 PM
A Japanese brand?
No. In fact, the puzzle image is poking fun at the Japanese and their taste in cars.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: D-type on January 04, 2020, 08:37:04 AM
French?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 04, 2020, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 04, 2020, 08:37:04 AM
French?
Yes!
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: D-type on January 05, 2020, 05:36:50 AM
Peugeot. 
Promoted in Kenya by Marshalls
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 05, 2020, 07:41:04 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2020, 05:36:50 AM
Peugeot. 
Promoted in Kenya by Marshalls
No and no
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: D-type on January 06, 2020, 07:26:41 AM
Citroen and Citroen (UK) ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 06, 2020, 08:48:46 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2020, 07:26:41 AM
Citroen and Citroen (UK) ?
No and no
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: D-type on January 06, 2020, 05:19:30 PM
It's got to be Renault then?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 06, 2020, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2020, 05:19:30 PM
It's got to be Renault then?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 10, 2020, 03:37:38 PM
Up to the Pros
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 10, 2020, 11:48:39 PM
Simca ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 10, 2020, 11:48:39 PM
Simca ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:44:04 AM
Were these ads published between 1960 and 1980 ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:54:14 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:44:04 AM
Were these ads published between 1960 and 1980 ?
Much earlier
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:14:50 AM
Before WWII ?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 01:23:04 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:14:50 AM
Before WWII ?
Yes
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Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:48:59 AM
Between 1920 and 1930 ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 04:34:15 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:48:59 AM
Between 1920 and 1930 ?
Earlier
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Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 04:56:55 AM
Between 1910 and 1920 ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 05:19:45 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 04:56:55 AM
Between 1910 and 1920 ?
I have forgotten the exact year, but I believe it was around 1908.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 06:13:18 AM
Was the car manufacturer still active after WWI ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 06:13:18 AM
Was the car manufacturer still active after WWI ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 09:32:06 AM
Delaunay-Belleville?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 09:32:06 AM
Delaunay-Belleville?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 10:35:26 AM
Manufacturer of luxury cars ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 10:35:26 AM
Manufacturer of luxury cars ?
The company manufactured of a variety of vehicles, including some models which may have been considered luxury cars.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:00:43 PM
Mors?
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Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:00:43 PM
Mors?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
Was the manufacturer still active after 1930 ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
Was the manufacturer still active after 1930 ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
Rolland-Pilain?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:39:46 PM
Panhard & Levassor ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
Rolland-Pilain?
No

Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:39:46 PM
Panhard & Levassor ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:40:59 PM
Corre/La Licorne?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
Hotchkiss ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:40:59 PM
Corre/La Licorne?
No

Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
Hotchkiss ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
Was the manufacturer still active after WWII ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
Was the manufacturer still active after WWII ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
Delage?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
Delage?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 01:08:18 PM
Delahaye?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:42:52 PM
Salmson ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 02:35:31 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 01:08:18 PM
Delahaye?
No

Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 01:42:52 PM
Salmson ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Talbot ?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: oko94 on January 11, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Talbot ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:33:20 PM
Chenard-Walcker?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:33:20 PM
Chenard-Walcker?
Yes. Locked for you to identify the agent/distributor responsible for the ad.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
one of the Benelux countries?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 11, 2020, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 11, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
one of the Benelux countries?
No.

Also, I am not sure 'agent/distributor' is the most accurate term I could have used, so let's substitute the term 'exclusive agent' instead.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 02:48:46 AM
was it in Europe?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 12, 2020, 03:23:44 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 02:48:46 AM
was it in Europe?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 04:03:46 AM
France?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 12, 2020, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 04:03:46 AM
France?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 07:19:03 AM
was it in one of the cities?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 12, 2020, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 07:19:03 AM
was it in one of the cities?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 02:15:01 PM
Bordeaux?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 12, 2020, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 02:15:01 PM
Bordeaux?
No
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 03:27:19 PM
Paris?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 12, 2020, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 12, 2020, 03:27:19 PM
Paris?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 14, 2020, 05:09:15 AM
Thread to unlock today at 10:00 pm CET (9:00 pm GMT, 1:00 pm PST)
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 14, 2020, 08:02:55 PM
Unlocked
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 14, 2020, 11:22:55 PM
as I am travelling this week, until Sunday I am not able to devote as much time to AP. If the puzzle is still around tomorrow, I can work on it a bit
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: Fёdor on January 18, 2020, 03:03:29 AM
Company Name A to M
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Post by: gte4289 on January 18, 2020, 06:13:20 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 18, 2020, 03:03:29 AM
Company Name A to M
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: Fёdor on January 18, 2020, 06:27:53 AM
Name letter D
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 18, 2020, 06:57:35 AM
Quote from: Fёdor on January 18, 2020, 06:27:53 AM
Name letter D
I am looking for the name of an individual and neither his first nor last name begin with the letter D.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 19, 2020, 12:35:57 PM
so if this by a Paris agent, I assume it was published in a French newspaper, right?
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2020, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 19, 2020, 12:35:57 PM
so if this by a Paris agent, I assume it was published in a French newspaper, right?
I believe so
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 28, 2020, 08:23:29 PM
To reiterate, I am looking for the name of an individual who is well-known (in the automotive community) and who was the exclusive agent for Chenard-Walcker in Paris circa 1908.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: pnegyesi on January 28, 2020, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 28, 2020, 08:23:29 PM
To reiterate, I am looking for the name of an individual who is well-known (in the automotive community) and who was the exclusive agent for Chenard-Walcker in Paris circa 1908.

I understand that, but it is not that easy as CW had its own showroom in Paris around that time. And in the ads they did not mention any agents.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on January 29, 2020, 01:47:40 AM
Perhaps an expanded view of the ad will help:
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: oko94 on February 06, 2020, 06:58:37 AM
In 1906 Maurice Houdaille was Chenard & Walcker's exclusive agent in Paris.
Title: Re: GTE 251
Post by: gte4289 on February 06, 2020, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: oko94 on February 06, 2020, 06:58:37 AM
In 1906 Maurice Houdaille was Chenard & Walcker's exclusive agent in Paris.
Correct!
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 251 - Ideal Japanese car according to Chenard-Walcker agent Maurice Houdaille
Post by: oko94 on February 06, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Thanks for my 1130th point !

I couldn't find the puzzle image so I had to dig deep into Chenard & Walcker history.