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Title: Solved: PN #1358 -- Volkswagen roadster by Johann Köster, 1953
Post by: SACO on September 05, 2014, 01:25:29 AM
What's this, for 1 point !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 16, 2014, 01:57:11 AM
Experts !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: oko94 on September 19, 2014, 12:29:37 PM
French ?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 19, 2014, 02:09:34 PM
kitcar?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 19, 2014, 02:10:24 PM
Not French !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 19, 2014, 02:11:08 PM
Not a Kitcar !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 19, 2014, 02:35:09 PM
german one-off?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 20, 2014, 06:21:53 AM
Yes !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 20, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
Is  it based on a brutsch?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 20, 2014, 10:36:46 AM
Not on a brutsch !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 20, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
would it be a DKW?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 21, 2014, 09:46:44 AM
Not a DKW !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 21, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
goggomobil?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 22, 2014, 01:46:32 AM
Not a goggomobil !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: oko94 on September 22, 2014, 03:06:53 AM
Based on Porsche 356 ?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 22, 2014, 03:21:21 AM
borgward?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 22, 2014, 02:51:14 PM
Not a Porsche 356 !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 22, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
And not a  borgward !
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: kwgibbs on September 22, 2014, 05:03:46 PM
Gutbrod-based?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2014, 04:32:48 AM
VW based ?
Title: Re: SAC#803
Post by: SACO on September 23, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
Yes a VW eigenbau !
1 point for oko94  :)
Title: Re: SAC#803 : VW eigenbau
Post by: Wendax on September 23, 2014, 01:27:32 PM
Do you have any further details about the year, the builder, the location?
Title: Re: SAC#803 : VW eigenbau
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2014, 05:15:51 AM
This car is featured in Keth Seume's book, but there's only written that ' the lines are reminiscent of he Kubisky roadster'
Title: Re: SAC#803 : VW eigenbau
Post by: SACO on September 24, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
The car from 1954 with an other VW eigenbau :
Title: Re: SAC#803 : VW eigenbau
Post by: Wendax on September 24, 2014, 09:28:19 AM
Thank you!
Title: Solved: PN #1358 -- Volkswagen roadster by Johann Köster, 1953
Post by: pnegyesi on April 09, 2018, 03:29:01 PM
Who built this? Approximately when? Which engine it used? A point is waiting for you!
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 15, 2018, 05:46:21 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: kwgibbs on April 15, 2018, 10:08:29 AM
is it Brazilian?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 16, 2018, 12:46:45 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: tobytwirl on April 16, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
Any Wartburg connection?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 17, 2018, 12:37:35 AM
nothing
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: thorax on April 18, 2018, 08:42:43 AM
from Germany?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 18, 2018, 09:58:17 AM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: thorax on April 18, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
Gutbrod?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 19, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
no, a self-built car
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2018, 03:19:40 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2018, 07:00:17 AM
Another one built by one of the Karosseriebaufachschule Kaiserslautern students?
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 22, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
I don't think so
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: Arunas on April 26, 2018, 05:08:14 AM
~1958 VW-based one-off with Porsche 1300 engine made by Karl Clemens in Bad Niederbreisig, Germany.
Title: Re: PN #1109
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2018, 02:29:15 PM
That's right
Title: Solved: PN #1358 -- Volkswagen roadster by Johann Köster, 1953
Post by: pnegyesi on January 19, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
Plase identify donor (super-easy) and coachbuilder for a point
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on January 26, 2020, 04:51:27 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 06:12:04 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Wendax on February 02, 2020, 07:57:39 AM
It looks like an earlier version of Karl Clemens' eigenbau: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2018-48/pn-1109/
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
not from him, this was built by a coachbuilder
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: oko94 on February 02, 2020, 02:55:13 PM
German coachbuilder ?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
yes, a coachbuilder. It was the subject of an AP puzzle and at the end this car was referenced
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Djetset on February 02, 2020, 03:28:07 PM
Is the coachbuilder the Belgian Carrosserie TTT?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Wendax on February 02, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
Welsch?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 02, 2020, 04:19:26 PM
Karosseriebauschule Kaiserslautern?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 03, 2020, 12:21:44 AM
not from Belgium
not Welsch

Karosseriebauschule Kaiserslautern may have played a part here, because the aforementioned reference at the end of said puzzle says that this was a "Meisterstück". My own source just identified the coachbuilder
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 03, 2020, 12:54:45 AM
Benno Kleinau?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2020, 06:33:00 AM
Spohn?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: targhediferro on February 03, 2020, 09:23:46 AM
Henning Schrogl ?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 03, 2020, 12:15:06 PM
no 3x
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 03, 2020, 12:33:26 PM
Heinrich Feix?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 03, 2020, 02:45:00 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 03, 2020, 03:07:23 PM
Kurt Schröder?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 03, 2020, 03:09:07 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2020, 04:01:29 PM
Hans Wax?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 03, 2020, 04:33:27 PM
Neumann?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 03, 2020, 05:51:04 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
this was built by a coachbuilder
Quote from: oko94 on February 02, 2020, 02:55:13 PM
German coachbuilder ?
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
yes, a coachbuilder.
By the way, should we assume that the "yes" at the beginning of your response was confirmation that the coachbuilder was German?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 04, 2020, 12:36:20 AM
yes, a German coachbuilder.

Not Neumann or Wax
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: Wendax on February 04, 2020, 03:39:47 AM
Schenk?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 05, 2020, 02:21:56 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 05, 2020, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 02, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
yes, a coachbuilder. It was the subject of an AP puzzle and at the end this car was referenced
Was the subject vehicle in that puzzle also VW-based?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 05, 2020, 11:05:49 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 05, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Wickenbrock?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 06, 2020, 01:42:38 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 08, 2020, 11:08:13 PM
Hans Eben?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 09, 2020, 02:06:28 AM
no.
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 09, 2020, 02:15:32 AM
Kurt Brixner?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 09, 2020, 05:00:40 AM
no

To reiterate: this was a coachbuilder workshop, so not just a Kaiserslautern graduate
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 12, 2020, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 09, 2020, 05:00:40 AM
no

To reiterate: this was a coachbuilder workshop, so not just a Kaiserslautern graduate
And just to reconfirm, the shop was located in Germany?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 13, 2020, 05:47:26 AM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 13, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
Has the coachbuilder only been the subject of one AP puzzle before?
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 14, 2020, 03:24:46 AM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: gte4289 on February 18, 2020, 10:43:21 PM
Karosserie Johann Köster
Title: Re: PN #1358
Post by: pnegyesi on February 19, 2020, 05:16:44 AM
and another hit :)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1358 -- Volkswagen roadster by Johann Köster, 1953
Post by: gte4289 on February 19, 2020, 01:29:13 PM
Thanks for the point!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1109 -- Karl Clemens Eigenbau, cca 1958
Post by: Wendax on February 19, 2020, 02:27:05 PM
I am quite sure that this car is the Johann Köster VW (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/pn-1358/) with a modified grill.

Karl Clemens wrote several letters to the editor of auto motor und sport, e.g. one about the Welsch masterpiece (see below), so he probably wasn't the builder of the pictured car.

I think we should merge these puzzles.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1109 -- Karl Clemens Eigenbau, cca 1958
Post by: gte4289 on February 19, 2020, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: Wendax on February 19, 2020, 02:27:05 PM
I am quite sure that this car is the Johann Köster VW (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/pn-1358/) with a modified grill. Karl Clemens ... wasn't the builder of the pictured car.
I agree!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1358 -- Volkswagen roadster by Johann Köster, 1953
Post by: Wendax on April 24, 2025, 01:42:01 PM
Another picture of the Köster-bodied VW. The chassis is said to have been from 1952.