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Title: Solved: GTE 296 - 1977 Belos Gravely 817
Post by: gte4289 on February 27, 2020, 03:35:45 AM
Identify this vehicle for a point.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 03, 2020, 11:24:52 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 09, 2020, 12:07:31 PM
Pros?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 02:15:20 PM
Open to all
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 02:37:26 PM
Agricultural Tractor?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 02:37:26 PM
Agricultural Tractor?
It is a small tractor, not designed for agricultural use
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 02:52:32 PM
European?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 03:15:54 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 02:52:32 PM
European?
Partially
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
This part is french?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
This part is french?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 04:27:19 PM
By the way, while there were two companies involved (one from Europe and one from another continent), the details of exactly what each company contributed to the final product are unclear to me. I am not sure if the second company constructed the tractor using components from the first company, if the second company modified a completed tractor produced by the first company, if the second company produced the entire tractor under license of the first company, or if there was some other, entirely different arrangement between the two companies which resulted in the production of this tractor. That said, I do know quite a few details about the two companies as well as about the tractor itself.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 04:44:36 PM
Germany?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
Gutbrod involved?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 16, 2020, 04:44:36 PM
Germany?
Quote from: Wendax on March 16, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
Gutbrod involved?
Not Germany/Gutbrod
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 02:31:04 AM
Mediterranean Country?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 17, 2020, 02:38:06 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 02:31:04 AM
Mediterranean Country?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 03:00:35 AM
East Europe?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 17, 2020, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 03:00:35 AM
East Europe?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 03:15:12 AM
Scandinavian?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 17, 2020, 03:44:02 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 03:15:12 AM
Scandinavian?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 10:30:43 AM
Is the other part from Asia?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 17, 2020, 11:31:30 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 10:30:43 AM
Is the other part from Asia?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 12:29:06 PM
USA?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 17, 2020, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 17, 2020, 12:29:06 PM
USA?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Wendax on March 20, 2020, 04:19:16 AM
Is Husqvarna involved?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 20, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: Wendax on March 20, 2020, 04:19:16 AM
Is Husqvarna involved?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 09:25:36 AM
Is the Scandinavian company Swedish ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 09:25:36 AM
Is the Scandinavian company Swedish ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 12:46:08 PM
Volvo ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 12:46:08 PM
Volvo ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 01:25:30 PM
Bolinder-Munktell ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 01:25:30 PM
Bolinder-Munktell ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 01:46:33 PM
Is the Scandinavian company a tractor manufacturer ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 01:46:33 PM
Is the Scandinavian company a tractor manufacturer ?
Small tractors and other equipment
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 05:07:52 PM
Is this Swedish company still active ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2020, 05:07:52 PM
Is this Swedish company still active ?
I am not 100% certain, but I believe the company was purchased by a larger corporation and that the brand name is no longer in use.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on March 16, 2020, 04:27:19 PM
By the way, while there were two companies involved (one from Europe and one from another continent), the details of exactly what each company contributed to the final product are unclear to me. I am not sure if the second company constructed the tractor using components from the first company, if the second company modified a completed tractor produced by the first company, if the second company produced the entire tractor under license of the first company, or if there was some other, entirely different arrangement between the two companies which resulted in the production of this tractor. That said, I do know quite a few details about the two companies as well as about the tractor itself.
I have found an unofficial source which states that the Swedish company purchased non-powered versions of the tractor chassis from the American company and then installed its own engines. I am unsure as to the accuracy of that statement, but the vehicle was marketed as a co-branded product of these two companies.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 22, 2020, 06:20:27 AM
Is the American tractor manufacturer still active ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 22, 2020, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: oko94 on March 22, 2020, 06:20:27 AM
Is the American tractor manufacturer still active ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 22, 2020, 06:15:29 PM
Is the tractor (picture) completed? because it looks like the front part is missing
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 22, 2020, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 22, 2020, 06:15:29 PM
Is the tractor (picture) completed? because it looks like the front part is missing
Other than some minor pieces that have been lost to time and long-term use (such as the windshield wiper), it is complete as shown
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 10:11:08 AM
Based on a Massey-Ferguson tractor ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 10:11:08 AM
Based on a Massey-Ferguson tractor ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
John Deere ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
John Deere ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 12:38:34 PM
New Holland ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
Clark?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 12:38:34 PM
New Holland ?
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
Clark?
Neither
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 01:05:14 PM
Taylor Dunn?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 01:05:14 PM
Taylor Dunn?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
Cushman?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 23, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
Cushman?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 05:16:09 PM
Is the American company specialized in small tractors ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 05:16:09 PM
Is the American company specialized in small tractors ?
No, that is just one of the products this company has produced.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 04:20:36 AM
Yale?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 24, 2020, 04:24:27 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 04:20:36 AM
Yale?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 04:30:25 AM
Harlan?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: oko94 on March 24, 2020, 06:53:45 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 05:16:09 PM
Is the American company specialized in small tractors ?
No, that is just one of the products this company has produced.

Is this company specialized in agricultural machinery ?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 24, 2020, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 04:30:25 AM
Harlan?
No
Quote from: oko94 on March 24, 2020, 06:53:45 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on March 23, 2020, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: oko94 on March 23, 2020, 05:16:09 PM
Is the American company specialized in small tractors ?
No, that is just one of the products this company has produced.

Is this company specialized in agricultural machinery ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 12:53:52 PM
Hyster?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 24, 2020, 01:38:51 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 24, 2020, 12:53:52 PM
Hyster?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2020, 02:07:39 PM
Bolder?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on March 27, 2020, 02:14:47 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2020, 02:07:39 PM
Bolder?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
Kalmar?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 27, 2020, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 27, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
Kalmar?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on April 01, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
Mercury?
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Post by: gte4289 on April 01, 2020, 10:52:20 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on April 01, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
Mercury?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 01:46:13 AM
Toro?
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Post by: gte4289 on May 29, 2020, 02:42:51 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 01:46:13 AM
Toro?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 02:44:33 AM
Atlas?
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Post by: gte4289 on May 29, 2020, 02:45:46 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 02:44:33 AM
Atlas?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 02:48:09 AM
Sundahls from Sweden?
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on May 29, 2020, 02:50:22 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on May 29, 2020, 02:48:09 AM
Sundahls from Sweden?
No
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on May 29, 2020, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on March 21, 2020, 05:35:43 PM
I have found an unofficial source which states that the Swedish company purchased non-powered versions of the tractor chassis from the American company and then installed its own engines. I am unsure as to the accuracy of that statement, but the vehicle was marketed as a co-branded product of these two companies.
If it's any encouragement, the subject of this puzzle is not at all obscure compared to those typically featured on AP. While this type of vehicle may fall outside the domain of knowledge for most automobile enthusiasts, the answer is certainly within reach. In fact, a standard Google search for the 'brand' (the names of the Swedish and American brands together in quotes) produces more than 13,000 results, with the actual puzzle image showing up on the first page of Google Image results.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 20, 2020, 01:46:32 PM
I've found a similar tractor called: Belos Gravely commercial 817. But from Latvia (for sale)

Belos, It's a Swedish tractors and lawn mowers manufacturer. Now Kärcher Belos AB. Moved to Obersontheim, Germany.
Gravely, It's a manufacturer of powered lawn and garden implements, originally from Wisconsin. Now part of AriensCo.
Title: Re: GTE 296
Post by: gte4289 on June 23, 2020, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on June 20, 2020, 01:46:32 PM
I've found a similar tractor called: Belos Gravely commercial 817. But from Latvia (for sale)

Belos, It's a Swedish tractors and lawn mowers manufacturer. Now Kärcher Belos AB. Moved to Obersontheim, Germany.
Gravely, It's a manufacturer of powered lawn and garden implements, originally from Wisconsin. Now part of AriensCo.
It is the Belos Gravely 817, produced by Belos of Sweden circa 1977 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 296 - 1977 Belos Gravely 817
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 24, 2020, 01:58:21 AM
Thanks for the point!