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Title: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: Wendax on September 04, 2020, 01:28:16 AM
Semi-aerodynamic.

For one point, please respond and identify car and coachbuilder.
Title: Re: Wendax 3309
Post by: Wendax on September 11, 2020, 01:13:43 AM
up
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Post by: fromwien on September 11, 2020, 06:53:26 AM
maybe stupid, but something to do with Mercedes?
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Post by: Wendax on September 11, 2020, 07:38:34 AM
nothing
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Post by: fromwien on September 12, 2020, 12:42:25 PM
The colour signals, that this racer should be of German origin?
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Post by: Wendax on September 12, 2020, 01:02:44 PM
Partially
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Post by: knewit on September 13, 2020, 10:53:37 AM
Amilcar 6C raced by Steinweg and later Willy Briem
Title: Re: Wendax 3309
Post by: Wendax on September 13, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
No
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Post by: knewit on September 15, 2020, 03:56:41 AM
British origin ?
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Post by: Wendax on September 15, 2020, 05:13:56 AM
No
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Post by: knewit on September 15, 2020, 06:00:21 AM
Salmson raced by F. Emminger
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Post by: Wendax on September 15, 2020, 06:36:58 AM
No
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Post by: fromwien on September 15, 2020, 12:03:37 PM
Some connections to NAG?
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Post by: Wendax on September 15, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
No

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Post by: knewit on September 15, 2020, 04:34:13 PM
French origin
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Post by: Wendax on September 15, 2020, 04:41:20 PM
Yes, that is the other part.
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Post by: knewit on September 16, 2020, 04:54:38 AM
German body - French chassis

No Salmson - No Amilcar

B.N.C. ?
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Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2020, 05:39:07 AM
German body on a French chassis, but not BNC.
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Post by: FrontMan on September 16, 2020, 05:56:01 AM
RABAG-Bugatti type 22?
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Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2020, 08:41:17 AM
My source just told me that it was a Bugatti 22, but I can't rule out that it might have been a Rabag-Bugatti.
Title: Re: Wendax 3309
Post by: FrontMan on September 16, 2020, 04:56:52 PM
Apparently this vehicle has survived!  It became known as the "AVUSBUGATTI" after it had been clothed with this body by J.W. Utermohle of Koln.
Title: Re: Wendax 3309
Post by: Wendax on September 17, 2020, 05:32:18 AM
The surviving "Avusbugatti" surely has a different, much simpler bodywork. Maybe it is the same chassis. But you are right that the puzzle car is a Bugatti 22 with coachwork by Utermöhle. The Cologne branch of Utermöhle already went bankrupt in 1913, so this must have been done by the Hildesheim branch of Utermöhle.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: FrontMan on September 17, 2020, 06:41:57 AM
....thanks for the clarification! :)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: knewit on September 18, 2020, 02:19:11 AM
Never heard of that car or seen in action with this special body. Any ideas who drove that in her active times ?
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: Wendax on September 18, 2020, 03:08:15 AM
Unfortunately not. I just came across this picture in the sales ad for the "Avusbugatti" special.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: knewit on September 18, 2020, 04:02:45 AM
Interesting story with a lot of question marks.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 3309 - Bugatti 22 by Utermöhle
Post by: Wendax on October 31, 2020, 11:40:42 AM
The newest edition of Oldtimer Markt magazine has an article about that car.
The car has the chassis #1198 which was initially sold by the Bugatti dealership in Paris on July 16, 1921.
The source for Utermöhle having built the first body is the Nordic Bugatti Register, but there is no proof for it.
The puzzle picture must have been taken in 1928 or later because of the number plate. Except for that picture there is no documented history for the years between 1921 and 1935 when the car appeared in Sweden.
After the Second World War the car was taken apart, the chassis modified to an underslung and the body was scrapped.
The engine appeared later again when it was planned to mate it with a shortened T23 chassis # 1828, but that idea never materialized.
The current owner bought the engine and the 1828 chassis nine years ago. Sonn afterwards he had the chance to buy another chassis which is most probably the original 1198 chassis (the "chassis" numbers on early Bugattis weren't on the chassis, but on the crankcase). The current owner managed to get hold of other parts from car # 1198 like radiator and axles. The current body is a freestyle interpretation built in the Czech Republic.
There is no proof either that # 1198 ever raced on the Avus in Berlin.

Below a picture of the car in Sweden after 1935: