Please identify this car for a point.
MG TF? I am not convinced, but want to try.
It is a one off or a brand sold car?
Experts?
Based on a Vauxhall?
Let's go back a step. Are the underpinnings British?
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2020, 07:36:26 AM
Let's go back a step. Are the underpinnings British?
Yes
The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2020, 08:32:05 AM
The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
It was built in Britain.
Based on a Rootes Group brand?
It appears to pre-date the formation of BMC. Is it a Nuffield Group brand?
Based upon a Crosley?
Is it based on a Ford?
Who's left? Austin?
A MAJOR CORRECTION:Quote from: gte4289 on January 07, 2020, 11:25:28 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2020, 08:32:05 AM
The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
It was built in Britain.
My apologies! I mixed up different puzzle cars. This car was NOT built in Britain and (to my current knowledge) contains no British components other than those mentioned below:
Quote from: gte4289 on January 08, 2020, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 08, 2020, 04:49:34 PM
Is it based on a Ford?
No
I've decided to add to this response as well. While not based on a Ford, the car likely contained some British Ford parts when new, and was then modified with additional British Ford component(s) at a later date.
>:(
Is it from the southern hemisphere?
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2020, 06:56:19 PM
>:(
Is it from the southern hemisphere?
Oooh, 'angry' face.
(sorry)Yes it is.
:scratch: from New Zealand? (On the basis that it rains there)
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2020, 05:21:27 AM
:scratch: from New Zealand? (On the basis that it rains there)
No
Across the water to Australia?
Up to the Pros
Built in the fifties ?
Built between 1950 and 1955 ?
1954 ?
Based on a Triumph ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 15, 2020, 12:05:51 PM
Based on a Triumph ?
As far as I am aware, this car was built without the use of any major components of British origin. That said, some of the internal transmission parts may have been Ford-sourced. I also believe the original motor may have been swapped out for a Ford unit at some later point.
Based on an Australian Ford ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 15, 2020, 01:29:30 PM
Based on an Australian Ford ?
No Ford components other than noted above.
(Also see that I edited my response to your previous question.)
Apart from the Ford components, is the puzzle car based on a European car ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 15, 2020, 06:09:43 PM
Apart from the Ford components, is the puzzle car based on a European car ?
Let's make this simple: as I understand it, the puzzle car was not based on any existing vehicle.
Do you now where the original engine was sourced from ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 15, 2020, 06:36:45 PM
Do you now where the original engine was sourced from ?
It wasn't. None of the major components were sourced from existing vehicles (though some of their internal parts may have been).
Is it a Bassin ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 15, 2020, 06:56:52 PM
Is it a Bassin ?
No, but that would be a great puzzle car as well
Repco ?
Raymond ?
Reville ?
Is the builder known for other cars ?
Thomson ?
Quote from: oko94 on January 16, 2020, 07:13:04 AM
Thomson ?
Yes!
Locked for you to more specifically identify this Thomson creation.
1949-1954 Wiles Thomson
You have the correct car so the point is yours! I'll post more details later.
Working with machinist Harold Clisby, Jack Thomson constructed the first 'Thomson' prototype automobile in 1938. He designed and built his own engine, transmission, differential, braking system and uni-body chassis. Thomson used this prototype to secure investment from the Wiles brothers, with whom he then produced three Wiles Thomson prototypes under the company Wiles Manufacturing Company Ltd. The Wiles brothers pulled out of the venture in 1949. (Two of these earlier prototypes have been featured on AP.)
Thomson formed his own company, Small Cars Ltd, in 1950 and began work on what would be his fifth and final prototype automobile. Jack Thomson died in 1952, leaving the unfinished prototype to be completed by his son-in-law, Doug Giles. The puzzle car is that final prototype. It is not a 'Wiles Thomson', but the one and only 'Thomson' prototype automobile produced by Small Cars Ltd.
[Based on the image you've posted, it's possible Giles stuffed in the Ford 10 motor instead of the intended Thomson 2-cylinder and that he didn't complete the project until 1954. It's wrong to label the car a 'Wiles Thomson', however.]
The completed prototype and Thomson 2-cylinder motor: