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Title: Solved -PJ644- Fiat-Simca Topolino C by Carrozzeria Berto 2014
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2015, 05:33:20 AM
What is this?
1 point for you!
(I don't know the answer anymore but I suspect it won't take much!)
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Post by: frederick59 on January 02, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Happy new year
Alfa Romeo base?
The stering Wheel seems to have been borrowed from the car on the left :D
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2015, 11:41:22 AM
I took this pic myself in Padova ..last year.
I didn't ask for info because I thought I recognized it.
Once home I did not had the time to look for it and my memory just keep telling me: 'You have it somewhere...'
Unfortunately none of the above would be of any help, and I don't know if it's an Italian etceterini or not  :-\
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2015, 07:34:02 AM
Pros?
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Post by: Quiller on January 27, 2015, 04:31:35 PM
I also took pics at Padova, but there were no badges on the car and no signs to tell you what it is...
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Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2015, 05:30:57 AM
I have found another picture of this car on the web but unfortunately without any information whatsoever...
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Post by: targhediferro on January 28, 2015, 08:16:01 AM
Wheels (Fergat), Steering, and lenght, look like Fiat 500 A based one off.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 17, 2015, 05:43:47 AM
I hope it will be at Padova this year again. I'll try to get more info.
In the meantime, Black Hole!
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Post by: Djetset on November 03, 2015, 04:25:09 AM
I guess this didn't make it back to Padova this year?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 04, 2015, 12:50:09 PM
 :disbelief:
Unfortunately it didn't.
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Post by: Quiller on November 13, 2015, 09:56:35 AM
Somewhere I took a photo of the phone number of this car's owner - will PM you, PJ!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 13, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Great!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 19, 2017, 11:03:32 AM
Here's the car...a little bit older.
I finally found out the builder (probably).
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Post by: Allemano on October 20, 2017, 03:34:49 AM
The year is 1950 and it was recently sold...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 20, 2017, 05:01:56 PM
You won't find the name very easily...the ad is online, but with no info  ;D
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Post by: gte4289 on February 09, 2020, 04:12:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 19, 2017, 11:03:32 AM
I finally found out the builder (probably).
Initials P.O.?
Title: Re: PJ - 644
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 02, 2020, 03:24:25 AM
I missed your question, sorry.
There is a carrozzeria behind it.
Owner's initials are B.G.
There is another car, built by them from a Fiat 508C, quite impressive.
These info are hard to find (and to verify) but I've received some first hand confidences.
Title: Re: PJ - 644
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 21, 2020, 07:55:49 AM
Time to solve it?
I leave good lead in each and every post I write.
Do not want to self promote my FB page, but actually that is the only place where you can find the answer.
It won't be so straightforward, but you have all you need here (and there!).
More clues if needed. ;)
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 21, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
Is the name Beta ...?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 21, 2020, 11:30:13 AM
Not Beta. It was built by a small 'carrozzeria', but not officially. It's been proposed and sold as something else and in these cases the builder's name is kept secret. I found it after a long search and many phone calls. The same carrozzeria made another car, this time based on a 508c and it's quite nice. Featured here before, I don't think with the correct name, but I could be wrong and I could have commented there as well reporting the right name.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 21, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Baglio?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 21, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
Not Baglio.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 22, 2020, 02:19:44 AM
Guadagnin?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 22, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Not Guadagnin. B____O.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 22, 2020, 01:17:06 PM
Boano?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2020, 04:28:40 AM
Not Boano (or such a known name).
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2020, 04:30:26 AM
Additional clue (probably):
they also sell a sort of Jolly Ghia version of a Fiat 500 (the old one).
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 23, 2020, 05:55:49 AM
Is it from North Italy?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2020, 10:12:50 AM
Yes!
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Post by: Wendax on July 23, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
Verdi?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 23, 2020, 11:25:16 AM
Belmondo?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2020, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: Wendax on July 23, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
Verdi?
Not Verdi. Be___o
Quote from: Oguerrerob on July 23, 2020, 11:25:16 AM
Belmondo?
Not Belmondo. Shorter name. Be___o.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 23, 2020, 12:56:07 PM
Bello?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 24, 2020, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on July 23, 2020, 12:56:07 PM
Bello?
Not Bello. 4 letters.
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Post by: oko94 on July 24, 2020, 04:42:45 PM
Beno ?
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Post by: Wendax on July 24, 2020, 05:25:58 PM
Beso?
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Post by: Djetset on July 24, 2020, 09:02:10 PM
Beno?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 24, 2020, 11:58:22 PM
Beio?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 25, 2020, 08:26:23 AM
I'm sorry, I've made a silly mistake...they are 5 letters!
BExxO

:bag:
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Post by: Djetset on July 25, 2020, 08:28:31 AM
Benno?
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Post by: Wendax on July 25, 2020, 08:39:40 AM
Berto?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 25, 2020, 09:16:03 AM
Becco?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2020, 05:35:52 AM
Quote from: Wendax on July 25, 2020, 08:39:40 AM
Berto?

Yes! Carrozzeria Berto it is!
You won't find this info anywhere and I'm in contact with the owner of this car. He knows nothing about it.
I found 2 people knowing the story behind it: a guy who provided the engine and a guy who knows about the building process.
This kind of cars is quite misterious because in Italy it is not 100% possible to register a car like this in the first place: you need documents and papers of a donor car and your car will assume the identity of it, even if you now have a sport and the papers reports a sedan! In addition to that, too many times sellers and co. make up a fictional story about the car (not saying this is the case for this very car...) pretending they found an original barchetta in some barn and restore it. This generated over the years a feeling of hate agains them. I like them all and in my opinion the car itself has no fault in that.
Well done Wendax!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ644- Fiat-Simca Topolino C by Carrozzeria Berto 2014
Post by: Wendax on July 26, 2020, 05:48:28 AM
Thanks for the points