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Title: Solved: Allemano's № 873 - 1985 Menix 3 "Ter-razzo" by Beat Menzi
Post by: Allemano on April 22, 2013, 04:14:55 AM
What's this strange vehicle?

Get a point if you know!

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Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 22, 2013, 07:01:13 AM
Cool!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 22, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
As I reckon it's not that easy to solve I moved it quickly to experts' rank.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 22, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
anything rinspeed about?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 22, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
No Rinspeed connection I'm afraid..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: ropat53 on April 22, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
Citroën
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 22, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
Is this like a beach-car home-built?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 22, 2013, 06:17:58 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 22, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
Is this like a beach-car home-built?
As there's hardly no beach at that place it was built I wouldn't call it a beach car.
But yes, it's a home-built.

Quote from: ropat53 on April 22, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
Citroën
Various Citroen bits were assembled, but also parts from many other different cars.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 22, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
so it,s no doubt European?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 23, 2013, 12:36:17 AM
It is European.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 01:35:26 AM
Is the builder known for other one-off car creations,besides this strange car?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 23, 2013, 01:37:18 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 01:35:26 AM
Is the builder known for other one-off car creations,besides this strange car?
Yes!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 01:43:29 AM
Is the builder well known?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: targhediferro on April 23, 2013, 08:02:42 AM
I've not idea, but perhaps I could help someone else;  doesn't it remind Flaminia Loraymo by R.Loewy?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 09:27:22 AM
since it,s from Europe,would it be france?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
Is it Stanislaw lukaszewicz,that built this?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 24, 2013, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on April 23, 2013, 08:02:42 AM
I've not idea, but perhaps I could help someone else;  doesn't it remind Flaminia Loraymo by R.Loewy?
Not related to Loewy.
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 09:27:22 AM
since it,s from Europe,would it be france?
Not France
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
Is it Stanislaw lukaszewicz,that built this?
Not him.
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 23, 2013, 01:43:29 AM
Is the builder well known?
Besides Autopuzzle anoraks? No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 02:04:44 PM
Is it from Italy?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 24, 2013, 02:05:30 PM
No
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
I do remember Sweden built a few obscure,strange car,s,could this be one of them?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 24, 2013, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
I do remember Sweden built a few obscure,strange car,s,could this be one of them?
It's not a Swedish car.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
England?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 06:37:03 PM
is this car really narrow,or is it the angle?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 25, 2013, 12:50:27 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
England?
No.
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 24, 2013, 06:37:03 PM
is this car really narrow,or is it the angle?
For some reason it's indeed that narrow.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 25, 2013, 12:54:09 AM
does the car have a central driving position?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2013, 12:36:30 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 25, 2013, 12:54:09 AM
does the car have a central driving position?
according to its basic configuration it should.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 26, 2013, 01:55:00 AM
I wonder if its a Czechoslovakian one-off car? they made a lot of one-offs
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 26, 2013, 01:55:00 AM
I wonder if its a Czechoslovakian one-off car? they made a lot of one-offs
They did, but this one is none of them.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 26, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
was it built by anton kunzli?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 28, 2013, 01:53:44 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 26, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
was it built by anton kunzli?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 28, 2013, 02:03:16 AM
slovenia?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 28, 2013, 03:06:34 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 28, 2013, 02:03:16 AM
slovenia?
:shakehead:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 28, 2013, 08:12:06 AM
ok what about Belgium?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 12:08:03 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 28, 2013, 08:12:06 AM
ok what about Belgium?
:shakehead:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 12:46:09 PM
one country I haven,t mentioned is Poland?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 12:46:09 PM
one country I haven,t mentioned is Poland?
You didn't mention a lot of countries. Poland is also wrong I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 12:52:39 PM
your,e right,hungary?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 12:52:39 PM
your,e right,hungary?
No.

In fact you already scratched the right country...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 01:02:02 PM
okay,I,ll say Germany?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 01:02:02 PM
okay,I,ll say Germany?
No
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 01:14:41 PM
Netherlands?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 11:47:36 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on April 29, 2013, 01:14:41 PM
Netherlands?
No..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 29, 2013, 11:54:01 PM
European, but not from

Belgium
Czechoslovakia
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Poland
Slovenia
Sweden
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: ropat53 on April 30, 2013, 12:01:53 AM
How about Spain?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on April 30, 2013, 12:05:22 AM
Belgium
Czechoslovakia
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Poland
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden


Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 30, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
Bulgaria?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: ropat53 on April 30, 2013, 10:37:59 AM
Austria?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on April 30, 2013, 11:40:08 AM
Yugoslavia?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 05:50:45 AM
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Poland
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Yugoslavia
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: nicanary on May 01, 2013, 06:17:55 AM
Denmark ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 06:34:33 AM
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Poland
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Yugoslavia
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Albania?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 08:51:36 AM
Oh my...

Albania
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Poland
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Yugoslavia
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 08:54:48 AM
Romania?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: nicanary on May 01, 2013, 08:59:49 AM
Norway ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 09:01:38 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 08:54:48 AM
Romania?
Not that I'm tired of writing country names, but as mentioned before I already gave a hint where this vehicle comes from...

Not from Romania or Norway either.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 09:04:14 AM
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
England
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Romania
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Yugoslavia
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 09:09:56 AM
I hope I,ve got it this time,Switzerland?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 09:09:56 AM
I hope I,ve got it this time,Switzerland?
Of course!
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 01, 2013, 10:04:38 AM
Is the man that built this strange car ,unknown to most people?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: Allemano on April 24, 2013, 01:15:09 PM
Is the builder well known?
QuoteBesides Autopuzzle anoraks? No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 02, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
was it built with a hotrod type car in mine?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 03, 2013, 12:27:04 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 02, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
was it built with a hotrod type car in mine?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 03, 2013, 03:56:32 AM
was it built for a specific purpose ?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 03, 2013, 01:35:25 PM
hard to answer this question.
It's not built for a certain event or something like that.

And not for a specific task either if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 03, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Is there any cree Ltd sam bits and pieces in this creation,It,ll be interesting to what it,s name is?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 04, 2013, 02:48:21 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on May 03, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Is there any cree Ltd sam bits and pieces in this creation,It,ll be interesting to what it,s name is?
??? Sorry, but I don't understand that question.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 04, 2013, 03:27:00 AM
sorry about that ,Im not the greatest at wording things sometimes,I mean that the front of this car sort of resembles the 3-wheeled car (Sam) by the Cree Ltd Co.?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 04, 2013, 04:20:35 AM
I'm not aware of any other related car project. The builder did it on his own ideas.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 04, 2013, 09:54:33 AM
I found out one thing for sure,it,s very difficult to obtain information on car,s like this,I looked everywhere I could think of,but no luck?I,ll keep trying.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 04, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
This one isn't that easy to find I've to admit.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 05, 2013, 01:28:08 AM
Im very curious about this odd ball,I hope it doesn,t end up in the black hole.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 05, 2013, 02:32:22 AM
I guess it won't enter the black hole. I'm sure some Pro is already waiting for this.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 05, 2013, 02:41:07 AM
well,they are a lot smarter than I am.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: kwgibbs on May 07, 2013, 01:03:34 PM
I hope the pro,s solve it,Im curious.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 07, 2013, 01:08:17 PM
Just a few days..
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 12, 2013, 08:07:34 AM
Professionals, here you go!
Title: Re: Allemano's ? 873
Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
This is the Swiss Ter-Rezzo, based on a Citroen 2CV.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 12, 2013, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: Djetset on May 12, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
This is the Swiss Ter-Rezzo, based on a Citroen 2CV.
Not exactly, but I lock this for you to correct the typo. Also I definetly need the builder's name and the other name under this car is known.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Wendax on May 12, 2013, 09:14:41 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2013, 08:46:18 AM
Oophs, I thought I'd already corrected this as realised my typo after I'd pressed send on my Blackberry first time around! It should of course been Ter-Razzo with an 'a'.  
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 13, 2013, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: Djetset on May 13, 2013, 08:46:18 AM
Oophs, I thought I'd already corrected this as realised my typo after I'd pressed send on my Blackberry first time around! It should of course been Ter-Razzo with an 'a'.  
Take a look at reply #78. (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/fluestern.gif) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/pan1968/media/Gifs/fluestern.gif.html)  There you find what it needs to get a point for this puzzle.

One more try before I unlock it again.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2013, 02:55:53 PM
Ouch!  Your original question was "What's this strange vehicle?" which I think I've answered.  However, I think it was built by a Mr B (Berngt?) Meinz, and also used some Alfasud parts, but I don't know what it's other name was (you didn't originally ask) so I guess you will have to unlock it for me and award the point to someone else!  :(
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 13, 2013, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: Djetset on May 13, 2013, 02:55:53 PM
Ouch!  Your original question was "What's this strange vehicle?" which I think I've answered.  However, I think it was built by a Mr B (Berngt?) Meinz, and also used some Alfasud parts, but I don't know what it's other name was (you didn't originally ask) so I guess you will have to unlock it for me and award the point to someone else!  :(

You know this is Pro level and there's sometimes a little more work to do.

On the other hand it wouldn't be fair to reject the point for you...
Apparently you found the name of the builder.. Eliminate what you have misspelled and after that you should easily be able to find the other name of the car.
I've LOCKED it for you again. ;)
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Djetset on May 14, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
Sorry Allemano, but been a crazy day (trying to locate the 1966 Bertone Porsche 911 Roadster for July's Goodwood Festival of Speed, in case anyone knows where it might be now?) so haven't had chance to look further into this one, so you can unlock it as I suspect Wendax may know the final piece of the puzzle  ;).  Thanks.
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 14, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
Okay. A point is yours anyway, but I'll give an additional point to the quickest puzzler...
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Carnut on May 14, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
Quote from: Djetset on May 14, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
trying to locate the 1966 Bertone Porsche 911 Roadster for July's Goodwood Festival of Speed, in case anyone knows where it might be now

Why don't you email Giorgetto Giugiaro at ItalDesign; he probably knows its whereabouts or at least should be able to find out?
Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Wendax on May 15, 2013, 02:36:56 AM
This is Beat Menzi's Menix 3 Ter-razzo from 1985, based on a Citroen Ami Super chassis with Citroen GSA engine.

Title: Re: Allemano's № 873
Post by: Allemano on May 15, 2013, 03:13:50 AM
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Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 873 - 1985 Menix 3 "Ter-razzo" by Beat Menzi
Post by: Djetset on May 15, 2013, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks for point and extra information Allemano, und Es tut mir leid, mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut! ;)
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 873 - 1985 Menix 3 "Ter-razzo" by Beat Menzi
Post by: Allemano on May 15, 2013, 07:33:06 AM
Sorry, but as you know it's a little time-consuming to translate something printed.
Hope you get it anyway.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 873 - 1985 Menix 3 "Ter-razzo" by Beat Menzi
Post by: Allemano on February 15, 2019, 06:49:57 AM
The car still exists:
Title: SAC#1456 : Menix 3 Ter-Razzo by Beat Menzi, ~1982
Post by: SACO on November 07, 2020, 05:27:45 AM
What is this car , for 1 point !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: SACO on November 18, 2020, 02:37:13 AM
Experts !
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: FrontMan on November 19, 2020, 05:39:34 AM
Citroen 2CV base?
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: SACO on November 20, 2020, 05:17:34 AM
I don't know the basis of this car ! I only know its name !
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: Wendax on November 20, 2020, 07:32:39 AM
A little help from my side: Based on a Citroen, not a 2CV though.  ;)
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: FrontMan on November 20, 2020, 04:43:16 PM
.....always grateful for a leg up!  GS or GSA base, but still can't find the name ;D.
Title: Re: SAC#1456
Post by: SACO on November 21, 2020, 04:46:07 AM
Yes ! a GSA engine !
Locked for FrontMan !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#1456 : Locked
Post by: FrontMan on November 21, 2020, 10:00:16 AM
Kindly unlock, as I've not been able to get further.
Title: Re: SAC#1456 : Locked
Post by: SACO on November 22, 2020, 04:51:29 AM
Sorry but unlock !
Title: Re: SAC#1456 :
Post by: 727 on November 28, 2020, 02:41:10 AM
These things attached to the back of the car... are they airplane-like wings?
Title: Re: SAC#1456 :
Post by: SACO on November 28, 2020, 09:14:00 AM
No , it's the lights !
Title: Re: SAC#1456 :
Post by: 727 on November 28, 2020, 09:53:52 AM
Menix 3 Terrazzo, a Swiss one-off by Beat Menzi, ~1982
The creator himself says this was initially based on a modified 2CV chassis and later on a Citroen Ami Super. Nowadays it has a roof fitted on.

The Menix 3 was built by me as a third self-build around the end of 1982 on a Citroen Ami Super * (without the help of kit parts) * It originally had a modified 2 CV chassis, with the engine of the Citroen GS 1015 ccm. (There were still Americans with Birotor Wankel engines). It is one of a kind. The Menix 1 was built on a NSU Prinz, and Menix 2 extended the life of an Alfasud base by years. After completion, there was a three-month war of nerves for approval in 1985, but that's a separate story. Since the original engine had a few problems, such as built-in "carburetor stove" above the hot oil cooler, plus exhaust gas preheating in continuous use. And since air-cooled engines generally get quite hot, the fuel pump is flanged to the cylinder head as a bonus.



Title: Re: SAC#1456 :
Post by: SACO on November 29, 2020, 04:36:23 AM
Yes ! Menix 3 Ter-Razzo, a Swiss one-off by Beat Menzi, ~1982
But , it's a repost ( Allemano 873 )
1 point for 727 !  :)
And thank you Wendax !
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's № 873 - 1985 Menix 3 "Ter-razzo" by Beat Menzi
Post by: Wendax on November 29, 2020, 04:57:48 AM
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